Looking for pics of the 14th anniversary items

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[TheGrimmOmen]

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They'll be the same in the EC since the graphic set between 2d and EC are the same.

As for perspective, the planters are more "correct", but perspective in UO has always been a screwy thing. The camera angle to the world itself is about 45 degrees, but to character and creature models is closer to 20-30 degrees. Older Legacy artwork, the perspective is all over the place from an almost side-view on the dye tubs to not even adhering to perspective within itself (see: the fountain which the top bowl uses a different perspective than the bottom portion).

The planters follow what they were doing with the KR artwork in that they were trying to put the items in the more technically correct perspective.

Whether this is "right" or "wrong" is obviously in the eye of the beholder, but the planters are more "correct" in terms of perspective to the world itself.

All I have to say is,

-Grimm

 

[TheGrimmOmen]

I have to agree with Dermott...

Okay take a look at the display case...that looks *right* in terms of perspective correct?

Now...warning..I'm about to show off my amazing MS Paint skills :loser:

If you took the display case and made it round, like the planters...you'll notice (Or not cus I really suck at this) that the perspective on both is the same.

I think that because the planters are round, it gives the illusion of being a bit off perspective-wise.


GRIMM HELP ME OUT HER MAN! lol

But do you see it?? Maybe?

http://i52.***********/161kis.jpg

(Don't hate on my 'leet paint skillz)

Hmm. I'm not sure if you are asking if the display cases are in or out of perspective. I believe both are correct, but I don't have any tools to draw anything out at the moment. They both look correct to me though.

-Grimm

 

[TheGrimmOmen]

The perspective of a circle should be ovoid rather than a perfect circle.

For example:

The perspective is a lot less noticeable in non round stuff, but clearly the concept of the original artist was a slightly off center perspective, which is very much evident in any round object that the game shipped with.

Perspective on edged things is harder to tell because of the diagonal orientation of the presentation, but if you look at walls and stuff it has the look of being just slightly shortened.

Either way, even if there is no off kilter perspective (and its all in my mind heh) as an artist for this game one would imagine that you would take what you make, then "photoshop" it into an in game setting to make sure that it looks correct. Clearly this is just not being done, or who ever it is that's making these items look this way simply thinks it looks better full on.

Personally I think the original art is the measuring stick. Its simple, beautifully done all around, and FEELS right in the world. That is the art style and perspective that should be emulated.

What really confuses me is the incident with the arcane circle art. The first arcane circle looked much like the ones we just recently got switched back to (on accident I think) which sports the terrible flat 100% perspective. Shortly after that art came out originally it was replaced with an infinitely better looking piece with an ovoid perspective that matches the original look of round objects, and could be put next to say, a pentagram, and look perfectly in place.

So SOMEONE must know that this perspective is off, and had it fixed. Yet ever since Samuri Empire we have been getting this off perspective on many (but not all!) objects.

Its a puzzle.

The new "desk lamp" from the clean up is also off. It looks out of place. And it's not that the art is bad (although it is clearly not being created at the same resolution sadly) its just off in presentation.

So before I go any further, I would like to say that in discussing UO perspective, I am not debating "right" and "wrong" perspectives, I am simply commenting on the perspective as it appears to be established. I will use the floor tiles as my "universal guide" since they are the things that truly define the perspective. If you look at the tiles, they are equilateral squares turned 45 degrees. This means that you can draw a perfect circle and it touch all 4 sides, or all 4 corners. So any object with a circular top will show as a perfect circle. This is technically accurate to the perspective as established in UO. You can also look at those housing tile blocks that take up an entire tile, the tops are the exact same shape and size as the bottom. This also shows that regardless of height, the circular perspective should hold true.

I will also add that just because a perspective is accurate, it might not always be the most visually appealing. The fountain is a perfect example. The original artists skewed the perspective of the fountain twice - once on the bottom basin, and a second time on the top basin. I think this was because the artist felt that this looked better aesthetically than if the fountain was more perspective "accurate". From my point of view, that was the right call.

I've had some really terrific art conversations over the last week, and this topic was amongst them. I look forward to hearing more alternate opinions on artwork and perspective!

Cheers to all,
-Grimm

 

[TheGrimmOmen]

Are the new virtue tapestries your design, Grimm?

They are pretty items. Someone did a very good job.

BlissMarie

Yup, one of the few pieces that I actually did the artwork as well as the design for! Thanks for the kindness!