This would be a good change and should apply to all the necro forms.
The problem I see with this change would be someone with 80 poison inflicting LP on every hit. That seems like it would be way to strong.
It would all depend on the calculations. If someone has high dex and is already healing every 4 secs, adding even more healing on top of that might become a problem. Although the one balancing factor might be that being in that form makes you move slower than dirt.
As much as I don't want to agree with this (mainly because I was thinking of adding necro to my fencer for this feature), I have to say that it does make sense and adds a purpose to a pretty meaningless skill (does anyone really use spirit speak?).
I vote NO
They already did it with Wraith form, requiring Spirit Speak or else your mana leeching is abysmal. I guess the PVP focus group last year failed to bring this to the attention of the developers. Players are able to slap on a bunch of Necromancy items and cast Vampiric Embrace with only 30 skill. It goes like this:
Yep, you're exactly right. Most players don't have the Mask of Travesty so they go with 35 real skill. But you could have as little as 25 real skill points and still take advantage of the vampric bonuses.
Yeah dude, this is such a wicked pvp template!
Why? It's two different skills, one for weapon skill and one for the actual Necro skill. If someone wants to use both it's the way the game was intended.
Umm ... just no. People should not have to have the poisoning skill for that. That idea just made me lol irl.
No it shouldn't. The whole point of the talisman is to give those abilities regardless of the type of character used. It totally negates the entire point of the talisman to do as your suggesting. Use your head.
Perhaps instead of trying to change everyone else you change your own template.
So is it rediculous that I can solo lady mel on my tamer?
First of all you don't think that 25% of subscribers who play UO only to PVP don't deserve to get their game balanced? Second, there were some PvMers in the focus group also so if they messed up your game then go blame them.
having the poisoning skill to poison seems like a stupid idea to you? i think thats funny because i just soned my poisoning for a skill that poisons alows me to change int forms that help me get away when dismounted and heal me up and gives me better attacks. all that for the same skills i had on poison. all i gave up was 1 lvl of poison. think it through.
Tamers could also solo dread before Greater dragons too...
Crap we REALLY need to nerf tamers too!
They should also "fix" it so tamers cannot use jewerly to bond thier pets, without the "real" taming skill right?
That was your choice.
The life leech of vampric form is worthless to a REAL necromancer. Why? Because one pig iron, almost insta cast of a curse weapon is far more superiour.
Absolutely. Also if you don't have the skill required the pet should become unbonded (after a warning of course). That would help balance those Greater Dragons because not many people have the 106.8 or whatever Animal Taming is needed to bond them.
Yeah, but that one spell is the best Necromancy has to offer. In fact it has the highest minimum casting requirement in the game. You should not be able to cast it with only 25 Necromancy, a mere 25% of the total skill necessary.
I havet tried this but cant u just use the taming skill jewels to say all kill then take them off and use other equip? With the recent changes you only really have to say the command once..
I disagree.
That ONE is the bread and butter of a meleer takes on peerless bosses of choice. Sampire without exploiting the vamp form well die trying to solo peerless, and put in 35 skill points in necro and they have the easy mode turned on... I wonder why.
So tell me why it is that Tamers and Mage hybrids should be able to solo all of these and even more, and meleers shouldn't?That ONE is the bread and butter of a meleer takes on peerless bosses of choice. Sampire without exploiting the vamp form well die trying to solo peerless, and put in 35 skill points in necro and they have the easy mode turned on... I wonder why.
I disagree, Curse Weapon is better than vampire form. Lets do the math here...........That ONE is the bread and butter of a meleer takes on peerless bosses of choice. Sampire without exploiting the vamp form well die trying to solo peerless, and put in 35 skill points in necro and they have the easy mode turned on... I wonder why.
Yes, but if you take off the jewels...you cant command your newly tamed pet and if you try to command it too much when you dont have the correct skill. It will go wild or even unbond.
This is a tough one. As I dont mind people using jewels for skills. Like I said, if you can use the jewels on Sampire and if you keep them on to keep the 99 required Necro....I am all for keeping the Sampire template as long as you still have the skill needed for the spell. I guess you could make stable slots based upon real skill....you wouldnt get an argument from me.
No actually, you dont seem to understand the way this one works. You can bond it with jewels. But if you take the jewels off and start commanding it. It wont obey and it will un-bond sooner or later.
Sorry, yes it does. Like I said for the 4th time. I am all for spell staying the way it is. But I think you need the skill to make use of it.
Both spells need to be tweaked obviously.
Alot of other things should be looked at yes, but at the same time you've got to start with the most unbalanced and overly abused.
I really really like these ideas! They would be excellent changes!
There's nothing wrong with tamers, there are plenty of other templates that can do just as much damage. Maybe you just want every template to do the exact same damage... a tamer is exactly that, you use a pet to fight, there's no fix for that besides removing them from the game and frankly one of the few reasons i began playing is because of the taming skill, I think a nice addon would be giving the necro skill some form of a controllable permenant pet unlike the "pets" from necro spells, why not a undead type thing that can gain skill and be somewhat decent.