Lowering stone walls, filling in gaps. How to?

[Ezekiel Zane]

I remember reading about someone saying you could lower stone walls into the gaps when adding interior walls.

How? When I place a wall piece above and use the deco-tool, I just get the message "you cannot lower it down any further."

 

[DJAd]

Place a ladder then climb up so you are higher. The ladder from the deeds. I can't remember where it comes from though. Maybe heritage token.

 

[Cinderella]

I have placed a goza mat with (Char A)
use (Char B) to put the wall piece.
have (Char A) lower the goza mat (I use a macro: last object, last target)
the wall piece should lower as it does

(I did this when they first came out, not sure if this still works)

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

@Cinderella , So there's a couple of south wall gaps on my first floor. Above on the second floor it's clear so I can place a corner wall piece. If I put this on a goza and lower the goza the wall piece will lower too.

Sorry, I've been unable to test due to work. Otherwise I'd already have checked it out myself.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Well so far I've not been able to get anything to work. I get the same message for the goza as the wall piece. Goza is placed on 2nd floor. I run to first floor and attempt to lower it. Cannot go any lower.

 

[Cinderella]

have you tried putting it inside a crate & chopping the crate?

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

have you tried putting it inside a crate & chopping the crate?

I thought about that but the tile where I want the wall piece to land is already occupied by a corner piece so the crate won't sit upon the correct tile.

 

[Cinderella]

oh I see.
that's why some of the designers have been leaving the corners empty.
so the owner can decide which direction they want to go from there.

 

[Kirthag]

Lowering into spaces like that cannot be done from above the ceiling.

Each level of a house has a set Z-axis count (I believe is 16 - need to check that) from the floor below. Once an item goes above that Z-count, it is officially on the next floor and cannot be lowered if something else is occupying the spot - as in your sample pic (a pillar is occupying the placement spot).

And yes - it is this reason that some interior corner pieces are left out, or a 90-degree wall piece used in construction, so whomever gets the house can decide what they want to do.

Most times, I use a 90-degree wall for these places when constructing.

Sometimes using the circle of transparency (better in the CC than EC) will allow the raising of a wall into a spot from a lower level, but lowering from above the Z-axis limit I've not been able to do myself - and I try, believe me.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Yeah I've tried everything I can think of too. I just thought, that I remembered reading, someone had said they were able to fill in those gaps by lowering a piece from above. I must have read it wrong or remember it wrong because obviously it cannot be done.

As you might be able to tell from the pic that's a standard keep. I've given up on the custom design contests and finally, after waiting years, decided to use granite to do my own. So far that's been my biggest issue.

 

[MeTheGreat]

Stone doors can be placed and secured in their open position on an accessible tile, so that when they shut they fill in a gap. This works for most situations, possibly with the exception of the eastern-most wall. I cannot remember off the top of my head which door fills the specific gap that you have pictured above.

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

Stone doors can be placed and secured in their open position on an accessible tile, so that when they shut they fill in a gap. This works for most situations, possibly with the exception of the eastern-most wall. I cannot remember off the top of my head which door fills the specific gap that you have pictured above.

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!

Works too! Thanks.

 

[MissEcho]

Yeah I've tried everything I can think of too. I just thought, that I remembered reading, someone had said they were able to fill in those gaps by lowering a piece from above. I must have read it wrong or remember it wrong because obviously it cannot be done.

As you might be able to tell from the pic that's a standard keep. I've given up on the custom design contests and finally, after waiting years, decided to use granite to do my own. So far that's been my biggest issue.

You may be mixing it up with a comment I made in that you can sometimes fill some of those gaps by raising a piece up from the floor below, subject to being able to get under it. I have done that in a few spots in the spires to fill that kind of gap.

 

[Old Man of UO]

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!!!

Works too! Thanks.

I have the same issue, but didn't understand the instructions to fill the gap. Can you show a couple pictures on how to do that?

 

[Ezekiel Zane]

I have the same issue, but didn't understand the instructions to fill the gap. Can you show a couple pictures on how to do that?

What you do is drop a door piece down. Have to experiment to get the correct piece. When you set it down, open it. It will remain in the open position when you pick it up and move it to where you want it. Lock it down. When it returns to the closed position it will overlap thru the other wall piece as seen in the 2nd pic.