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People seem to be reading part of the new letter from Cal as meaning KR will be ignored by you guys. Mind clearing things up before people get out of control either way?
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Jeremy: Official word? *answer is on pg 2, by Drac*
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I'll second this.
I'll second this.
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Yes we want an answer to this please.DAMNIT !!!
Dont let us in the dark like this !
Dont let us in the dark like this !
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*volunteers to represent the "People Who Have No Idea What This Letter Is"*
Err.. quick link or something.. what exactly is this in reference to? I think I missed something..
Err.. quick link or something.. what exactly is this in reference to? I think I missed something..
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I took the fact that KR wasn't included in the present event to mean that they simply don't have the staff to work on two clients anymore and that we should all go back to 2D/legacy. My only hope is they implement the features into the old client :/
I don't think they are ready to make an official statement about it though.
I don't think they are ready to make an official statement about it though.
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Except, as I must state AGAIN, they said themselves a year ago that this was designed as 2D only.. nothing has been touched since then with it so I don't see why that would change.
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Let's just say that a certain... mindset... created the initial spin, however, we just got two rather LONG "state of the game" posts from head peeps and not even a single mention of KR was made in the slightest. Couple that with months of lack of ANY kind of movement on KR (the last patch I really "count" was the 800 Meg one on Feb 7 2008 (The March 20th patch doesn't count in my book as it was the same patch 2d received and did not focus on development of the KR client as per the previous patches) and we REALLY need some sort of statement.
I'm as big of a UO and KR fanboy as you can get, but this does NOT leave a good impression as to the direction of UO or KR.
What the Dev Team needs to do is make SOMEONE lead dev of the KR client and have them and at least a couple others focus on that while the rest of the team focus on the events and story arc.
Let's just say that a certain... mindset... created the initial spin, however, we just got two rather LONG "state of the game" posts from head peeps and not even a single mention of KR was made in the slightest. Couple that with months of lack of ANY kind of movement on KR (the last patch I really "count" was the 800 Meg one on Feb 7 2008 (The March 20th patch doesn't count in my book as it was the same patch 2d received and did not focus on development of the KR client as per the previous patches) and we REALLY need some sort of statement.
I'm as big of a UO and KR fanboy as you can get, but this does NOT leave a good impression as to the direction of UO or KR.
What the Dev Team needs to do is make SOMEONE lead dev of the KR client and have them and at least a couple others focus on that while the rest of the team focus on the events and story arc.
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No.
No.
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Well to all you kr lovers byebye oh can i have yur stuff lol
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I was waiting for a post like that...
No you cant - I push really comes to shove - I will be giving it to people I have played with for years not [censored] like you...
Well to all you kr lovers byebye oh can i have yur stuff lol
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I was waiting for a post like that...
No you cant - I push really comes to shove - I will be giving it to people I have played with for years not [censored] like you...
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If/when I do leave (assuming that it happens before UO closes for good), I'll be converting everything to gold, then selling the gold and my houses, then deleting characters and finally closing the account.
Noone gets my characters, and noone gets my stuff for free.
If/when I do leave (assuming that it happens before UO closes for good), I'll be converting everything to gold, then selling the gold and my houses, then deleting characters and finally closing the account.
Noone gets my characters, and noone gets my stuff for free.
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What the Dev Team needs to do is make SOMEONE lead dev of the KR client and have them and at least a couple others focus on that while the rest of the team focus on the events and story arc.
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Seems like they don't have enough people to me.
What the Dev Team needs to do is make SOMEONE lead dev of the KR client and have them and at least a couple others focus on that while the rest of the team focus on the events and story arc.
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Seems like they don't have enough people to me.
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I get the same feeling as well.
But then that's what happens when you spend so much time a year ago bragging on how much the team has grown, what investments have been made and so on, then have a huge move that drops a LOT of team members for one reason or another, then say NOTHING about new team members (aside from maybe one or two people).
The perception of strength right now compared to last year just isn't nearly as good.
I get the same feeling as well.
But then that's what happens when you spend so much time a year ago bragging on how much the team has grown, what investments have been made and so on, then have a huge move that drops a LOT of team members for one reason or another, then say NOTHING about new team members (aside from maybe one or two people).
The perception of strength right now compared to last year just isn't nearly as good.
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People seem to be reading part of the new letter from Cal as meaning KR will be ignored by you guys. Mind clearing things up before people get out of control either way?
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I'm curious about the FOF. Does Cal pre-empt the FOF? Was that a pre-emptive FOF? Don't make sense. Everyone at a EA has different roles.
