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Please remove the 3.0 point SoTs as a reward.

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Only 400k per point! :thumbup:

Edit: LOL I just opened that gold chest and this is what I found inside.
3.0 Focus 25k (2 of them)
3.0 Tracking 25k
3.0 Forensic Evaluation 25k (2 of them)
3.0 Item Identification 25k (2 of them)
3.0 Camping 25k
3.0 Taste Identification 25k

Yeah they are all worthless skills...but it's still odd.
Tracking is hardly worthless. That one's a bargain.
 

RaDian FlGith

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The main reason I am upset is because I am seeing people take advantage of a system in a way that wasn't intended. In my opinion, the box was added to award the average player for exploring and solving a puzzle. No harm there. But when a group of people start logging dozens or more characters in the room on every single shard and start farming it for the sole purpose of making insane profits with little to no effort is just disgusting.
Keep in mind though that if they didn't put this stuff in to help the average player, the average player would STILL be behind. This does give them a chance to catch up in whatever means they see fit (ie: wait to get the prize themselves, or pay someone else who has logged in on multiple characters to get what they end up needing).

Anyone remember the spring cleaning event? After a while they added a quest which rewarded you a 25,000 point ticket. Well people created dozens of newbies and ran them through getting a 25,000 point ticket with each one. I think if done early enough they were able to delete them after 7 days and do it again. So people who actually were in line with the spirit of the "cleaning" got screwed while the people who took advantage of this quest got rewarded beyond their wildest dreams.
Actually, no one got "screwed" by this. Yeah, the people who were farming the 25,000 point tickets across all of their accounts were able to pull together a lot of points and get things like Sorcerer's Suits (I'll admit, I'm one of them... but then, I pay for a few accounts, so yeah, I should be able to take advantage of paying for those accounts while only really playing 3 of them every once in awhile, I think). Now, I didn't make new characters, I simply used existing ones, but still...

However, the other side of the equation is that if they hadn't put in those 25,000 point tickets, then only the people who had never thrown anything away ever, or those who had hoarded, would have ever seen those items. Which meant that the newer player was at a complete disadvantage.

So yeah, someone ended up with "more" of something, but at least the newer people were able to get something in the first place.

I am just sick of these systems getting taken advantage of.
It's not so much about "taking advantage" than "those who play more will have more." It's always been the case and always will be. Yeah, we all pay the same monthly fee (in varying quantities, mind you), but some of us play 2 hours a week. Those people won't ever be able to compete evenly with those who play 20 hours a week. There's just no way to effectively balance that -- unless you're just playing an FPS. And even then, the person with 20 hours play time will probably be more adept at the FPS than the person with 2 hours play time.

P.S. Pre-AOS shard please :)
No thanks. There's no reason to return UO to a time when it had reached the limits of its mechanical potential for equipment.
 

JC the Builder

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They might need to do some type of SOT wipe. I am seeing vendors just loaded to the brim with 3.0 in all skills. There is just no way multiple people have hundreds of them for sale. Imagine how many more they have stock piled.
 

Theo_GL

Grand Poobah
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UNLEASHED
They might need to do some type of SOT wipe. I am seeing vendors just loaded to the brim with 3.0 in all skills. There is just no way multiple people have hundreds of them for sale. Imagine how many more they have stock piled.
Someone here hinted that there is an exploit to avoid the timer. I haven't really evidenced it happening on GL - but maybe there is truth to that.

I have done the puzzle hall of death on about 8 char for 3 days and have yet to get one SOT. Lots of pillows and crap tho.
 

Ender

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UNLEASHED
I'm half tempted to find this exploit to get imbuing scrolls. I'll just trash everything else, I just don't want to train the skill, lol. <_<
 

Restroom Cowboy

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They might need to do some type of SOT wipe. I am seeing vendors just loaded to the brim with 3.0 in all skills. There is just no way multiple people have hundreds of them for sale. Imagine how many more they have stock piled.
After looking at the vendors around and considering the number of times you can hit this per day, I admit I was mistaken. The only solution to me seems to be making this a weekly instead of a daily...or make the puzzle once per account per day...

...strangers gif really comes to mind lol
 

GalenKnighthawke

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I didn't know there was an exploit....That's quite a shame.

The original poster, however, doesn't seem to be contemplating the exploit, but is rather complaining about the mechanic itself.

I will argue, I hope convincingly, that there's no real issue with the 3.0 SoT scrolls' existence, but of course they should fix an exploit related to them. Like any other powerful item, it depends in part upon its comparative rarity as a means of balance.

-Galen's player

PS: Regarding that 12 million gp Taming SoT? Only 400k a point? Only?? For me, 12m is still a lot of money. You must all be really rich!
 
M

milk

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The OP worries way too much I think. Getting a 3.0 SoT on an actual useful skill is very unlikely in most situations and when it does, it is pretty expensive. The price/skill point will eventually reach an equilibrium where player would finally feel justified to pay x gold per 0.1 skill increase.

Right now, for Taming, which is probably one of THE hottest SoT out there is valuabled between 500k per 0.1 point to 800k per 0.1 skill point. Personally I would only spend this kind of money for my last 3.0 skill to achieve legendary. Even then unless I am desperate for a stable slot I would still save the money for better things. I know there are plenty ancient players who have amassed huge fortunes over the years. But that is not the majority.

Even for taming, I will just train it, it is boring but it isn't that bad really. If you actively train 0.2 skill gain everyday not counting the GGS, then with GGS, you should be able to raise difficulty based skills from Master to Legendary in 3-4 months. If you concentrate on one skill to train it and just be a bit more aggressive that time should be cut down in half.
 
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RavenWinterHawk

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After looking at the vendors around and considering the number of times you can hit this per day, I admit I was mistaken. The only solution to me seems to be making this a weekly instead of a daily...or make the puzzle once per account per day...

...strangers gif really comes to mind lol
BINGO ONCE PER ACCOUNT a day.

end of story.
 

Cyrah

Certifiable
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Stratics Legend
Oh no no no! If I was ever lucky enough to find one for imbueing I would be the happiest whiner in UO history!

It would make up for the creepy things that happen in SA, oh yes it would. Ok almost.

They already changed imbueing, acid spawn and the cloak quest so that those who came after do not get as good a deal as those in the beginning did. Do not do this again. Please!!!!!!!

To those this bothers I say consider this, 2 count them two, monumental UO anniversarys have now gone by almost unnoticed by our current king and his court. Let this bother you please. ( each year they hint and ... )
 
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