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Moldering Ursine - Info, Guide, and Builds

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Very cool pet. 2 => 5 slots.

Bought from Shattered Sanctum Event.

Open yours in Tokuno to get all the Active Magic options.

Here is a planner that is ready to make your build: Saved Planner | uo-cah.com

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This pet has Life Leech, which is a Special Ability. Pets can only have 1 Special Ability, so there are no more choices in that category.

Here is the Animal Training Menu:
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Here are The magical Abilities* ** ........ Special Moves ....... Area Affect Abilities
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*Battle Defense will show up if you take the Wrestling to GM and start increasing Parry.
** Bushido and Ninjitsu will only appear as magic choices if the pet is open in Tokuno.
 
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Training your Moldering Ursine.
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Since it starts at 2 slot, you can gain to 100% on one target. Mine took quite a while to reach 100% on the mage and you do have to heal it. Possibly an hour+. Most pets take 40min.

The idea is to get a good base build and decide what you want to do after that. I am going to increase resists first to make training go smoother.

This section is for a 1 Special Move and 1 magic build. An AI/Chiv build, AKA Special Move/Magic build.

Points Allocation after First Round Of Training:


1. Set the resists the way you want them. This pet has nice starting resists, meaning you can get 80 in the main 3 and with cold and poison you have choices. My preferences would be: 80-80-62-63-80 or 80-80-55-70 or 80-80-80-45-80.
Since the Dexterity and Stamina are at Max, you don't need to/can't forget to set those.

2. Set the Strength to 700. (Maximum)

3. Set the Intelligence to 368. (Maximum because str is 700)

4. Set The Mana Regeneration to 30.

5. Set the HR Regeneration to 7. (Most you can at this time)

6. Put the leftover point in Mana.

Your Pet would Look Like this:
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Points Allocation after Second Round Of Training:

1. Set the Hit Point Regeneration to 20. (Maximum)

There is only one more thing to set for the base Build. Stamina Regeneration. Each point costs 12 intensity points.
You have plenty of points on this pet. When the pet gets hit hard, especially at low Hit points, the Stamina will drop.
Stamina is swing Speed. You have to decide your point allocation from here on. Will you fight hard hitting high HP mobs?
If so, set it higher than 10.

2. Set The Stamina Regeneration to 10.


Lets go ahead and Put the Special Move and Magic on the pet.

3. Choose you Special Move. (I chose Armor Ignore)

4. Choose your Magic ability (I chose Chivalry)


5. I chose to add the remaining points in Hit Points.

My pet looks like this now:

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Points Allocation after Third Round Of Training: (Last Round)

1. Set Base Damage per second to Maximum!!!!!
You must do this in the last round.

You want to save points for scrolls. A full set of 120 scrolls costs 600 Points

You can use whatever scrolls you want or have but I like to leave room for 120's even though I have a hundred pets that are waiting their turn for 120s.

If you followed this guide; After setting the base damage to Max you will have 866 points to use.
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2. Set the Hit points to 600.

600 is a good amount of HP on a pet.
You should either Vet your pet, run consume to keep the hit points near the top.

We still have 812 points to use. This pet is maxxed in almost all the stats and areas where you can add points.

At this point the build is complete. You can add those points where you want them.
The only places you can add points are:

Hit Points
Mana
Stamina Regeneration

Now you see why I said the intensity is the main draw of this pet.
A Ram has Life Leech but not enough intensity that you can add.

3. I bumped mines Stamina Regeneration to 15.

4. I decided to make the Hit points 715.

5. That left me with 1016 in mana.

This ends up being a very meaty AI/Chiv pet!

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This section is for a Active and Passive Magic Build. FWW/Chivalry with a passive Magic Ninjitsu. AI/Feint/Chivalry Passive Bushido

The difference is, these magics will cost an extra 701 points for the Ability, Magic and Scroll.

Points Allocation after First Round Of Training:

1. Set the resists the way you want them. This pet has nice starting resists, meaning you can get 80 in the main 3 and with cold and poison you have choices. My preferences would be: 80-80-62-63-80 or 80-80-55-70 or 80-80-80-45-80.
Since the Dexterity and Stamina are at Max, you don't need to/can't forget to set those.

