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Looking for Whirlwind pet advice

AirFluff

Adventurer
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Hiya!

Which pet I should go for? Like pulling all the aggro and killing. And how would you build it (scrolls and stats)?

Thanks
 

PlayerSkillFTW

Babbling Loonie
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WWs excel at Chiv+AI, especially if it's a Pre-Patch WW. WWs have overcap STR (up to 760) and have no wasted specials, so they'll spam AI like mad. Pre-Patch WWs have 720-760 STR and are 3 slot. Newer WWs can spawn between 3-4 slot, but if they have high STR, they're always 4 Slot, so Pre-Patch WWs end up being more powerful.
 

AirFluff

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WWs excel at Chiv+AI, especially if it's a Pre-Patch WW. WWs have overcap STR (up to 760) and have no wasted specials, so they'll spam AI like mad. Pre-Patch WWs have 720-760 STR and are 3 slot. Newer WWs can spawn between 3-4 slot, but if they have high STR, they're always 4 Slot, so Pre-Patch WWs end up being more powerful.
Well WW refers to Whirlwind attack, should have wrote the word but I might be looking for a White Wyrm now too :D Thanks
 

Suetonious

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I like pb ww on a naja, gotta find a nice 2 slot one. A triton is great at just about anything, chiv, ai ww is nice on a triton. Gonna want to farm until you get nice wrestling.
 

PlayerSkillFTW

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Well WW refers to Whirlwind attack, should have wrote the word but I might be looking for a White Wyrm now too :D Thanks
Lol. Yeah, you'd want a FWW+PB Najasaurus then. Highest AoE damage of any pet in game. Ideally, you'd want a 2 slot Najasaurus with 190+ DEX and 170+ Resist after tame. Tough to spawn, but possible, i have a few.

A triton is great at just about anything, chiv, ai ww is nice on a triton. Gonna want to farm until you get nice wrestling.
Chiv+AI+FWW on a Triton is ability bloat (don't forget Healing, which takes 10 Mana per Heal). It won't be the best at single target damage due to FWW, and it won't be the best at AoE due to Chiv+AI. Plus, Chiv and FWW on the same pet work against each other. For a FWW pet, you want him to be surrounded by spawn so that his FWW does the most damage. But with Chiv, he'll be casting EoO and Divine Fury, dropping his DCI while taking double damage from all other mob types. A Chiv+AI+FWW Triton dies a lot more while spawning than a FW+PB Najasaurus does due to this, while dishing out less AoE damage.
Remember, "Less is More" when it comes to pet abilities. It's why i never mix roles on my pets. I have pets dedicated towards Tanking, Single Target DPS, AoE DPS, or Debuffing, and they perform those roles exceptionally well.
 

Nero

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Question: how do you get away from PKs or raiders with a non-ridable 5 slot pet at the champ? I have never understood why players go for the naja, as you are a sitting duck without ridability options. Do you have to be gargoyle and fly? Or can you get away with teleport spell?
 

celticus

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Well I reckon a decent answer to this is that you usually cannot get away, even if mounted. Depending on the PK spec and expertiese. Your Naja with PB/FWW will usually get one of them since they cannot out run it, but the other one will come after you. Usually they travel in 2-3's when they raid spawns. You can try teleporting away, but rarely works. Most of the time, when you have uninvited company there, blue or red, you know what comes next. So lots of tamers esp if they have 105's on them by doing the spawn, just hike it out of there. I imagine having stealth/hiding and some magery of the tamer may help, but never used that.
Actually even more dangerous than PK's are experienced thieves there. If you do enough spawns you'll know what I mean hehe.
The tamer temp is not a good match against PK's worth their salt.
But it is still fun even if you get raided.
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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Question: how do you get away from PKs or raiders with a non-ridable 5 slot pet at the champ?
If I am running a spawn on my tamer (rare due to it being faster on Samp) I invis pet, pop on honor and run into the thickest area of spawn I can find. Once they are targeted I put pet on whichever is healing the other. Usually they wait to raid on end of level three or first of 4... so that takes care of them if it is a 2 person team. By the time the rez up and come back champ is down and I am gone.

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Anything above three I just take the death and call it the price of my Trammy arse being Fel side. No biggie.
 

AirFluff

Adventurer
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Question: how do you get away from PKs or raiders with a non-ridable 5 slot pet at the champ? I have never understood why players go for the naja, as you are a sitting duck without ridability options. Do you have to be gargoyle and fly? Or can you get away with teleport spell?
I won't lol

I don't mind about PKs honestly. They do what they had to do and I'm moving on.
 

AirFluff

Adventurer
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Lol. Yeah, you'd want a FWW+PB Najasaurus then. Highest AoE damage of any pet in game. Ideally, you'd want a 2 slot Najasaurus with 190+ DEX and 170+ Resist after tame. Tough to spawn, but possible, i have a few.
Great gonna look for a nice one then!! Thanks a lot for the advice!!
 

Specialist

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I like pb ww on a naja, gotta find a nice 2 slot one. A triton is great at just about anything, chiv, ai ww is nice on a triton. Gonna want to farm until you get nice wrestling.
u like to put peanut butter on white wyrms? sorry thats how it read in my mind........sound yummy tho
 

Ang7

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Just to jump on this. How would a Chiv and FWW lesser Hiryu compare to a PB FWW naja. Specifically for doing bar at shadowgaurd.

Naja gets the edge with poison and normally people don’t mix aoe with chiv because EOO will kill the pet.

However, bar has only one kind of enemy. I think the chiv boost would make fww stronger.

Maybe a Fww chiv goo triton would be the strongest aoe damage??


Thoughts ? I want to build the best possibly pet for clearing bar.
 
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PlayerSkillFTW

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Just to jump on this. How would a Chiv and FWW lesser Hiryu compare to a PB FWW naja. Specifically for doing bar at shadowgaurd.

Naja gets the edge with poison and normally people don’t mix aoe with chiv because EOO will kill the pet.

However, bar has only one kind of enemy. I think the chiv boost would make fww stronger.

Maybe a Fww chiv goo triton would be the strongest aoe damage??


Thoughts ? I want to build the best possibly pet for clearing bar.
EoO does not modify FWW damage. FWW deals Physical damage based upon Ninjitsu skill, not modified by anything else for pets. A Chiv+FWW Lesser Hiryu would be nowhere near as effective at AoE as a FWW+PB Naja, due to ability bloat. The Lesser Hiryu will be using mana on Grasping Claw, and wasting time on attempting Dismounts on unmounted opponents. This is why a Lesser Hiryu's mana pool appears to last longer. They'll que up a Dismount attempt, hit an unmounted opponent with it, and it'll fail, refunding the Mana used for the Dismount attempt. It's highly inefficient Special usage.
 

Ang7

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EoO does not modify FWW damage. FWW deals Physical damage based upon Ninjitsu skill, not modified by anything else for pets. A Chiv+FWW Lesser Hiryu would be nowhere near as effective at AoE as a FWW+PB Naja, due to ability bloat. The Lesser Hiryu will be using mana on Grasping Claw, and wasting time on attempting Dismounts on unmounted opponents. This is why a Lesser Hiryu's mana pool appears to last longer. They'll que up a Dismount attempt, hit an unmounted opponent with it, and it'll fail, refunding the Mana used for the Dismount attempt. It's highly inefficient Special usage.
awesome, thanks for the info. glad i didnt waste time on it! i'll stick my my pb fww naja
 
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