Official Response Required

[Guest]

The use of the mage spell "teleport" while using a bola is becoming more of a common practice these days. As I see it this is an exploit of game mechanics. The delay of the bola was put in for a reason, and this delay is being bypassed via teleport. Without the thrower using teleport one is able to "out-run" the bola (if they're paying attention and have quick reflexes) but with the use of teleport there's absolutely no way to avoid being dismounted.

Now my question to the devs is: Is this indeed an illegal move? It certainly seems to be to me.

Even if it's not illegal action still needs to be taken to remove it form the game. The ability to dismount any player without that player having a way to counter this action is completely unfair and is one more negative to PvP that the community really doesn't need right now.

 

[Babble]

My best guess you will get for now, is working as intended, but it might be changed when we look at it again.

 

[imported_Cysphruo]

sounds like someone killed you a few times
also sounds like someone else knows what theyre doing, i dont think i could cast tele fast enough and target where the person was heading to bola them in time, kudos to that person.

 

[Guest]

You can do it in a single macro...

 

[Guest]

But the whole point is that bolas were not intended to be unstoppable, and so any player activities to make them so is, by definition, an exploit.

 

[Arcus]

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bolas were not intended to be unstoppable

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Where does it say that anywhere?

 

[Babble]

There are different kind of statuses for exploits.
Bannable
Known and you can call a gm if you like
Known but no fix in sight.
Known but tolerated
Known but ignored
and maybe lots more of those

 

[uk_crafter]

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i dont think i could cast tele fast enough and target where the person was heading to bola them in time,

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You don't need to be able to, or even use a macro when there is a script available that will perform this task with split second accuracy.......

 

[Sergul'zan_SP]

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The use of the mage spell "teleport" while using a bola is becoming more of a common practice these days.


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At least it's something new. Usually you don't hear about dismount unless pet balls and tamers are involved.

I would agree this should be addressed as well.

 

[Guest]

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bolas were not intended to be unstoppable

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Where does it say that anywhere?

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That was the reason that the delay with the bolas was implemented, so that the target would have a chance to avoid them.

 

[imported_dexdash]

lets leave dismount on a melee wepon and get rid o bolas and heavy dismounting

 

[imported_SUNCHICKEN]

lances, hallys, warhammers
at least if these were the only three thatd dismount people would actually use them

 

[Arcus]

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bolas were not intended to be unstoppable

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Where does it say that anywhere?

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That was the reason that the delay with the bolas was implemented, so that the target would have a chance to avoid them.

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chance to avoid &lt;&gt; unstoppable.

Keep trying.

 

[Sergul'zan_SP]

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lets leave dismount on a melee wepon and get rid o bolas and heavy dismounting

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Heavy dismount definitely needs to go. Bolas are fine so long as you can't move in any way during the delay.

Melee weapons I'm indifferent as long as the dismounter has to be dismounted.

 

[Guest]

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bolas were not intended to be unstoppable

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Where does it say that anywhere?

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That was the reason that the delay with the bolas was implemented, so that the target would have a chance to avoid them.

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chance to avoid &lt;&gt; unstoppable.

Keep trying.

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Care to explain your reasoning a little? Prior to this exploit they weren't unstoppable because you had a chance to avoid them. With this exploit you cannot avoid them making them thus making them unstoppable... I'm not sure how that's not clear to you.

We really need an official response to this as, at least on LS, it's dominating pvp now. We cannot wait the 8 or 9 months that we had to wait for them to fix the bokuto crap.

Also, while I think that heavies are a little unfair, they do still have a counter (disarm) and so they aren't really part of this conversation. Cheers.