2. Set the Strength to 700. (Maximum)

3. Set the Intelligence to 368. (Maximum because str is 700)

4. Set The Mana Regeneration to 30.

5. Set the HR Regeneration to 7. (Most you can at this time)

6. Put the leftover point in Mana.

The pet will look like the end of first round above.

Points Allocation after Second Round Of Training:
I am going to finish the Regens and Add the Magics and special.
You must go in order on the abilities and magics to get what you want.

1. Set the Hit Point regeneration to 20 (Maximum)

2. Set the Stamina Regeneration to 5 (You cant get much more, its expensive. But you can modify HP and Mana for more)

I am Choosing to build AI/Feint/Chiv You can choose AI/FWW/Chiv. Or just FWW/Chiv
I like this build for my archer, he has a Triton with this build, he has 0 Vet and Chivalry healing. But can run consume as needed.

3. Choose AI

4. Choose Feint. (This also adds the Magic Bushido)

5. Choose Chivalry. (This makes the Bushido a Passive Magic and Chivalry the Active Magic)

6. The remaining 6 points can go in Mana

The pet looks like this now: Notice the Chivalry is the active magic on the Lore & Knowledge Screen.
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We head to the last round. We are concentrating on setting the final Mana and HP

Final Points Allocation

1. Set the Base Damage per second to Maximum!!!!!

Because you added another magic, you now need 700 Points for Scrolls.

Save that many points for later.

You used 35 points to set The max damage. You need 700 for Scrolls.

You have 766 Points that you can add to Hit points and Mana.

Just like the last one, You need to decide where those points go.

2. Set The Hit points to the value you want.

3. Remaining points in Mana

Pet can look like this: Depends on what Mana and HP You want. FWW/Chiv will have an extra 100 points.

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Other Builds:
Since these pets can get any Magic, you can Do any combination of Special Ability and Magic.

Armor Ignore/Mysticism Armor Pierce/Discord With or without an Area

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AI with Ninjitsu. A hiding bear. Bushido magic.... AI Then Bushido Magic
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Do not do these unless you are messing around on Test Center or have a lot of Bears.

You could Add Battle Defense and Turn it into a Bear Ram. Cant add AI.
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You can Add Necro at a cost of 1501, then add Necro mage at another 1501. So you only have 1 training round left, but you can put AI on the the last round. Youll have a really bad pet.
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Poison Build

Unfortunately The Life Leech does not allow a good Poison Build for these.

You can add Poison Magic and open new Area Abilities but You can not add anything else.
The poison starts at 20, you would need to increase to 100 before moving on.

You can make This: Add poison, add Poison breath, then a new Magic
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This Add Poison and AI, then a Magic Please don't.
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i got one training it up now, looks good. I opened it on Tokuno Islands just in case...
UO CAH says no overcapped skills but mine jumped to 102.8 parry on 100 wrestling..

Am going to give it AI and Bushido, so gets Whirlwind for free and hopefully with the Life Leech it acts like a mini Sampire we shall see. It should do a big leech on the single whirlwind attack?

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@Mark Bradburn Life Leech on pets does not work that way.

Life Leech (Mana Cost 5)Trains the creature in the Life Leech special ability, causing the creature to leech life from incoming damage.

Some like it on Rams. That is not the value in this pet. The high intensity is.

AI/Bushido will make a low damage output tank pet.

Copy it to TC and try some builds before you do that.
 

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It certainly is a good MOUNTABLE pet. These are the "competitors" (mountable + 5 slot) according to uo-cah:


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While I think training intensity is ok, I am not sure about the elemental damage spread. It is actually worse than the CU's (50 cold + 50 energy) because it got physical.

I also think that life leech is a disadvantage because it is draining mana so fast. I built a few "tanking" templates on TC (though not skilling them up to 120) such as LL only, LL + feint, LL + AI, but wasn't too impressed as I had to keep it healing nevertheless.

