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Mervyn

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So I happened to log on in the small hours of the morning, and obtained data that more champs had been done in the last few hours than in the entire peak time. Most of them were being done by people from other shards (timezones) exploiting the fact that no one is about to challenge them.

I propose that champ should only be able to be popped between 5pm and 11pm in the shards respected timezone. This would also help the Governments directive to discourage kids from staying up so late playing computer games when they have school in the morning.
 
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So I happened to log on in the small hours of the morning, and obtained data that more champs had been done in the last few hours than in the entire peak time. Most of them were being done by people from other shards (timezones) exploiting the fact that no one is about to challenge them.

I propose that champ should only be able to be popped between 5pm and 11pm in the shards respected timezone. This would also help the Governments directive to discourage kids from staying up so late playing computer games when they have school in the morning.
How bout, no.

How dare someone else do your spawns, eh?

The only exploit happening here is your ridiculous post....
 

Uvtha

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I can't tell if this is a troll, or if you just have really bad ideas...

I'll give you the benifit of the doubt (I guess?) and assume the latter.

I work second shift, and I know I'm not alone. So I get home at midnight, and go to sleep around 6 or 7 am. Why should I not be able to do a champ spawn if I want to because most people are asleep?
 

weins201

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ROFL, um but seriosly NO, How about we shuts shards down in time zones

it would save the enviornment 100000's of lbs of Co2 since computers running UO wont be on ???



umm got to be one of the most off ideas I have ever heard.

and your reasoning OMG. If you have kids up then be a parent, teach them some responsibility. If you get rooled by off sharders hitting up your shard (I doubt) for off peak time to get scrolls then perhaps you should gahter a few more of you freinds and roll them up easy cheap scrolls.
 

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and obtained data that more champs had been done in the last few hours than in the entire peak time. Most of them were being done by people from other shards (timezones) exploiting the fact that no one is about to challenge them.
And that is why the argument that power scrolls should stay in fel because of risk/reward has no substance.
 

Mervyn

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I can't tell if this is a troll, or if you just have really bad ideas...

I'll give you the benifit of the doubt (I guess?) and assume the latter.

I work second shift, and I know I'm not alone. So I get home at midnight, and go to sleep around 6 or 7 am. Why should I not be able to do a champ spawn if I want to because most people are asleep?
Wow that didn't take long for the "i work nights", lets forget everyone else in the world and cater for your needs. And you would be able to do champ spawns on other timezones
 
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I propose that champ should only be able to be popped between 5pm and 11pm in the shards respected timezone.
sorry, no.
so kids/NoBody can do them before 5P? Thinks kids on summer vacation, thinks unemployed, disabled, etc., adults who are home all day.
Thinks people who play shards than their main - (I, personally, also play Izumo, just to mention one)
 

Mervyn

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sorry, no.
so kids/NoBody can do them before 5P? Thinks kids on summer vacation, thinks unemployed, disabled, etc., adults who are home all day.
Thinks people who play shards than their main - (I, personally, also play Izumo, just to mention one)
kid on summer vacation, disabled, unemployed, adults who are home all day, would still be able to do the champs between 5-11pm like everyone else, and if you play another shard you can still do champs between 5-11pm on their respected timezone. I forgot to say that the same rule should be true for harrowers.
 

icm420

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It would make day time playing horribly boring and force almost all pvp to yew gate. No thank you.
 

Mervyn

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It would make day time playing horribly boring and force almost all pvp to yew gate. No thank you.
Agreed, it would make daytime play for pvp more boring, but would make peak time play several times more interesting.
 

Uvtha

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Wow that didn't take long for the "i work nights", lets forget everyone else in the world and cater for your needs. And you would be able to do champ spawns on other timezones
Wait, you are suggesting that -I- am asking everyone to cater to MY needs because I don't want play restricted for anyone?

