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Tanager , I am solidly convinced that NONE of the Siege citizens thinks you failed. Please do not let the closing of NOOB be a bad experience. You gave NOOB a great run. Life happens and things change, in the end let it be all good!
Nothing but lov,
Baby Doll
I don't disagree with that observation, I do see new names in game but sometimes it's hard to tell between name change tokens and noobs.
I also miss Shalimar, but you did not fail. A season in your Siege life came to an end, is all that happened.
Having helped Shalimar a lot about a decade ago, I know the effort that goes into doing the job. Nobody should ever think of it as anything else - it IS a full time job. There is little "game" about it.
There's marketing, there's stock control, there's business relations, there's the constant analysis of the "market" (which guilds do what), there's the need to be an expert on every aspect of Siege - the list is endless.
Game? No, running any type of NEW guild is NOT a game. It's exhausting, but for those who choose to take up the challenge, even for a while, the exhaution is worth it.
So thank you Tanager, for all you have done. *salutes*
Having helped Shalimar a lot about a decade ago, I know the effort that goes into doing the job. Nobody should ever think of it as anything else - it IS a full time job. There is little "game" about it.
There's marketing, there's stock control, there's business relations, there's the constant analysis of the "market" (which guilds do what), there's the need to be an expert on every aspect of Siege - the list is endless.
Game? No, running any type of NEW guild is NOT a game. It's exhausting, but for those who choose to take up the challenge, even for a while, the exhaution is worth it.
So thank you Tanager, for all you have done. *salutes*
Oh no I didn't ,,,gasp..... all right...,I do see new names on Siege but....I stand corrected. Blind Otto, let's get together sometime, I might let ya teach me braille!
You did a great job! You did not fail!
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We need to encourage someone to restart it!
go ahead and make one then. can't hurt to try and I'm pretty sure you'll get support from lots of people if you do.
I too feel Siege is at a loss without a newbie guild.
Tanager didn't fail anything, she did an awesome thing for our shard for as long as she could.
I too am of the mind though that Siege should culturally always have a newbie guild running.
If anyone does wish to start one I would definitely offer any help I could. I recognize I don't have the experience to run such a guild myself.
This would mean we would need a third for the workers, who then can throw shovels at the other 2....
Think the issue "is/was" not Vice or Virtue... the issue is..... that there is someone needed that will spend the time (which is a very lot of effort) to teach, explain and care about them.
Everyone of us would like to help and support. At least with stuff or money. - But the dedication to take this position up and fill it out is the hardest point here.
Thank you all for the kind words There are indeed many aspects to the job, much of which I continue to do. One of the biggest problems for me was that I did not want to ally NOOB, or have emissaries who had characters in another guild. This had the potential for conflict and drama. Freja had TDO, which was useful to her for several purposes, but I was not interested in leading TWO guilds. In fact, I came to realize that I enjoy a support role far better than the spotlight of being a guild leader. I was happy as an emissary of NEW2 but I am not made of leader material - my skin is not thick enough.
A distinctive guild tag makes it easier to spot new players and so I agree that a NEW type guild is good for Siege community. Especially with EJ coming. I expect (hope) for there to be new players and also returning players with a lot to catch up on.
Barring that however, I've sort of merged forces with UWSP because the guild shares my ideals of community spirit. The town offers many public services, and is a good place for new players. We tend to hang around out in the open (yes, we sometimes get murdered lol) in case some one comes by. We craft in Umbra and Luna, so that we meet new players. We go to EM events, we chat in GC. It is hard for a new player not to come across UWSP at some point. When EJ comes out, I plan to park Ptarmigan in Help channel often. And once a youngin is found, I launch into NOOB mode
If some one wants to take a turn at a NEW type guild, I'm more than happy to help!
There are indeed many aspects to the job, much of which I continue to do. One of the biggest problems for me was that I did not want to ally NOOB, or have emissaries who had characters in another guild. This had the potential for conflict and drama. Freja had TDO, which was useful to her for several purposes, but I was not interested in leading TWO guilds. In fact, I came to realize that I enjoy a support role far better than the spotlight of being a guild leader. I was happy as an emissary of NEW2 but I am not made of leader material - my skin is not thick enough.A distinctive guild tag makes it easier to spot new players and so I agree that a NEW type guild is good for Siege community. Especially with EJ coming. I expect (hope) for there to be new players and also returning players with a lot to catch up on.
Barring that however, I've sort of merged forces with UWSP because the guild shares my ideals of community spirit. The town offers many public services, and is a good place for new players. We tend to hang around out in the open (yes, we sometimes get murdered lol) in case some one comes by. We craft in Umbra and Luna, so that we meet new players. We go to EM events, we chat in GC. It is hard for a new player not to come across UWSP at some point. When EJ comes out, I plan to park Ptarmigan in Help channel often. And once a youngin is found, I launch into NOOB mode
If some one wants to take a turn at a NEW type guild, I'm more than happy to help!
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As said by Tanager, our town is opened to all new or returning players that a need a place where to start and have help ... We were already setting eveything for EJ but i think we are ready also before that ... In any case we'll give our support if someone want lead a NOOB/NEW Guild
... We were already setting eveything for EJ but i think we are ready also before that ... In any case we'll give our support if someone want lead a NOOB/NEW Guild