First, just spell out what the FOF is, and then produce it every week. WEek after week. Sounds icky, doesn't it. Like a never ending weekly report. For the next 15 years!!! A weekly report. EWWWW! Hahahaha. Sucks to be you, but it keeps us in beer and billiards, don't it? I do that every week and it blows. It is like a job and I hate it.
Give us specific guidelines as to what will be contained in there and we will try to post appropriate questions. Think of it as a quarterly shareholder report, but weekly, because it is called the Five on Friday. As in every Friday.
Anyway, if it sucks so bad, call it the FETF. The Five Every Two Fridays and you will buy yourself an extra 7 days (is that right, or is 10?).
Weekly reports blow. I just hope to make it into the middle some day and then everything will be gravy.
Anyway, Official EA (or is it Stratics?) guidelines for the FOF (or FETF) will help us understand why we are gypped when our questions don't get answered. You could say something like... "The FOF only handles specific gameplay, or in-game questions. The FOF does not handle questions about expansions, account issues, or clients."
Once you post that... post it so it's visible on your FOF Questions page, so everyone knows what they are in for.
EDIT: You guys don't have a FOF questions page yet, do you? That will blow even more for the FOF person. But it needs to be created with specific guidelines. We here in UO love rules and laws and TOFs and BOFs so you better make that FOFs page and then make FOFsR page. The R is for rules.
2ndEDIT: Reworked a comma.
People seem to be reading part of the new letter from Cal as meaning KR will be ignored by you guys. Mind clearing things up before people get out of control either way?
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I'm curious about the FOF. Does Cal pre-empt the FOF? Was that a pre-emptive FOF? Don't make sense. Everyone at a EA has different roles.
First, just spell out what the FOF is, and then produce it every week. WEek after week. Sounds icky, doesn't it. Like a never ending weekly report. For the next 15 years!!! A weekly report. EWWWW! Hahahaha. Sucks to be you, but it keeps us in beer and billiards, don't it? I do that every week and it blows. It is like a job and I hate it.
Give us specific guidelines as to what will be contained in there and we will try to post appropriate questions. Think of it as a quarterly shareholder report, but weekly, because it is called the Five on Friday. As in every Friday.
Anyway, if it sucks so bad, call it the FETF. The Five Every Two Fridays and you will buy yourself an extra 7 days (is that right, or is 10?).
Weekly reports blow. I just hope to make it into the middle some day and then everything will be gravy.
Anyway, Official EA (or is it Stratics?) guidelines for the FOF (or FETF) will help us understand why we are gypped when our questions don't get answered. You could say something like... "The FOF only handles specific gameplay, or in-game questions. The FOF does not handle questions about expansions, account issues, or clients."
Once you post that... post it so it's visible on your FOF Questions page, so everyone knows what they are in for.
EDIT: You guys don't have a FOF questions page yet, do you? That will blow even more for the FOF person. But it needs to be created with specific guidelines. We here in UO love rules and laws and TOFs and BOFs so you better make that FOFs page and then make FOFsR page. The R is for rules.
2ndEDIT: Reworked a comma.
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Well whatever it looks like 3 x 33 days for me now :
33 waiting
33 passing my guild the news I am quitting and the guild is going to be disbanded...
33 days emptying account (giving things away and then finally deleting chars
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33 waiting
33 passing my guild the news I am quitting and the guild is going to be disbanded...
33 days emptying account (giving things away and then finally deleting chars
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But then that's what happens when you spend so much time a year ago bragging on how much the team has grown, what investments have been made and so on, then have a huge move that drops a LOT of team members for one reason or another, then say NOTHING about new team members (aside from maybe one or two people).
The perception of strength right now compared to last year just isn't nearly as good.
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Also not loving the whole EA Mythic presents WARHAMMER ONLINE, oh and I think theres one or two other games dragging around here someplace as well.
I mean we don't even have a dedicated team. They work on 2 other games as well. Unless I misunderstood the post made earlier.
But then that's what happens when you spend so much time a year ago bragging on how much the team has grown, what investments have been made and so on, then have a huge move that drops a LOT of team members for one reason or another, then say NOTHING about new team members (aside from maybe one or two people).
The perception of strength right now compared to last year just isn't nearly as good.
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Also not loving the whole EA Mythic presents WARHAMMER ONLINE, oh and I think theres one or two other games dragging around here someplace as well.
I mean we don't even have a dedicated team. They work on 2 other games as well. Unless I misunderstood the post made earlier.
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*worries that our collective credibility in reading comprehension is taking a hit*
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Also not loving the whole EA Mythic presents WARHAMMER ONLINE, oh and I think theres one or two other games dragging around here someplace as well.