It might also be a good pet for pirate hunting, e.g. teleporting over and self healing? I am not sure where exactly its place is. I have never built a necro pet, so maybe that is something to look into.
 
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Someone suggested fww chiv ai ?
Life leech is a Special Ability so I don't think you can do that. It's not going to be able to get as many options in builds as a Triton. But, you can get an active and passive magic.
 

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necro pet
From the info I have, that would cost 1500 points plus points for scrolls.. You would have very little added HP. Necro does not work well because the spells are not working properly. Same 1500 for Necro mage and more scrolls..
 

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Life Leech (Mana Cost 5)Trains the creature in the Life Leech special ability, causing the creature to leech life from incoming damage.
I just tested it on an old grizzled mare with LL. If it is just standing still taking damage, it is not healing or losing mana. If it attacks, LL works and it is also losing mana if it is successfully landing a hit. I think they must have changed something. LL does not seem to be based on incoming but outgoing damage, or am I missing here something?
 
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I just tested it on an old grizzled mare with LL. If it is just standing still taking damage, it is not healing or losing mana. If it attacks, LL works and it is also losing mana if it is successfully landing a hit. I think they must have changed something. LL does not seem to be based on incoming but outgoing damage, or am I missing here something?
I have never been a fan of Life Leech on Rams. I never see the HP increase on mine without doing it myself.
@PlayerSkillFTW can tell us about it.
 

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This thing is a beast. It's basically a pet-vampire. Look at this possibility.
That's what I mean the intensity is the value of this pet. Closest thing is a 2 slot Reptalon, I'm not sure why players don't use Reptalons much, maybe the dragon breath.
 

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It certainly is a good MOUNTABLE pet. These are the "competitors" (mountable + 5 slot) according to uo-cah:


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While I think training intensity is ok, I am not sure about the elemental damage spread. It is actually worse than the CU's (50 cold + 50 energy) because it got physical.

I also think that life leech is a disadvantage because it is draining mana so fast. I built a few "tanking" templates on TC (though not skilling them up to 120) such as LL only, LL + feint, LL + AI, but wasn't too impressed as I had to keep it healing nevertheless.

It might also be a good pet for pirate hunting, e.g. teleporting over and self healing? I am not sure where exactly its place is. I have never built a necro pet, so maybe that is something to look into.
I never knew the Unicorns could be trained to five slot!
 

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I never knew the Unicorns could be trained to five slot!
They can but AI/chiv is a tight squeeze.

 

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Sorry wrong pet type above. Unicorns are similar, I use Kirins.
 

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Am going to give it AI and Bushido, so gets Whirlwind for free and hopefully with the Life Leech it acts like a mini Sampire we shall see. It should do a big leech on the single whirlwind attack?

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You actually don't want Whirlwind on them. Every time Life Leech procs, it consumes 5 Mana. So WWing a bunch of mobs, would immediately devour a ton of Mana. Whirlwind is highly unreliable as well, the pet can be completely surrounded by mobs, and never use Whirlwind Attack. They use it more often in single target, than in AoE situations :/

@Mark Bradburn Life Leech on pets does not work that way.

Life Leech (Mana Cost 5)Trains the creature in the Life Leech special ability, causing the creature to leech life from incoming damage.

Some like it on Rams. That is not the value in this pet. The high intensity is.

AI/Bushido will make a low damage output tank pet.
Life Leech procs on outgoing damage, not incoming. The harder the pet hits, the more damage they heal when Life Leech procs. Life Leech only procs on melee hits too, and doesn't proc off of Frenzied Whirlwind ticks (Frenzied Whirlwind isn't affected by modifiers like EoO, Divine Fury, or Con Wep either). The biggest weaknesses of Life Leech healing for pets, is A) mobs that are immune to Life Leech, B) mobs that have extremely high Wrest/Parry skill, and so are difficult to land hits on, and C) taking so much damage that their Stamina drops, slowing down their swing speed and therefore self healing.