How is that asking the world to cater to me when you are asking that the game be shut down when its inconvenient to you? And you suggest that in order to please you everyone who can't play from 5-11pm be relegated to non north american shards to be playing the right time zone.

I'm not asking for anything, you're the one asking for the game to be tailored to your specifications.
 

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So I happened to log on in the small hours of the morning, and obtained data that more champs had been done in the last few hours than in the entire peak time. Most of them were being done by people from other shards (timezones) exploiting the fact that no one is about to challenge them.

I propose that champ should only be able to be popped between 5pm and 11pm in the shards respected timezone. This would also help the Governments directive to discourage kids from staying up so late playing computer games when they have school in the morning.
great idea! but your game time should be limited to 2pm-3pm :)
 

Madrid

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So I happened to log on in the small hours of the morning, and obtained data that more champs had been done in the last few hours than in the entire peak time. Most of them were being done by people from other shards (timezones) exploiting the fact that no one is about to challenge them.
:violin:
 

Mervyn

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Wait, you are suggesting that -I- am asking everyone to cater to MY needs because I don't want play restricted for anyone?

How is that asking the world to cater to me when you are asking that the game be shut down when its inconvenient to you? And you suggest that in order to please you everyone who can't play from 5-11pm be relegated to non north american shards to be playing the right time zone.

I'm not asking for anything, you're the one asking for the game to be tailored to your specifications.
I want to improve gameplay for everyone, you want to hunt champs when there's no one around and devalue the scrolls and make protecting champs pointless and ruin the game for the majority.
 

icm420

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We have pretty interesting fights as it is, I understand your point and it wouldn't effect a whole lot in terms of scrolls, if anything it would make them more valuable. But this is going to end up with one or two guilds controlling champ spawns again. I fight solo almost all the time, I have a hard time fighting 4+ people at once, but I am more capable in areas such as champ spawns and dungeons vs yew gate. To make the best area to fight in only available a few hours a day is stupid to me. Also don't knock the late night pvp, chessy used to have a really good late night pvp group and we would frequently fight in despise/pop a harry and fight until shard down. People have odd schedules due to work, etc.

What we should be working on is how to revitialize dead dungeons. Shame, Wrong, Ice, etc are always empty and offer no reason to go there. It would be nice to have a reason to go into dungeons you havn't been in in years other then the harrower was popped there.
 

Cirno

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I want to improve gameplay for everyone, you want to hunt champs when there's no one around and devalue the scrolls and make protecting champs pointless and ruin the game for the majority.
I think the majority of players would prefer that power scrolls were more affordable, and not primarily lodged in the pockets of a not-majority of people.
I don't see where there is any improvement to gameplay by saying simply "you can not play this part of the game at this time"

The argument that one could do champs on another shard assumes a sufficient connection to that shard, developed characters on that shard, and would require some manner of transferring to bring the rewards back to the home shard.
That seems decidedly not like a gameplay improvement.
 

Klapauc

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I want to improve gameplay for everyone, you want to hunt champs when there's no one around and devalue the scrolls and make protecting champs pointless and ruin the game for the majority.
The majority of players and uo as a whole profit more from cheap scrolls, because thats exactly what is needed to keep the few new players we got and enables them to close the big gap to the veterans.
I really do not care if it devalues scrolls for a few if the majority of players profits from the lower prices.

Actually quite funny that a person that is known for raiding peoples champ the last possible moment has the balls to come up with such a ridiculous request.
 

Mervyn

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I think the majority of players would prefer that power scrolls were more affordable, and not primarily lodged in the pockets of a not-majority of people.
I don't see where there is any improvement to gameplay by saying simply "you can not play this part of the game at this time"

The argument that one could do champs on another shard assumes a sufficient connection to that shard, developed characters on that shard, and would require some manner of transferring to bring the rewards back to the home shard.
That seems decidedly not like a gameplay improvement.
So...does this mean that the EM events should be repeated 24 hours a day 7 days a week and all the rares should be available all the time?
 

