It took 5 reinstall's and two full patches, had to patch with the cd in, then run uo for the first time with the cd in. Then take cd out, restart, and voila. The price I pay for the non 2 1/2D graphics. :] hehe but I'll login sometime tomorrow between shifts, but I'll definately be online wednesday, I have both jobs off. (Psst, watch out MOA!) >.< Not like I have much to spend, but I sure have a lot of bickering to make up for!!