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Mage weapons

Ivory Norwind

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I know, it's a long time that they are items in game.
But unfortunately i don't know english very well :(
I don't understand how i have to use them.
Please, there's someone can explain me very easy all that to know about that mage weapons? And what means "mage weapon"?
Timberwolf, don't get angry :(
Margherita
 

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A Mage Weapon lowers your Magery Skill by the amount listed.

In return, it will allow you to use that weapon as if your Magery Skill was the proper Weapon Skill for the weapon. So, if you have a Staff of Pyros, and your character has 120 Magery skill, they will swing the weapon as if they have 120 Macing skill, for purpose of determining chance to hit, and your bonuses to defend.

However, you cannot use special moves of the weapon (things like Whirlwind), if you do not have the actual weapon skill and tactics at the proper levels.

You can use items with Magery bonuses (like jewelry) to bring your skill back up to its normal level. So, If I use a "Mage Weapon -24" Bow, at 120 Magery, it would lower my Magery to 96. I could then put on jewelry that adds up to +24 or more magery, and be at 120 Magery again (which will also increase my chance to hit with the Bow)

If a Mage Weapon has Spell Channeling, it will remain in your hand when you cast spells. If it does not, it will fall into your backpack, and your Magery Skill will return to normal as you choose a target.

Holding a Spell Channeling Mage Weapon with a skill penalty, and not using anything to offset the skill reduction, will allow you to gain skill quicker, by casting lower level spells to gain skill. This only works if you have the room in your skill to go up, without the weapon.

One can also gain Magery from weapon combat, as the Magery skill is treated as the weapon skill. It will only do so, if you do not have the actual weapon skill at a higher level than the adjusted Magery skill. One can even gain magery using a Mage Weapon with 100% poison damage, by the method normally used to train weapon skills with a golem - and because you will be doing so little damage to the golem from not being a warrior type, the golem will probably regenerate its hit points faster than you can lower them with the weapon, even on one that does not have 100% poison resist.
 
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Mage weapons use your adjusted skill (after the minus if any, plus if you have items to cancel out the minus) as a weapon skill.

What most people don't understand is that without a weapon skill or mage weapon or wrestling or defensive wrestle your character is naked against melee hits. That also means that any DCI you equip doesn't do anything because it's based on weapon dodge chance.

Say you have an elf character (so no 20 wrestling from jack of all trades), with no mage weapon a mongbat out wrestles you. That means a mongbat will hit you every time because even though they probably have very little you have 0.

If however you have 100 magery and use a mage wep with -0 you now effectively have 100 wrestle compared to the mongbat and the mongbat will not be able to hit you a great deal. On top of that you get the ability to hit too though thats not generally the purpose of them.

With defensive wrestle (a combination of eval int and anatomy) you get just the defensive part but couldn't actually wrestle anything to death as it has no hit part. This is sometimes preferable over wrestling skill as the formula it's worked out can give you 20 more skill points.
 

Uvtha

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When the mage weapon is eqquiped your magery acts as your weapon skill. And it drops your magery the ammount that it shows.
 

Ivory Norwind

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Thanks to all.
Thanks for having used an easy english :)
Finally i've understand what means to have a mage weapon :)
Basara, a special thanks to you :)

PS: i try to learn english and i'd be very glad if who answer to me tell to me all my mistakes.
 
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