Here's how i built my Moldering Ursine. Saved Planner | uo-cah.com
Chiv+AI, for maximum single target damage output for his Life Leech to scale with. I gave him 30 Stamina Regen to keep him swinging fast even when taking heavy damage, due to his self healing scaling with his damage output. Moldering Ursines are basically superior to Ossein Rams, not only do they have higher Intensity, but they're even mountable.

The true secret power of Life Leech pets, is the fact that their Life Leech can still heal at full effectiveness through Combat Training: Berserk. Upon reaching half health, Berserk causes the pet to gain a ton of damage output, and damage resistance, but at the cost of severely reducing all incoming heals (other than Life Leech for pets). It's basically a "Kamikaze" mode for any other pet, they'll eventually die, but dish out a ****ton of damage during it. Life Leech pets can survive while Berserk, and dish out a ton of damage. For example, here's a screen of my 120 Chiv+AI Ossein Ram dealing a 436 damage AI during EoO while Berserk (that same hit, took the Ram from half health to full). I've heard of others saying they've seen 500+. That Ossein Ram was at GM Tactics, and didn't have the TP for anything higher. Moldering Ursines do have enough TP for full 120s, and so can hit even harder when Berserk, and have higher HP.
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Thoughts on skipping the HPR entirely because of the LL? Would be able to add 720 pts to mana with those 360 pts of HPR.
 

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Thoughts on skipping the HPR entirely because of the LL? Would be able to add 720 pts to mana with those 360 pts of HPR.
Either do that on TC or save those points and fight difficult things and see what happens. Rams have been out for years, how many Rams do you see while playing?
 

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Either do that on TC or save those points and fight difficult things and see what happens. Rams have been out for years, how many Rams do you see while playing?
Ossein Rams are still very much flying under the radar. Most people are unaware of how powerful they can be. Most people don't even know what Berserk does, let alone the intricacies and interactions of it. Plus, it takes a high end Ossein Ram to really get a lot of the bells & whistles, and even then they still can't fully 120 everything.
Hell, most people still use Cu Sidhes against literally everything, even when there's far better pets for what they're specifically hunting.
 

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Either do that on TC or save those points and fight difficult things and see what happens. Rams have been out for years, how many Rams do you see while playing?
ended up going chiv ai LL on mine with 10 hpr and 10 sr 30 mr. 800 hps and 990 something mana all 120s
 

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ended up going chiv ai LL on mine with 10 hpr and 10 sr 30 mr. 800 hps and 990 something mana all 120s
Yup. The most basic build will probably be the best. I'll find out how squishy these are soon. Probably a great thing you put the SR to 10.

I'll post some other build possibilities. We need 2 of these per tamer. :)
 

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Well all the negative stuff about Bushido AI but ive tested it, just ask anyone on Europa how tanky Teddy is...he is famous
The WW goes off very frequently and if surrounded by mobs ive seen him heal for 200+, Bushido doesnt use a lot of mana and neither does the WW so he rarely runs out, even during an entire 1hr town invasion
With the Bushido skills he can take on massive groups of mobs and hardly takes any damage at all, whilst all the Sampires are running away like babies...
Ive seen him hit a Parag for 450+ dmg also. Test it and see
Chiv AI obviously for single target but with any large group EOO just gets them killed. All the pets in the events drop like flies...except this guy
I have fully trained CUs, Tritons, Ossein Rams etc etc all following recommended templates, but none of them compare to this guy

Im not after a max damage pet as everyone seems to be focussing on here....

Question : Do you have a Bushido AI Ursine?
 
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Well all the negative stuff about Bushido AI but ive tested it, just ask anyone on Europa how tanky Teddy is...he is famous
The WW goes off very frequently and if surrounded by mobs ive seen him heal for 200+, Bushido doesnt use a lot of mana and neither does the WW so he rarely runs out, even during an entire 1hr town invasion
With the Bushido skills he can take on massive groups of mobs and hardly takes any damage at all, whilst all the Sampires are running away like babies...
Ive seen him hit a Parag for 450+ dmg also. Test it and see
Chiv AI obviously for single target but with any large group EOO just gets them killed. All the pets in the events drop like flies...except this guy
I have fully trained CUs, Tritons, Ossein Rams etc etc all following recommended templates, but none of them compare to this guy

Question : Do you have a Bushido AI Ursine?
I have a FWW/Chiv Triton. It also gets passive advantages of bushido. And is a tank.