Surgeries

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Mervyn...here's a little something I dug up...from another thread...your words:

I can still give people murder counts if they use magic reflect, you still lose stats from your armor and lose someone on tracking when entering/exiting a dungeon, you can bug yourself so you can't be fizzled with weaken if you evil omen and weaken yourself, the harrower tents still spawn behind walls despite a note in the patch saying they fixed it. And you want this fixed?
LOL...I don't do Champs, but because someone figured out how to get them done without you around...you want this fixed, to cater to your idea of entitlement and God Given Right to Raid? And YOU want the Devs to fix THAT??!!

Too funny...both sides of the mouth, indeed.

:coco:
 

Cirno

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So...does this mean that the EM events should be repeated 24 hours a day 7 hours a week and all the rares should be available all the time?
If we are talking about the powerscrolls as the end result of the champ, then you are comparing apples and oranges (although both are delicious).
A powerscroll has mechanical utility, whereas the majority of rares and such don't, so comparing them directly doesn't really work.
 

Theo_GL

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So I happened to log on in the small hours of the morning, and obtained data that more champs had been done in the last few hours than in the entire peak time. Most of them were being done by people from other shards (timezones) exploiting the fact that no one is about to challenge them.

I propose that champ should only be able to be popped between 5pm and 11pm in the shards respected timezone. This would also help the Governments directive to discourage kids from staying up so late playing computer games when they have school in the morning.
Ha ha ha! Dumbest idea ever on stratics.

People play each shard from all over the world. Your whine is about 'I cannot control champs 24x7 so shut them down to a time that is convenient for me'. What time do you play? Maybe when your character logs in we can have the champs 'open up' and then when you log off they all shut down. HOw is that?

Ha ha ha - what shard do you play? I have hundreds of scrolls from an overseas shard I need to xshard to go kill a scroll market somewhere. I'd love to kill the market on your shard. Let me know!!
 

Mervyn

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If you don't champ outside the hours of 5pm-11pm then it shouldn't affect you, if you do champ outside these hours, I'd consider you to be a chinese farmer spoiling the market (no offense to real chinese farmers ofcourse)
 

Petra Fyde

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I wonder what that makes the group I used to join some mornings who did a champ at 6am before they went to work?
 

Cirno

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If you don't champ outside the hours of 5pm-11pm then it shouldn't affect you
Except through the increased prices, which lie at the heart of your suggestion, which affects anyone who would buy one.
 

Mervyn

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I wonder what that makes the group I used to join some mornings who did a champ at 6am before they went to work?
I thought of a whole ream of insults, but i'll just settle for early birds :p
 

Uvtha

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I want to improve gameplay for everyone, you want to hunt champs when there's no one around and devalue the scrolls and make protecting champs pointless and ruin the game for the majority.
No, you want to make the game better for people who play when YOU play.
 

virtualhabitat

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So I happened to log on in the small hours of the morning, and obtained data that more champs had been done blah blah blah...
I would be interested in how one obtains such data. Care to share, or is that against the rules?
 

Uvtha

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If you don't champ outside the hours of 5pm-11pm then it shouldn't affect you, if you do champ outside these hours, I'd consider you to be a chinese farmer spoiling the market (no offense to real chinese farmers ofcourse)
That's idiotic. Many people work second and third shift, and as such those people play late nights and early days. Its not JUST some cabal of sinister scroll farmers.
 

RawHeadRex

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i agree with the op... limit champ spawn availability from the top of the hour to four minutes after the hour, then again at the half hour mark to 28 minutes before the hour then from fifteen minutes before the hour to 12 minutes before the hour. This needs to happen only at 3am - 4am daily, all other times champ is not available.


:danceb:
 
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Also crafting and imbuing should be only allowed during mornings for 20 seconds. THis would make player crafted items much more valuable and the game more enjoyable for crafters like me. It would benefit all.

