koc runs no tamers... none.

[imported_Goron]

After fighting two k0c tamers at one time *again* today, I decided this would be appropriate. (and no, we had NO tamers anywhere)

*EDIT* On a side note, Sal is French Canadian.
*EDIT TWO* Leroy is Canadian too.

 

[Guest]

My only concern about this post is... did you really just look back through almost 5 months worth of pages on our forum to find that...

 

[Guest]

my only concern is that what you just said is going to be your guilds best response to this entire thread, and its still only an attempt to avoid the subject at best.

 

[imported_Goron]

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My only concern about this post is... did you really just look back through almost 5 months worth of pages on our forum to find that...

[/ QUOTE ]
good response- you win.

 

[Guest]

ah dont stop so early, make some further comparisions.

for example the fact that kocs top 3 are mage med and eval. go search eval on your side.
or look how much hiding, ninja, tactics and archery/taming combos you guys must have.
all the remove trappers indicate where your mageryskill comes from.



and since that post was pretty much directed towards me, yes i run a tamer. and to be honest, i wont drop taming for a while, i tried a few other templates including detecters, bards, dexers, mages. the tamer one i run atm is by far the best one to counter stealtharchers and other tamers. next time before you jump on me with at least 7 people, let me know before and what templates you use, if there are no stealthers or tamers, i might actually go swap it first

*EDIT THREE* On a side note, im Swiss xD

 

[imported_Goron]

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next time before you jump on me with at least 7 people, let me know before and what templates you use, if there are no stealthers or tamers, i might actually go swap it first

[/ QUOTE ]
Funny, if I remember the situation it was actually you and Asty that jumped me at luna bank... I was on a scribe mage, no hide or stealth.
Please, explain how that involves us jumping you?

 

[Kat SP]

Don't be silly, Goron. Shak has never given an accurate account of what really happened.

 

[Guest]

hrmmm, not sure. the only one who i was fighting at luna today was erevos. i heard that tek was fighting 5 or 6 of you and killed a few, no clue where he was thoo, he wasnt on map or vent at that time.

i was talking about when i stood near krystals and had all of you jump out on me. just the last fight where a few of you died to asty and me. wasnt around luna bank thoo, started near krystals house, ended around bagball arena.

 

[imported_Goron]

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i was talking about when i stood near krystals and had all of you jump out on me. just the last fight where a few of you died to asty and me. wasnt around luna bank thoo, started near krystals house, ended around bagball arena.

[/ QUOTE ]
Phew, wow, good story, good story.
if it makes you feel good inside pretending that it all didnt start with Asty killing me in luna bank with you right behind him- thats fine.

 

[Guest]

LOL shakaja you are so full of it, you play a tamer because KOC actually wants to make kills and without a tamer KOC wouldn't even be able to leave your house for the 30 mins a day that you can now.

also what happened at Schaffhausen was no accident!

 

[Guest]

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you play a tamer because KOC actually wants to make kills and without a tamer KOC wouldn't even be able to leave your house for the 30 mins a day that you can now.


[/ QUOTE ]

is that why you currently bid on a tamer account? i see xD

 

[Guest]

well i honestly cant remember flagging on you, at least not today. what was i doing then? i know tek was fighting a few of you, he said that over guildchat. i ran to luna east gate and saw erevos there getting ressed. so i kept him down. i didnt see anyone else around so i took some things of erevos. and since i went grey doing that, i had some tamer jump on me so i was fighting that guy.

 

[Sir Ha-ward]

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*EDIT THREE* On a side note, im Swiss xD

[/ QUOTE ]


Nobodys perfect

 

[Guest]

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Don't be silly, Goron. Shak has never given an accurate account of what really happened.

[/ QUOTE ]


i can be accurate for you.

i got attacked by:
krystal, idico, goron, sal manilla, erevos, skia, leroy, not sure if anyone else.

i ran southwest towards bagball area and typed in guildchat that they all flagged on me and if astyrax wants to come help me. when he came in, we killed erevos, skia, leroy, sal manilla. the rest took off and ran back into house while unflagged. at the end puffy and big d came in to help us loot.

accurate enough for you? or did i miss you on the list since you seem to know what happened?