I'll probably make the same bear.

If you see FWW not activating. Call the pet back and tell it to attack the crowd again. They forget sometimes.
 

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@Mark Bradburn we had a player on LS that could solo Rikki with a Hiryu with Bushido. It also used little mana. I made a thread about it long ago.
 

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I have a FWW/Chiv Triton. It also gets passive advantages of bushido. And is a tank.

I'll probably make the same bear.

If you see FWW not activating. Call the pet back and tell it to attack the crowd again. They forget sometimes.
Thanks i tend to avoid pets with Chiv as i dont really do much single target stuff, FWW is good but i think only the first hit can life leech which is why i went with Bushido, the single WW hits much harder so leeches more life. It rarely runs out of mana, and at least the pet seems to use the Pet Skills properly, unlike some of the other magic pets. Ill try a Mysticism one next see if they are any good
 

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Well all the negative stuff about Bushido AI but ive tested it, just ask anyone on Europa how tanky Teddy is...he is famous
The WW goes off very frequently and if surrounded by mobs ive seen him heal for 200+, Bushido doesnt use a lot of mana and neither does the WW so he rarely runs out, even during an entire 1hr town invasion
With the Bushido skills he can take on massive groups of mobs and hardly takes any damage at all, whilst all the Sampires are running away like babies...
Ive seen him hit a Parag for 450+ dmg also. Test it and see
Chiv AI obviously for single target but with any large group EOO just gets them killed. All the pets in the events drop like flies...except this guy
I have fully trained CUs, Tritons, Ossein Rams etc etc all following recommended templates, but none of them compare to this guy

Im not after a max damage pet as everyone seems to be focussing on here....

Question : Do you have a Bushido AI Ursine?
Any chance you could post screenshots of this build (the lore pages)? I'm very interested in this. Don't want to make another ai chiv pet and this sounds interesting. Thanks for your post!
 

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I think I am done with the top of this thread now. Go back up and take a look. If you want me to add other builds. PM me a shot of the Knowledge and Lore page.

Have fun!

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Good to see more pet choices.

Once popped, can these be transferred to another player? The ozy mount was apparently nerfed in this way; can't transfer it.

I would just keep a bunch of these unpopped (and untrained). Yet another chiv-ai pet, at least based on current pet behavior, isn't super compellling. Beyond the berserk case that PlayerSkill mentions, healing of other pets may be more useful. The resists flexilbity on the Moldering is a benefit over the Cu.

Would be interesting to consider what you can get trained up to just 3 slot. A primary pet as 3 slot, with a untrained triton (with high wrestle and resist) as 2nd pet could be an interesting combo. of course, 2 tritons can do that job too.
 

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Tested my Chiv+AI Moldering Ursine out last night. Poor Paragon Balrons didn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell. Didn't have to Discord, Vet, or even run Consume Damage on my Moldering Ursine, and he was ***** slapping around the Paragon Balrons. Most of them couldn't even get my Moldering Ursine below 95% Health before he'd kill them. Berserk didn't even have a chance to activate, because the Para Balrons simply couldn't out damage his self healing. He's not even full 120s yet, he has 120 Wrest/110 Tact/110 Anat, and was around GM Chiv at the time.
Another benefit of Life Leech over Healing, is that Poison and Mortal Strike do not interfere with Life Leech's healing.
 

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Hello all my friendly tamers.

You make an awesome research and developpement on taming, I thank you so much.

A primary pet as 3 slot, with a untrained triton (with high wrestle and resist) as 2nd pet could be an interesting combo.
I think sensibily the same thing but with 2 ursine cause they have pack instinct.

I do not play enough to stuff my toon and buy 2 other ursine, shame on me. :)


Thank you Mark Bradburn, I have done a mistake when i learn the lore. I will go bushido build if I can farm a second one, a clean LL pet is really cold, sadly, I do not love the skin.
 
