Looking for info on masteries spells cd

[Pinco]

I was checking the masteries cooldown, and since I've found few info about that, maybe some of you can confirm what I found:

• Flaming Shot: 10s (all tiers) after target TESTED & CONFIRMED
• Playing The Odds: 1m, 30s (all tiers) after casting TESTED & CONFIRMED
• Called Shot: 1m (all tiers) after casting TESTED & CONFIRMED
• Ethereal Burst:
  TESTS:
  • Tier 1, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 360 minutes (6 hours)
  • Tier 1, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 360 minutes (6 hours)
  • Tier 1, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 330 minutes (5.5 hours)
  • Tier 1, 120 magery, 0 eval int: 360 minutes (6 hours)
  • Tier 1, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 300 minutes (5 hours)
  • Tier 1, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 270 minutes (4.5 hours)
    
    
  • Tier 2, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 240 minutes (4 hours)
  • Tier 2, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 240 minutes (4 hours)
  • Tier 2, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 210 minutes (3.5 hours)
  • Tier 2, 120 magery, 0 eval int: 240 minutes (4 hours)
  • Tier 2, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 180 minutes (3 hours)
  • Tier 2, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 150 minutes (2.5 hours)
    
    
  • Tier 3, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
  • Tier 3, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes(2 hours)
  • Tier 3, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hours)
  • Tier 3, 95 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 100 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 101 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 102.5 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 104 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 105 magery, 90 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 107 magery, 90 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hours)
  • Tier 3, 107.5 magery, 105 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 110 magery, 90 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 105 magery, 105 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hours)
    
  • Tier 3, 120 magery, 0 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
  • Tier 3, 120 magery, 60 eval int: 90 Minutes (1.5 hour)
    
  • Tier 3, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 60 Minutes (1 hour)
  • Tier 3, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 30 Minutes
  
  
• Rejuvenate
  TESTS:
  • Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 720 minutes (12 hours)
  • Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 720 minutes (12 hours)
  • Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 660 minutes (11 hours)
  • Tier 1, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 720 minutes (12 hours)
  • Tier 1, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 600 minutes (10 hours)
  • Tier 1, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 540 minutes (9 hours)
    
    
  • Tier 2, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 480 minutes (8 hours)
  • Tier 2, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 480 minutes (8 hours)
  • Tier 2, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 420 minutes (7 hours)
  • Tier 2, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 480 minutes (8 hours)
  • Tier 2, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 360 minutes (6 hours)
  • Tier 2, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 300 minutes (5 hours)
    
    
  • Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 240 Minutes (4 hours)
  • Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 240 Minutes (4 hours)
  • Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 180 Minutes (3 hours)
  • Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 240 Minutes (4 hours)
  • Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 120 Minutes (2 hours)
  • Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 60 Minutes (1.5 hours)
  
  
• Warcry: 20m (all tiers) after casting TESTED & CONFIRMED
• Whispering: 70m (tier 1) 50m (tier 2) 30m (tier 3) after casting TESTED & CONFIRMED

If you have time to test the missing skill sets it would be great so I can find the formula and add the timer to the UI, thanks

NOTE: I'll update the post as soon as I get new info...

 

[Mandrake of DF]

- Whispering: 30m after casting

Whisper has a cooldown for 40 mins after it has expired (wich last for 10 mins). So you can cast it every 50 mins.

 

[Pawain]

Whisper has a cooldown for 40 mins after it has expired (wich last for 10 mins). So you can cast it every 50 mins.

Mastery 3 Whispering can be cast every 30 minutes. 10 min use 20 min more cooldown. I have used my phones 30 minute timer a bunch of times.

Not sure if the others change cool downs when mastery level increases.

 

[afk]

just tried ethereal burst with a lvl 3 and had a 30 minute cooldown.

Rejuvenate had a 1 hour cooldown with lvl 3

 

[Pinco]

Good, so they change with tier... and rejuvenate seems to change with the skill too, so it's going to be quite interesting to get a formula out of it in order to show a cool down

 

[Pawain]

Good, so they change with tier... and rejuvenate seems to change with the skill too, so it's going to be quite interesting to get a formula out of it in order to show a cool down

The whole setup is affected by skill and Mastery level. But, the cooldowns are mastery level based.

 

[Mervyn]

is it too hard to go on test and set skills to 90 and eat them? pretty sure war cry is 20 mins not an hour, but i've been wrong. Also pretty sure etheral burst is only an hour.

 

[Pinco]

The whole setup is affected by skill and Mastery level. But, the cooldowns are mastery level based.

interesting, that will make things less messy

is it too hard to go on test and set skills to 90 and eat them? pretty sure war cry is 20 mins not an hour, but i've been wrong. Also pretty sure etheral burst is only an hour.

is not about being hard, the problem is that with cooldown that long it will take forever to get enough data...

 

[Pawain]

is not about being hard, the problem is that with cooldown that long it will take forever to get enough data...

Yes. You have to be in game for the cool downs. Just take your 40 accounts and line them up at luna bank.