 

[Guest]

LOL shakaja shut it, you just went down a notch for even trying to play that card here, who are you pretending to be shakaja

 

[Guest]

dont bid on tamer accounts if you say such things about tamers. you are the one babbeling all the trammy this trammy that nonsense, just to bid on a tamer account afterwards.


not sure how youd get the idea im pretending to be someone else. do i have to ask who you are pretending to be?

 

[Guest]

Coming from someone whos guild 1 st skill is HIDING......You know you really only need 0.0 hiding in a house

 

[imported_Goron]

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i got attacked by:
krystal, idico, goron, sal manilla, erevos, skia, leroy, not sure if anyone else.

i ran southwest towards bagball area and typed in guildchat that they all flagged on me and if astyrax wants to come help me. when he came in, we killed erevos, skia, leroy, sal manilla. the rest took off and ran back into house while unflagged. at the end puffy and big d came in to help us loot.

accurate enough for you? or did i miss you on the list since you seem to know what happened?

[/ QUOTE ]
Wow... just wow... you act as tho it Asty was not there the whole time. Just cuz he was not on screenw hen we attacked you at one point, doesn't mean he wasnt there. And, we left AFTER D showed up. Keep talkin,

 

[Guest]

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dont bid on tamer accounts if you say such things about tamers. you are the one babbeling all the trammy this trammy that nonsense, just to bid on a tamer account afterwards.


[/ QUOTE ]

LOL you're so ashamed of being a trammy tamer that the first instance i even BID on a tamer account you call me out on it

shakaja, even if i bought and owned and pvped on that tamer account EVERYDAY for the next year i couldnt compete with the number of hours you've logged playing a tamer for PVP.

LOL you crack me up shakaja, little trammie acting big

 

[Guest]

exactly what i said, he wasnt on screen when you jumped on me. i told you flagged on me over guildchat while running around waiting for him to come help. me and him killed the few i mentioned, while we looted, d came up and got a resskill on erevos, then helped looting. after that i didnt see idico or krystal anymore, and you i found sitting in krystals house.

you can keep saying yeah right and keep talking all you want, what about you say your version then?

 

[Lord_Puffy]

51 hiding.... lol how can you fight something you cant see?

 

[Lord_Puffy]

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my only concern is that what you just said is going to be your guilds best response to this entire thread, and its still only an attempt to avoid the subject at best.

[/ QUOTE ]


And then its gonna be all crys when you get flamestriked by 5 mages? It never ends

srsly.

 

[Guest]

how do you get the idea id be ashamed of playing a tamer. or any kind of template that is. you can do a little bit of research and youll see that i always said tamers have their place in pvp as much as any other template. i also kept saying that tamers need to be tuned down, the petball change helped but i proposed more changes before the patch and i still do.

now to get back thoo, it seems to me that you are the one that kept screaming about tamers and how trammy it is to play one (not even gonna say anything about the templates you play/played). and now you bid on a tamer. after what you said, i can only assume that this means you are tired of not being able to leave your house xD

 

[Lord_Puffy]

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Don't be silly, Goron. Shak has never given an accurate account of what really happened.

[/ QUOTE ]

And you have?

 

[Lord_Puffy]

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My only concern about this post is... did you really just look back through almost 5 months worth of pages on our forum to find that...

[/ QUOTE ]
good response- you win.

[/ QUOTE ]

At the time that icq was most definetally accurate... Right now I havnt been on but I know a few people are playing tamers now... Why not its been tamer wars since superdragons it seems.

 

[Lord_Puffy]

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LOL shakaja shut it, you just went down a notch for even trying to play that card here, who are you pretending to be shakaja

[/ QUOTE ]


I dont know mr 4 popped collars. you tell us you seem to know everything.

 

[imported_Goron]

lol.
My version? Ok... Asty jumped me (I was alone, not even stealthers with me) at luna bank with you right behidn him. Me=dead. A couple tnt showed and tried to scare ya'll off, but it proves difficult to 'scare' a super dragon.

A bit later we flag on you outside Krystal's, you run like the wind. Asty, who was just a few screns away showed up immediatly. We proceeded to chace you around for a solid many minutes until you and Asty managed to drop two of us. D shows up with more pets, puffy right behind him. We decide to leave.

