On Friday I turned orange in the middle of a champ spawn when I started cross-healing a person who happened to be in a VvV guild. I saw the thread about similar occurrences in UHall . I was going to respond there but felt it was turning into a rant, so I moved it here instead.
I do not PvP but since both my houses are in fel (and have strong sentimental value), double resources are available there , and prior to trade quests doing champ spawns were the way to get SoTs above 0.5 (as well as still being the only way to EARN the white skill scrolls) I tend to do a fair amount of my play there. One house is a few screens from the daemon temple, so I often use it for fame and sacrifice. I had a goal of trying to get to 33000 karma . Prior to the trade quests the only time I still gained 'a little karma' was from ancient wyrms, balrons, and succubi in fel (and champ spawns are the best way to find and fight the later).
Yes I am attacked on occasion and sometimes killed, but when that happens I have the option to decide if a count was earned or to just ignore it. When I am turned orange, I usually no longer have that right as most spawn raiders are associated with VvV. Having to kill myself after spawns so I don't have to be paranoid in fel towns because I happen to adventure with PvPers seems to be silly.
Galen doesn't make a statement but I feel the need to say something:While I can't speak for this particular issue, if you look at this post:
http://community.stratics.com/threads/pvp-in-vvv-ruined-by-thieves.323361/#post-2446759
you'll see articulated the reasoning behind the current flagging rules.
Here's a quote: "I'm not sure why a non PvP participating player would even bother with fel content to be honest... But that is a totally separate discussion. There is plenty of non PvP based content in this game... Please don't give the traders quest in fel as an excuse."
The team agreed and thus many otherwise innocent Fel behaviors, such as just being in certain places, flags you in the new system.
I make no statement about if I agree or not.
-Galen's player
I do not PvP but since both my houses are in fel (and have strong sentimental value), double resources are available there , and prior to trade quests doing champ spawns were the way to get SoTs above 0.5 (as well as still being the only way to EARN the white skill scrolls) I tend to do a fair amount of my play there. One house is a few screens from the daemon temple, so I often use it for fame and sacrifice. I had a goal of trying to get to 33000 karma . Prior to the trade quests the only time I still gained 'a little karma' was from ancient wyrms, balrons, and succubi in fel (and champ spawns are the best way to find and fight the later).
Yes I am attacked on occasion and sometimes killed, but when that happens I have the option to decide if a count was earned or to just ignore it. When I am turned orange, I usually no longer have that right as most spawn raiders are associated with VvV. Having to kill myself after spawns so I don't have to be paranoid in fel towns because I happen to adventure with PvPers seems to be silly.