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Hello all my friendly tamers.

You make an awesome research and developpement on taming, I thank you so much.


I think sensibily the same thing but with 2 ursine cause they have pack instinct.

I do not play enough to stuff my toon and buy 2 other ursine, shame on me. :)
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@PlayerSkillFTW take it to an allosaurus. Let us how it does. A typical full built pet takes 10 to 12 min to kill if I remember correctly.
Mines still 40s chiv.
I'll stick mine on Gregorio today while get more drops.
 

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Tested my Chiv+AI Moldering Ursine out last night. Poor Paragon Balrons didn't stand a snowball's chance in Hell. Didn't have to Discord, Vet, or even run Consume Damage on my Moldering Ursine, and he was ***** slapping around the Paragon Balrons. Most of them couldn't even get my Moldering Ursine below 95% Health before he'd kill them. Berserk didn't even have a chance to activate, because the Para Balrons simply couldn't out damage his self healing. He's not even full 120s yet, he has 120 Wrest/110 Tact/110 Anat, and was around GM Chiv at the time.
Another benefit of Life Leech over Healing, is that Poison and Mortal Strike do not interfere with Life Leech's healing.
How does it go against Rend in the labyrinth, and compare to other pets vs. Rend?

Many (cheaper) pets can solo the paragon balrons.
This may be a reasonable PvP pet, if we're looking at differentiating, too.

A 3 slot moldering (with interesting debuf special, mountable)+ 2slot triton (with high inherent wrestling), or a 3+2 triton duo (no mount option, probably fine for most boss content) could be interesting.

Can the Moldering Ursine, once popped, be transferred to another player?
 
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Any chance you could post screenshots of this build (the lore pages)? I'm very interested in this. Don't want to make another ai chiv pet and this sounds interesting. Thanks for your post!
Just add AI, the Bushido as you get WW attack with it, i still have points to 120 some others if i want but he really doesnt need it
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My experience was different at the Balrons. 4 Para birds mobbed him on the way in. The Balron was a paragon. Two normal Balrons then another Para. So he fought with 0 mana. I stayed a long time, Chiv went from low 70s to 80.

I love the graphics! His punch knocked that Para back! I like the way they stand before they go attack something.
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Could I have disco WW and LL ? If so which order to add?
Nope if you put Bushido magic on you get WW for Free. If you remove Bushido by putting Discord on, the WW goes away.

For discord options:

Bulkiest build AI/Disco. Could do Goo/AI/Disco

for 700 extra points you can put FWW on and then Choose Discord. Less Bulky build.
 

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How does it go against Rend in the labyrinth, and compare to other pets vs. Rend?
Without Discord, Vetting, Consume Damage, or EoO active, Rend is a challenge for a Chiv+AI Moldering Ursine. With any one of these in effect, Rend is definitely soloable by the bear, and with any combination of these, Rend becomes extremely easy. EoO being active makes a huge difference for the Moldering Ursine, as does having the victim Discorded.
 

Scott1234

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Without Discord, Vetting, Consume Damage, or EoO active, Rend is a challenge for a Chiv+AI Moldering Ursine. With any one of these in effect, Rend is definitely soloable by the bear, and with any combination of these, Rend becomes extremely easy. EoO being active makes a huge difference for the Moldering Ursine, as does having the victim Discorded.
One metric I use - can the solo tamer run deathray against the target, without having to break off death ray to heal or micromanage the pet? That implies consume damage is out. In most circumstances, a mage/tamer caster can out-damage any single pet, so enabling that situation is usually a good priority. Even if flamestrike + corpseskin chaining is used instead of deathray, having to micromanage a "big" 5 slot pet is a major downside (healing pet = less damage output = longer boss lifespan, etc). Once you go down this route, you can usually throw out CHIV-AI and 700str builds too :)
 

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I got mine to just over 100 Chivalry and went back to the Balrons. AI/Chiv Build.