Notice our stories are similiar in the fact that you did kill a few of us. But you didnt do it solo, you didnt do it in defense, and it was after a long period of fighting.

 

[imported_Goron]

<blockquote><hr>

Why not its been tamer wars since superdragons it seems.

[/ QUOTE ]huh, funny. I don;t recall us having a single tamer fighting... lets see if Shak will at least admit to that fact.
Doesn't Asty run hide? wow puffy, you just can't admit you guys run these templates too, can you?

 

[Guest]

that must have been someone else then on the first one. the only tnt i saw in luna today was erevos ressing and goodcry and tide jumping on me while i was sitting at the bank talking to someone. i didnt see you dead anywhere nor did i see any tnts try to scare me off (unless ressing erevos was) nor did i see asty fighting anyone in luna


on the second part, can you tell me exactly where i said i did any killing or fighting by myself or how long the fight lasted? as far as didnt do it in defense. you guys attacked me and jumped on me out of hiding/a house. how exactly wouldnt that be in defense?
as far as you guys leaving when they were already there, i can tell you me and asty were standing over 2 bodies looting when big d came in, erevos came back in and big d got the resskill off. a bit after that puffy came in. i havent seen you at that point for quite a while already, so i assume you left. krystal i havent seen anymore neither. what idico did, hell what would i know. he might have stealthed around us. if him stealthing out after everyone was there is called you guys leaving after we were all there, well then so be it :/

 

[Lord_Puffy]

come out and play

instead of u and GG sitting in ur houses talking all this crap.

 

[Lord_Puffy]

<blockquote><hr>

<blockquote><hr>

Why not its been tamer wars since superdragons it seems.

[/ QUOTE ]huh, funny. I don;t recall us having a single tamer fighting... lets see if Shak will at least admit to that fact.
Doesn't Asty run hide? wow puffy, you just can't admit you guys run these templates too, can you?

[/ QUOTE ]

I just did but your bringing up things for like december of 07..... dig deeper?

 

[Guest]

<blockquote><hr>

<blockquote><hr>

Why not its been tamer wars since superdragons it seems.

[/ QUOTE ]huh, funny. I don;t recall us having a single tamer fighting... lets see if Shak will at least admit to that fact.
Doesn't Asty run hide? wow puffy, you just can't admit you guys run these templates too, can you?

[/ QUOTE ]


as i said in the beginning, icq me all your templates and i might go change it before you jump on me next time. and indeed you didnt have tamers there this time. but like i said, i will keep playing the tamer for a while now as its the best defense against stealthers and tamers. and eventhoo you didnt have any tamers, you still had plenty of stealthers, so i would have stayed on the template anyways. whats funny thoo you guys always make it sound like you dont run tamers at all.

might i remind you of a few names? for example scot, razi, one eye or sprago? not sure about you but all of them attacked me with pets in the last 7 days, maybe you run more tamers than you think? and you see, i dont even name people like hattori (the guy who kept justifying running a super dragon in pvp) that i havent seen for a while?

and yes, asty definitely has hiding and stealth. the funny part thoo is do you see him fight? on foot? against 3-4 of you? hes not smokebombing or running away. hes killing people by himself

 

[Sir Ha-ward]

 

[Sir Ha-ward]

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LOL shakaja shut it, you just went down a notch for even trying to play that card here, who are you pretending to be shakaja




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I dont know mr 4 popped collars. you tell us you seem to know everything.

[/ QUOTE ]

 

[Guest]

I am sorry Goron I just do not believe your story You may have been alone at the time you attacked but I will bet everything on it that you had people with you or was calling them to come as soon as you seen whoever you was attacking

I have never seen you attacking anyone alone reason being... you are a horrible pvper... So don't say you had intentions of fighting someone solo because you never do... you know you are not good at pvp its ok you can tell us....

 

[Guest]

hey now stop being rude, hes better than most of his guildies.

 

[imported_Goron]

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I am sorry Goron I just do not believe your story You may have been alone at the time you attacked

[/ QUOTE ]When did I ever say I was alone when I attacked? Read the thread. I said I was alone when Asty attacked me.