 

[Pinco]

Yes. You have to be in game for the cool downs. Just take your 40 accounts and line them up at luna bank.

lol 40 accounts, I have usually only a trial account, I reactivated a full access one just now for testing this

 

[Pinco]

ok, rejuvenate have really insane cooldowns...
Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 120 archery: 660 minutes (11 hours)

 

[Pinco]

if someone has few minutes, maybe you can try any of the following (the one without minutes)

Ethereal Burst
Tier 1, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 360 minutes (6 hours)
Tier 1, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 360 (6 hours)
Tier 1, 90 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 1, 120 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 1, 120 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 1, 120 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes

Tier 2, 90 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 2, 90 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 2, 90 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 2, 120 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 2, 120 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 2, 120 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes

Tier 3, 90 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 3, 90 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 3, 90 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes

Rejuvenate
Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 1, 90 chivalry, 120 archery: 660 minutes (11 hours)
Tier 1, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 1, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 1, 120 chivalry, 120 throwing: 540 minutes (9 hours)

Tier 2, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 2, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 2, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 2, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 2, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 2, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: ? minutes

Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: ? minutes

I'll keep it updated as soon as I get the data, thanks

 

[Pinco]

mmm ethereal burst seems uneffected by eval int (at least at tier 1), maybe the tooltip is wrong? :/

 

[Pinco]

I've added a new command on the TC tools to help testing, "Set All Skills To 0" so you can easily reset new characters

 

[Khyro]

Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: ? minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: ? minutes

Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 240 Minutes
Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 240 Minutes
Tier 3, 90 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 180 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 240 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 90 weapon skills: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 120 weapon skills: 90 Minutes

Shouldn't matter, but weapon skill was 120 swords.

 

[Khyro]

• Tier 3, 90 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes

• Tier 3, 90 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes

• Tier 3, 90 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes

• Tier 3, 120 magery, 0 eval int: ? minutes

• Tier 3, 120 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes

• Tier 3, 120 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes

Tier 3, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 90 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 0 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 30 Minutes

 

[Pinco]

Tier 3, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 90 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 0 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes
Tier 3, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 30 Minutes

interesting, eval int seems to affect the time only if is 90+ while for chivalry the weapon skill seems to affect the time from the beginning...

 

[Khyro]

interesting, eval int seems to affect the time only if is 90+ while for chivalry the weapon skill seems to affect the time from the beginning...

I just updated my previous post with the Rejuvenate results to include the last Tier 3 tests.

 

[Pinco]

I just updated my previous post with the Rejuvenate results to include the last Tier 3 tests.

great!
this one looks a bit off:
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 240 Minutes

are you sure is not 120?

 

[Khyro]

great!
this one looks a bit off:
Tier 3, 120 chivalry, 0 weapon skills: 240 Minutes

are you sure is not 120?

Yes, just went back to check:

 

[Pinco]

Yes, just went back to check:

View attachment 75413

yes, I was looking at magery, but chivalry is definately working that way... like if the weapon skill doesn't count if chivalry is less than 120 or something :/

 

[Pinco]

Yes, just went back to check:

View attachment 75413

mmm now by the look of the whole thing is this one of magery looking weird:

Tier 3, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 120 Minutes (2 hours)

 

[Khyro]

• Tier 2, 90 magery, 0 eval int: 240 minutes (4 hours)
• Tier 2, 90 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
• Tier 2, 90 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes
• Tier 2, 120 magery, 0 eval int: 240 minutes (4 hours)
• Tier 2, 120 magery, 90 eval int: ? minutes
• Tier 2, 120 magery, 120 eval int: ? minutes

Tier 2, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 240 Minutes
Tier 2, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 210 Minutes

Tier 2, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 180 Minutes
Tier 2, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 150 Minutes

 

[Pinco]

Tier 2, 90 magery, 90 eval int: 240 Minutes
Tier 2, 90 magery, 120 eval int: 210 Minutes

Tier 2, 120 magery, 90 eval int: 180 Minutes
Tier 2, 120 magery, 120 eval int: 150 Minutes

good now I have to put the pieces together

 

[Pinco]

ok, I've found what I needed, but since very few helped, I'll leave the formula of rejuvenate and ethereal burst out, you will see the formula at work on the UI when you use the spells

 

[TB Cookie [W]]

ok, I've found what I needed, but since very few helped, I'll leave the formula of rejuvenate and ethereal burst out, you will see the formula at work on the UI when you use the spells

Great effort and all that, but decent players don't care about EC!


Can you give the Devs a hand in building all this into the CC one and only original version of the game?!?!

 

[Pinco]

Great effort and all that, but decent players don't care about EC!


Can you give the Devs a hand in building all this into the CC one and only original version of the game?!?!

CC belongs to a museum, it can't be improved... is like to try to improve the pyramids, if you try and they crumble...

 

[TB Cookie [W]]

CC belongs to a museum, it can't be improved... is like to try to improve the pyramids, if you try and they crumble...

Good response, I understand what you are saying, I also hear that viewpoint a lot.

I don't completely get it I admit.
All modern day coding languages are built on the old ones, how come no-one can handle the older {more basic/simpler?} one anymore?

(It's a bit like saying no-one speaks Latin anymore, when most modern day languages are built around it?).

 

[Pinco]

Good response, I understand what you are saying, I also hear that viewpoint a lot.

I don't completely get it I admit.
All modern day coding languages are built on the old ones, how come no-one can handle the older {more basic/simpler?} one anymore?

(It's a bit like saying no-one speaks Latin anymore, when most modern day languages are built around it?).

is not about the code, is about how is build...

the more a piece of code is around the more people will end up to put their hands on it, and the more people touches it, the more it gets messy (it's inevitable since every person thinks in a different way)... like for latin, it's like a word changes in 2000 years, at the end the noone knows the meaning of the original word anymore

besides that, is also a matter of core technology... the engine is obsolete, adding new features means re-writing all from scratch, and at that point is cheaper to make a new client entirely...

remember that EC is not a work of art either, it has been created hastly with the scraps of warhammer online