Again a para was there so bear started with little mana.
I am running berserk as told it would do well. Well The bear was not winning so I had to heal him up.
The Balron also healed up.
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I killed a bunch of normal ones, he killed some fast and some about half as fast.

Then when another para came I took the bear to town so he could regen mana, took forever.
Came back to the same result, I'm running berserk. Bear is not gonna live much longer so I had to heal him up.
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I saw some upward ticks in HP, usually those were when his HP was near max, I see none when he is low HP.
The good thing is 15 SR works great. But 10 would work fine if you don't let your pet get this low HP.

I see the same results with LL as I do on my Ram. The best feature of the bear is the intensity. IMO.

Maybe Im saying All Kill wrong?
 

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@Scott1234 A Triton does not need much healing if the resists match the target damage. Are you running some balanced resists numbers or putting the important ones to 80?
 

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One metric I use - can the solo tamer run deathray against the target, without having to break off death ray to heal or micromanage the pet? That implies consume damage is out. In most circumstances, a mage/tamer caster can out-damage any single pet, so enabling that situation is usually a good priority. Even if flamestrike + corpseskin chaining is used instead of deathray, having to micromanage a "big" 5 slot pet is a major downside (healing pet = less damage output = longer boss lifespan, etc). Once you go down this route, you can usually throw out CHIV-AI and 700str builds too :)
Yeah, Death Ray Tamer/Mages © excel with Disco+CB pet builds, which Moldering Ursines can't learn Conductive Blast due to already having Life Leech. Disco+CB Tritons are the best for Death Ray Tamer/Mages ©. The pet enhances the Tamer's damage, in this case.
Chiv+AI pets do exceptionally well with Disco/Tamers. The Tamer enhances the pet's damage, in this case.

I got mine to just over 100 Chivalry and went back to the Balrons. AI/Chiv Build.

Again a para was there so bear started with little mana.
I am running berserk as told it would do well. Well The bear was not winning so I had to heal him up.
The Balron also healed up.
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I killed a bunch of normal ones, he killed some fast and some about half as fast.

Then when another para came I took the bear to town so he could regen mana, took forever.
Came back to the same result, I'm running berserk. Bear is not gonna live much longer so I had to heal him up.
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I saw some upward ticks in HP, usually those were when his HP was near max, I see none when he is low HP.
The good thing is 15 SR works great. But 10 would work fine if you don't let your pet get this low HP.

I see the same results with LL as I do on my Ram. The best feature of the bear is the intensity. IMO.

Maybe Im saying All Kill wrong?
What is the Wrest on it? 120 Wrest is extremely important for Moldering Ursines, since their ability to self heal is based on dishing damage, which requires them to land hits (hence why extremely high Wrest/Parry foes can be problematic for them). For my tests, whenever the Paragon Balron got my Moldering Ursine to half health (which only happened if the bear didn't use EoO at all during the fight), then the Berserk would kick in, and the Para Balron was unable to damage my Moldering Ursine below 40-45% health before the bear would heal itself back to half health. EoO (especially at 120 Chiv) makes a huge difference for the Moldering Ursine.
 

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so ive now trained up 3 Ursines :

1. Bushido AI
2. Mysticism AI Explosive GOO
3. Spellweaving AI

They are ranked in that order. Thought Spellweaving may be good but just doesnt cut it. Mysticism ok but just doesnt really seem to get the healing that Bushido gives, same with the Spellweaving build, when surrounded they just drop quite rapidly apart from Bushido build
 

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so ive now trained up 3 Ursines :

1. Bushido AI
2. Mysticism AI Explosive GOO
3. Spellweaving AI

They are ranked in that order. Thought Spellweaving may be good but just doesnt cut it. Mysticism ok but just doesnt really seem to get the healing that Bushido gives, same with the Spellweaving build, when surrounded they just drop quite rapidly apart from Bushido build
Is the Bushido damage solid? My biggest gripe with Bushido pets has always been the lack of healing. I’m excited for this as I’ve struggled to find a solid rideable AOE pet to complement my Chiv/Magery pets.
 
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