<blockquote><hr>

but I will bet everything on it that you had people with you or was calling them to come as soon as you seen whoever you was attacking

[/ QUOTE ]Sure I called for help when Asty killed me, I needed a res. Whats wrong with that? Even Shak admits to calling for help when we attacked him outside Krystals

<blockquote><hr>

I have never seen you attacking anyone alone

[/ QUOTE ]Well, I guess I have just never attacked you alone then huh?. Go ask your buddy Tek, I used to die to him all the time solo. I bet even Puffy can remember at least one or two times I fought him alone.
<blockquote><hr>

reason being... you are a horrible pvper...

[/ QUOTE ]did it take you this long to realize that?
<blockquote><hr>

So don't say you had intentions of fighting someone solo because you never do...

[/ QUOTE ]Well, I never once in this thread said I had intentions to fight solo, again, read the thread before you make a fool of yourself.
<blockquote><hr>

you know you are not good at pvp its ok you can tell us....

[/ QUOTE ]lol, i bet if you look at my last 10 posts at least two have included me saying I am not very good at pvp- but if you need to hear it again- if it makes you feel special inside- "I am not very good at pvp".

Not sure why you are trying to hurt me like this, but you can try all you want- thats what makes stratics fun.

 

[Yenji Yasagari]

Now if I remember this right, four people ran out of the TnT house after Shakaja, and he ran into ninja form, got away, and then asty came and I looted three different corpses around that bagball area. Four of you, where is the teamwork in that guild anyways. If one tamer is surviving a four man gank squad, you guys have a problem that goes far beyond running no tamers. Maybe you should all make them, because I cannot foresee you killing any other way.

*Edit* Except Rez Killing of Course*

 

[Lord_Puffy]

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Now if I remember this right, four people ran out of the TnT house after Shakaja, and he ran into ninja form, got away, and then asty came and I looted three different corpses around that bagball area. Four of you, where is the teamwork in that guild anyways. If one tamer is surviving a four man gank squad, you guys have a problem that goes far beyond running no tamers. Maybe you should all make them, because I cannot foresee you killing any other way.

*Edit* Except Rez Killing of Course*

[/ QUOTE ]


LOWELL! thats too much right there

and yes they are awesome ress killers

 

[imported_EREVOS]

To clear up some things.
There were two battles yesterday ( when I was on).
First fight in luna bank. Goron, with his mage, died from Astynax (stealther –ninza-bushido) and William Wallace.
He called for some help and I ran there with Krystal.
Suddenly, I saw shackaja with his dragon and after that the screen become grey (OoooooOooo).
I resurrected by healers and I went to my corpse.
I waited for 2min to unflag and then I tried to go to umbra.
Shackaja and Astynax attacked me in the luna moongate but I succeed to escape with 2 hp.
Unfortunately, Astynax followed me in umbra and res kill me (I admit this
guy knows how to fight people in stat with 2hp and naked).
Second fight: Shackaja was outside of Krystals house with his dragon.
We decided to attack him. He ran red-lined (and very fast for me to follow)
to the arena outside of luna and there he called his dragon back.
Meanwhile, Astynax was already there. Me and other three we left our corpses there
( the combo “bola-all kill” is too hard, for me at least).
I became res and tried to collect my corpse but Vitamin D came and res killed me.
When the rest of us heard that D was there too with a mare and a beatle, they left.

P.S. I respect all the templates (stealthers, tamers, warriors, mages) and everyone plays whatever he wants.
My opinion is that with the superdragons the pvp is totally unbalance.
But the worst part of all is when a tamer order his pet to attacked me I flag automatically the pet,
not the tamer and then the pvp becomes pvm.