Allowing people to do certain things ingame during only certain times is in general a very good idea. TBH I think servers should be down except for the time OP suggested, it is unfair and not good for the game that everybody can login anytime of the day and do anything they want.
 

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Yeah, I agree with the OP. But why stop there, let's also include recall and gate spells in this. Everyone needs to walk everywhere except during peak traffic times.

:drama:
 

virtualhabitat

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The OP makes a good argument for shutting down shards that obviously can't field enough players to do (N)spawns during prime time.
 

Willard

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Joke---Right???

I am retired so sometimes I am up at 3am and get on to play. I am at a loss of words at how ridiculous this is!
 

AirmidCecht

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Okay who paid Mervyn for this post?

Bueller???

I laughed until I cried at the eager and worrisome responses at the just thought......

wow.
 

Snakeman

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lmao :coco:

Watch out Popps, there's competition brewing :D



(slaps self, I couldn't resist, ima sorry)
 

Lord Frodo

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LOL

The most stupid post of the year contender!
Hands down the STUPIDEST IDEA/POST IN ALL OF UOs HISTORY.

lmao :coco:

Watch out Popps, there's competition brewing :D



(slaps self, I couldn't resist, ima sorry)
Popps is now safe. There is nothing that Popps could say/ask/post that would ever top this.

MODs PLEASE, I repeat, PLEASE wipe this off the boards before someone at EA Corp reads this and thinks this is a good idea. We all know that they have done some stupid things in the past.
 

Ender

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Oh god I don't even know where to start. How about...

I propose that your accounts are all perma-banned, considering you basically admitted to cheating.
 

Mervyn

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Seems a lot of turkeys voting against christmas here. I was going to suggest the champs all be able to be popped just once per day at a peak time or specific time each day. Think some of the responses from the farmers were a bit extreme but i didn't really expect any less. A good idea is a good idea, despite how much cry babies will cry.
 

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Curious Mervyn, which shard do you play? I've been thinking about finding a new shard for champ spawns and your tears are delicious.
 

Roland Of Gilead

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i think the ability to do whatever u want whenever u want is definatly part of uo's charm.I live in usa and play on europa cuz i like the people more there by far but it puts me into playing at off peak times for their time zone-just how it is.Why should i be penalized for that by not being able to champ when i can play...And as far as bringing scroll prices down like most, except maybe the guys that spend all their time getting/selling scrolls,i think thats a good thing. No reason it should take some poor new guy month/years to get enough gold to make his character decent...Stuff like that hurts our chances of keeping new players unless they get lucky an find people like me to help em out...Honestly who can blame em....
 

Mervyn

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Curious Mervyn, which shard do you play? I've been thinking about finding a new shard for champ spawns and your tears are delicious.
If you're coming to my shard between 5pm-11pm, then great, please do come. If you're champing out of normal gaming hours, you're one of the turkeys voting against christmas.
 

Klapauc

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Mervyn you seem to know a lot of things. Especially your ability to tell that people are not from your shard if you see them at a champ impresses me very much.
But you can learn something here. A lot of the people opposing your idea here are not spawn farmers. I know that for sure, and you are wrong on that one.

Oh and im not going to tell where he plays, basically the whole shard is ashamed of him now.
 

Warpig Inc

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Also need to add in that NPCs and vendors can only sell items at peak hours. That way prices don't get ran up or all the good stuff is gone.


Arty drops only happen during peak hours so lame players have experienced players at bosses.


And for the champs only spawn time I think a better time block would be from 11:00PM start spawning to a stop time of 10:59PM
 

Uvtha

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Seems a lot of turkeys voting against christmas here. I was going to suggest the champs all be able to be popped just once per day at a peak time or specific time each day. Think some of the responses from the farmers were a bit extreme but i didn't really expect any less. A good idea is a good idea, despite how much cry babies will cry.
Of course. It can't be that your idea is bad, just that everyone else in the world is wrong.
 
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