What do we know - IC - about the demise and dissolutionment of this illustrious organization?
Well, GL's player version was done much, much better anyways. I went to some training with them once or twice. I didn't really need it since I'd been fighting since day one, but I had re-started and some others wanted to go anyways. So I went and it was every bit as good as you had said.Ahh if he is talking about the day the Order Guard was disbanned[system went inactive] then that is another tale entirely....
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I remember them saying the copyright thing at the time. But it was awhile ago, back around the time of Third Dawn. It was in reply to someone raising this very question: What happened to the OSS? And the response was, it didn't go anywhere, we just had to change the name.Every kingdom needs its lead warriors, its Knights, to guard the rulers and defeat enemies of the state on the field of battle. Britannia's Knights were initially known as the Order of the Silver Serpent.
The Order was often found in Ultima Prime, the single-player games upon which UO is based. Known members included Geoffrey and Dupre. The Order derived their name from the Silver Serpent, the symbol of the realm. The Order was traditionally housed, and trained, in Serpent's Hold.
Eventually, for reasons that were never quite clear (though there were hints that it was some kind of copyright issue), the Order's name had to be changed to the Royal Knights. Eventually it was called the Royal Britannian Guard.
On some Shards, the Order is a player Guild that seeks to carry on the tradition.
I refer to the aforementioned Order of the Silver Serpent.Trebr Drab said:Are you referring to Order/Chaos? I don't recall much about how that ended. I don't recall any fiction about it either.
If that be the case I wonder if the OSS could again be referenced. The Developers - at one point - could not refer to Lord British in fiction and instead used 'the King.'GalenKnighthawke said:I remember them saying the copyright thing at the time. But it was awhile ago, back around the time of Third Dawn. It was in reply to someone raising this very question: What happened to the OSS? And the response was, it didn't go anywhere, we just had to change the name.
In fact I would like to hear it. Both OOC and what Lore Denin's IC feelings and opinions are on its disbandment.Lore Denin said:If we want to get into a thread on the Order Guard, its unofficial disbandment and the end of the in-game system I could talk for pages on that topic as it is dear to my heart and remains the driving force in my character's life.
And from that article about the Virtue Guard Founding...I don't recall any official UO references to the Order of the Silver Serpent in game, events or fiction (doesn't mean there weren't any) However the evolution of the Order of the Silver Serpent, to the Royal Knights of Britannia to the modern day Royal Britannian Guard makes sense both fictionally and logically.
However I think it’s important that people don't confuse the Order Guard with the Order of the Silver Serpent. The Order Guard, originally named the Virtue Guard, was created by Lord British to stand for his Virtues and Do NOT exist in prime (for good reason). In UO, The Crest of the Silver Serpent could only be carried by members of the Order Guard until the Age of Shadows (something my character was absolutely appalled).
This is not to say that the Order of the Silver Serpent did not officially exist in UO or does not share the same symbol, only that in UO fiction, the Knighthood Lord British created to represent his Virtues and carry the serpent crest was the Order Guard - hence why the shields are often referred to as Order Shields.
Founding of the Virtue Guard
Some may view the two knighthoods as one and the same with the Order of the Silver Serpent simply being the Order Guard stationed at Serpents Hold and fictionally this makes a great deal of sense, but in game the OSS on GL remained consistent to the Prime Fiction of its founding, rather then the Order Guard fiction of UO. (I.e. they were loyal soldiers of Britannia not aspiring paragons of Virtue nor did they have much concern for the Order/Chaos conflict which revolved around the Philosophic debate of individual rights vs. the greater good, etc).
If we want to get into a thread on the Order Guard, its unofficial disbandment and the end of the in-game system I could talk for pages on that topic as it is dear to my heart and remains the driving force in my character's life.
Lore's Player
This will be a busy week in game as we are finally putting together our move to Origin but when things calm down I will start a new thread on the Virtue/Order Guard from an IC perspective as it evolved over the years.In fact I would like to hear it. Both OOC and what Lore Denin's IC feelings and opinions are on its disbandment.