EDIT #4 : Erevos is Greek XD

 

[Sir Ha-ward]

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LOL shakaja shut it, you just went down a notch for even trying to play that card here, who are you pretending to be shakaja


[/ QUOTE ]


*deleted*

dam mods

 

[Lord_Puffy]

and today Goron/Strangelove Skia Abel and Erevos vs me

no tamers there

the 5 of us know what happened

 

[imported_dexdash]

<blockquote><hr>

To clear up some things.
There were two battles yesterday ( when I was on).
First fight in luna bank. Goron, with his mage, died from Astynax (stealther –ninza-bushido) and William Wallace.
He called for some help and I ran there with Krystal.
Suddenly, I saw shackaja with his dragon and after that the screen become grey (OoooooOooo).
I resurrected by healers and I went to my corpse.
I waited for 2min to unflag and then I tried to go to umbra.
Shackaja and Astynax attacked me in the luna moongate but I succeed to escape with 2 hp.
Unfortunately, Astynax followed me in umbra and res kill me (I admit this
guy knows how to fight people in stat with 2hp and naked).
Second fight: Shackaja was outside of Krystals house with his dragon.
We decided to attack him. He ran red-lined (and very fast for me to follow)
to the arena outside of luna and there he called his dragon back.
Meanwhile, Astynax was already there. Me and other three we left our corpses there
( the combo “bola-all kill” is too hard, for me at least).
I became res and tried to collect my corpse but Vitamin D came and res killed me.
When the rest of us heard that D was there too with a mare and a beatle, they left.

P.S. I respect all the templates (stealthers, tamers, warriors, mages) and everyone plays whatever he wants.
My opinion is that with the superdragons the pvp is totally unbalance.
But the worst part of all is when a tamer order his pet to attacked me I flag automatically the pet,
not the tamer and then the pvp becomes pvm.

EDIT #4 : Erevos is Greek XD


[/ QUOTE ]


"smack a little talk" Gank a little Gank" Get down tonight!

(disclaimer-this is not a troll just the comic relief for the thread)

Erevos- i love it when you talk dirty

 

[imported_EREVOS]

<blockquote><hr>

and today Goron/Strangelove Skia Abel and Erevos vs me no tamers there

the 5 of us know what happened

[/ QUOTE ]

Indeed.... good fight....
but you must admit that you can have a nice fight and a clear victory even without pets.

(P.S. We might lost a fight, but we made a point

)

EDIT No5:On a side note Skia is also Greek

 

[Lord_Puffy]

hahaa i know bro, was fun least someone got my drift.... and as far as proving a point.... i think we proved one as well, we dont NEED tamers to win

 

[imported_Goron]

<blockquote><hr>

i think we proved one as well, we dont NEED tamers to win

[/ QUOTE ]I never said otherwise. I don't think anyone said otherwise. You still won fights when you didn't run tamers up the wazoo.

The initial purpose of my post was to make it clear that at one time you specifically, puffy, were (whining/complaining/discussing the abuse of/disliking/wanting change about/[insert whatever word/phrase/term here]) tamers all the time. You talked how you guys never ran them and they were bad for pvp and we sucked because thats all we did. Well, now thats completely reversed. We don't run tamers in pvp hardly at all. Now, you guys do very frequently. Where is your complaining/productive discussion/moaning now?

Rather, you guys just talk more smack about owning me. Look at Kage, he goes out of his way to troll and say I suck at pvp as a mage. Well, the only reason I die all the time as a mage now, is because I switched off tamer in an effort to help the pvp community migrate from stealth/tame.

I could always move to wrestle,parry, tame,lore,vet,ninja +bola. I'm sure I would live longer, die less, and actually kill more than I do as a mage. But, I am havin fun as a mage- so ill stick with it for now. Feel free to keep ****talking me kage, it keeps my stratics experience more interesting.

 

[Guest]

I only [censored] talk those who come to the boards crying about KOC on a daily basis...

 

[imported_Goron]

lol, look at ur most recent posts,... notice the threads:
'TNT', 'WOW TNT', 'After about 10 minutes'
These are all started by you in the last 6 days. Go ahead and look at my history sweetiepie... discuss.

 

[Lord_Puffy]

<blockquote><hr>

lol, look at ur most recent posts,... notice the threads:
'TNT', 'WOW TNT', 'After about 10 minutes'
These are all started by you in the last 6 days. Go ahead and look at my history sweetiepie... discuss.

[/ QUOTE ]


Na we dont bring p december 07 like you

dig deeper?

 

[Guest]

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I only [censored] talk

[/ QUOTE ]

there fixed for you