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pet discordance

Lex Darion

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Discord your own pet. Then have it fight something at range that it cant discord easily. (dinos in eodon for example)
Or you can do it at slimes in underworld.
 

Draza

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THey have a chance to gain on fails, and every success, so acid slugs/slimes are goid, and use whisper during pet power hour.
 

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My best experience training pet disco is taking the pet to Ilshenar champ spawns, and fighting the low-end spawn. They'll mana dump with disco, then you can just pull back let it get some mana back, and repeat.

Then, if you can, disco the pet at higher levels and do the same.
 

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THey have a chance to gain on fails, and every success, so acid slugs/slimes are goid, and use whisper during pet power hour.
Power hour increases training percentage gains. Whisper increases skill gains.
Once a pet is 5 slot, power hour does nothing but words on your screen
 

Lex Darion

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I've done some tests through my countless hours of training pets.

If you discord the same monster that is already discorded, you wont get gains (or at least very abyssmal).
So only on "failed" and succesful fresh discord attempts will you have a good chance to gain.

The testing was done on a 12h period on a highlevel mob that was discorded already (no gains).
Compared to one that wasnt but too high skill for my discorded pet to succeed against.

Now I'll be doing some testing to compare underworld vs fighting the same monster. But my gut-feeling (non-scientifically based) is that underworld is slower cause it'll be switching targets and sometimes far-away slimes are already discorded and it won't gain vs them. So you're losing discord attempts to useless skillgain attempts.
 

jojo_la

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THey have a chance to gain on fails, and every success, so acid slugs/slimes are goid, and use whisper during pet power hour.
just dump the pet in the middle of the slimes?

Edit: answered my own question. Wish i had asked this before. would have done discordance, trained it up then added armor ignore or pierce. cu keeps dumping on AI instead of disco'ing :/
 
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Lex Darion

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just dump the pet in the middle of the slimes?

Edit: answered my own question. Wish i had asked this before. would have done discordance, trained it up then added armor ignore or pierce. cu keeps dumping on AI instead of disco'ing :/
And that's why the other method is better, fight something at range so your pet isnt meleeing.
 

Draza

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I suggest slimes and slugs because your pet can kill them fairly quickly, they are aggresive and will target your pet, and they have a fast respawn.
 

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I suggest slimes and slugs because your pet can kill them fairly quickly, they are aggresive and will target your pet, and they have a fast respawn.
Also why I suggested the Ilshenar champ spawns. The spawn rate is noticeably greater than Fel, the first round or two die quickly and are replaced, and in addition there's actually the chance of getting stuff for your effort (pinks and minor arties to trash for cleanup points). Plus, it's more actively playing, so you stave off boredom longer and don't have people whining about you hogging the slimes/slugs. Depending on which champ, you might even get resist spells gains and the like, and maybe even solo the boss if your pet is good enough.
 

Pawain

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On the spawn note. Many on LS use the turtle spawn for training pets.
 

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I always hold off on adding armor ignore on a Cu until it's finished training up whatever magic I put on it. That way it only has the magic it's using. But that requires you to finish training your pet before you use it for hunting.
 
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sini00

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I always hold of on adding armor ignore on a Cu until it's finished training up whatever magic I put on it. That way it only has the magic it's using. But that requires you to finish training your pet before you use it for hunting.
Oh I thought someone said you have to add Armor ignore first because if you add magic first, you can't add armor ignore any more? AI then Chiv, not chiv then armor ignore, people say.
 

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Oh I thought someone said you have to add Armor ignore first because if you add magic first, you can't add armor ignore any more? AI then Chiv, not chiv then armor ignore, people say.
They changed Cus a while back. Now you can add the magic first.
 

Lex Darion

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You can add magic first, but then you only get one more selection.
So if you just wanna do disco + AI then you add disco first then AI.

But if you want to do disco + cb + ai, then yeah you got to do AI+CB then discord to avoid having them lockout selections.
 

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You can add magic first, but then you only get one more selection.
So if you just wanna do disco + AI then you add disco first then AI.

But if you want to do disco + cb + ai, then yeah you got to do AI+CB then discord to avoid having them lockout selections.
Disco+CB+AI is redundant. Disco lowers Resists, Conductive Blast lowers Energy Resist, AI ignores Resists (therefore making the previous two debuffs moot). You'd be better off with straight Disco+CB for debuffs (especially if you're a Death Ray Tamer/Mage ©), or Chiv+AI for single target damage.
 

Lex Darion

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Disco+CB+AI is redundant. Disco lowers Resists, Conductive Blast lowers Energy Resist, AI ignores Resists (therefore making the previous two debuffs moot). You'd be better off with straight Disco+CB for debuffs (especially if you're a Death Ray Tamer/Mage ©), or Chiv+AI for single target damage.
CB doesnt always have upkeep even with just disco + cb (seems to have a few seconds cooldown or RNGeesus just ****s on CB), and runs out quick.
AI will work vs bosses with 95% or more where the discord only brings it down a little bit.

You can try a pet like those on paragon balrons and see which kills quicker.

Now yes, you can do a deathray build but that's more active gameplay required on tamer + quite suit-dependant (needs LMC/MR etc and good meditation).
 

Draza

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If you do disco+CB, i would do AP over AI.

You + pet(+ everyone else) doing 10% more damage is more effective. For everyone to benifit, it takes more coridination, but its worth it.
 
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