Mage wep vs regular spell channeling

[jtw1984]

Had a question, and no one else in game seemed to be able to answer it for me.

What is the advantage of having a weapon with mage weapon on it?

I'm trying out a mage in factions for the first time, and see 2 different types of mage weapons:

Example 1:

-mage weapon
spell channeling
6 DCI

Then there is this:

No mage weapon
Spell Channeling
21 DCI

So the difference in the 2 is one has higher DCI, and one is a mage weapon and one is not.

Can someone please explain to me the importance of having it say mage weapon?

 

[Bomb Bloke]

A Mage Weapon takes your Magery skill and uses that in place of the weapon skill.

So you can literally train Magery by hitting something over the head with a Mage Weapon.

However, most Mage Weapons lower your Magery skill by the displayed amount when equipped. This is actually considered a boon; it makes it easier to train, and you don't need to cast high end spells while under the effect. Less mana used, faster casting time, more spells cast, more gains.

A Spell Channeling item, on the other hand, can remain equipped while casting spells. This is typically considered far more important then the Mage Weapon property.

Taking the Swords of Prosperity as an example (It has SC as well as MW-0), my character can cast spells with the weapon equipped (if it wasn't Channeling it would get dumped in my pack every time I tried). I can also hit monsters as though I was an Elder Swordsman, due to my 110 points of Magery (if it wasn't a MW I'd be lucky to hit anything at all with them).

 

[Storm]

it alows your mage to use the weapon as if he has the fighting skill in question
example
my tamer has 110 magery
i equip my reapeter bow that has -21 magery weapon on it
this makes my magery 89 and my archery 89
now i put on my plus 21 jewels and now my magery is 110 and my archery is effectivly 110
the spell chanelling alows me to keep casting heal without disarming bow and I am hitting the target for extra damage to !

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[Lord GOD(GOD)]

The first one uses your Magery as your weapon skill.
The second one requires you to have Swords skill otherwise you're as good as disarmed. (Swords in this case as thats a Twinkline Scimitar)

Any time you get hit its comparing your weapon skill with theirs (including in PvM, monsters Wrestle vs your weapon skill). If you have 0 and they have 120 you'll get hit everytime, if you both have 120 you get hit 50% of the time. HCI & DCI are extensions to weapon skills base hit/defend chance. If you don't have a weapon skill HCI & DCI don't even work.

Without a weapon skill [Swords, Fencing, Macing, Archery, Wrestle, Defensive Wrestle, Mage Weapon] & the corresponding thing in your hands you will get hit everytime by just about everything. By corresponding I mean... if you have 120 Wrestle and hold a Boomstick (Macing) you have no weapon skill (well maybe 20 from jack of all trades if your human) so will get hit all the time.

So the importance is if it doesn't say mage weapon you need 120 skill points in whatever weapon it is (unless its use best weapon skill).

With defensive Wrestle DCI works but not HCI because it's only the defensive half of Wrestle.

Without a weapon skill in PvP your going to get hit more than once every 1.25s (which is the max swing + hit spell + any delayed damage specials like bleed) and if you're getting hit that much you're not going to be able to cast very much.

 

[jtw1984]

The first one uses your Magery as your weapon skill.
The second one requires you to have Swords skill otherwise you're as good as disarmed. (Swords in this case as thats a Twinkline Scimitar)

Any time you get hit its comparing your weapon skill with theirs (including in PvM, monsters Wrestle vs your weapon skill). If you have 0 and they have 120 you'll get hit everytime, if you both have 120 you get hit 50% of the time. HCI & DCI are extensions to weapon skills base hit/defend chance. If you don't have a weapon skill HCI & DCI don't even work.

Without a weapon skill [Swords, Fencing, Macing, Archery, Wrestle, Defensive Wrestle, Mage Weapon] & the corresponding thing in your hands you will get hit everytime by just about everything. By corresponding I mean... if you have 120 Wrestle and hold a Boomstick (Macing) you have no weapon skill (well maybe 20 from jack of all trades if your human) so will get hit all the time.

So the importance is if it doesn't say mage weapon you need 120 skill points in whatever weapon it is (unless its use best weapon skill).

With defensive Wrestle DCI works but not HCI because it's only the defensive half of Wrestle.

Without a weapon skill in PvP your going to get hit more than once every 1.25s (which is the max swing + hit spell + any delayed damage specials like bleed) and if you're getting hit that much you're not going to be able to cast very much.

Thank you!

 

[Viquire]

With added anatomy skill you also get a small damage increase on the weapon, since you probably don't have tactics, and can maintain a high defense rating even if disarmed.

 

[EDA_GL]

If you roll the -mage weapon template as well....the anatomy/eval combo for primary evasion still works! Think you need 200 points total in anat/eval to get the same effectiveness as 120 rastle. But if your using a -mage weapon anyways.....your doing it so you can have 9 skills to max your dmg output, not to get hit less!