I mean we don't even have a dedicated team. They work on 2 other games as well. Unless I misunderstood the post made earlier.
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That's the way I read it.
Also not loving the whole EA Mythic presents WARHAMMER ONLINE, oh and I think theres one or two other games dragging around here someplace as well.
I mean we don't even have a dedicated team. They work on 2 other games as well. Unless I misunderstood the post made earlier.
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That's the way I read it.
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Also not loving the whole EA Mythic presents WARHAMMER ONLINE, oh and I think theres one or two other games dragging around here someplace as well.
I mean we don't even have a dedicated team. They work on 2 other games as well. Unless I misunderstood the post made earlier.
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That's the way I read it.
[/ QUOTE ]The UO team doesn't work on Warhammer or Dark Age, only UO.
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Also not loving the whole EA Mythic presents WARHAMMER ONLINE, oh and I think theres one or two other games dragging around here someplace as well.
I mean we don't even have a dedicated team. They work on 2 other games as well. Unless I misunderstood the post made earlier.
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That's the way I read it.
[/ QUOTE ]The UO team doesn't work on Warhammer or Dark Age, only UO.
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You can answer that, but not the other, far more pressing issue here? Doesn't seem so good. T_T
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It's being read that way because of
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“… Business as usual, but you know it's that stinky EA business. While it's plausible Ultima Online will benefit from this move later down the road; thanks to more resources available under one roof, all the UO and DAOC devs doing quality assurance on Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, that sort of thing.... "
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“… Business as usual, but you know it's that stinky EA business. While it's plausible Ultima Online will benefit from this move later down the road; thanks to more resources available under one roof, all the UO and DAOC devs doing quality assurance on Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, that sort of thing.... "
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It actually wouldn't bother me if they were helping out with Warhammer. I'm more bothered about the lack of KR updates and/or info.
It actually wouldn't bother me if they were helping out with Warhammer. I'm more bothered about the lack of KR updates and/or info.
so if kr is dead can we have 3d back??
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Only way this game has a future is if he says we're wrong.. not because I think KR is the way forward (which I still do), but because people seeing the devs floundering on their support of their own programming again could very probably kill it. Only way to salvage that would be to just answer.. people seeing blunt honesty might give a bit of a boost, oddly enough.
He damn well better give an answer.. if it's "you're wrong", we calm down and move on. If it's "you're right" we do the same.. just.. away from this game. For once i'd like to see someone willing to just tell the damn truth.
He damn well better give an answer.. if it's "you're wrong", we calm down and move on. If it's "you're right" we do the same.. just.. away from this game. For once i'd like to see someone willing to just tell the damn truth.
Well honestly guys, the fact that they haven't jumped right in here and assured that patches are coming probably means that it is, in the very least, in debate.
Then again, it's Friday night and the devs are home with their families... watching Battlestar Galactica and sipping beer/wine/liquor...
I really hope KR isn't getting dumped. That would be tragic IMO. It has so much potential to be great...
Then again, it's Friday night and the devs are home with their families... watching Battlestar Galactica and sipping beer/wine/liquor...
I really hope KR isn't getting dumped. That would be tragic IMO. It has so much potential to be great...
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You can answer that, but not the other, far more pressing issue here? Doesn't seem so good. T_T
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Yes, KR won't be ignored. You shouldn't read Calvin's letter that way.
You can answer that, but not the other, far more pressing issue here? Doesn't seem so good. T_T
[/ QUOTE ]Oh, sorry, was eating dinner
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Thank god. Don't go 'scarin the ***k out of us like that.
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I'd like to hear an answer too, but I see no reason to panic. The only conclusion I can draw from their silence is they can't talk about it right now. Why that is I do not know, so I will remain patient and hope they will finish KR so it can realize its potential.
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Yes, KR won't be ignored.
That was the main thing we wanted to hear.
Just so we know that SOMETHING is being done for it to help it progress.
Yes, KR won't be ignored.
That was the main thing we wanted to hear.
Just so we know that SOMETHING is being done for it to help it progress.
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All I wanted to hear, I thought too KR was being abandoned...happy it seems as it is not!
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OK, I can't say I know it for certain. But after the above I'd put a dime against a doughnut that Draconi plays GL.
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Geez........ careful people..... they may go back to the policy where we go for weeks/months without any news or any word.
Try not to jump to conclusions........
I rather like the idea of hearing from the EA people from time to time........
Try not to jump to conclusions........
I rather like the idea of hearing from the EA people from time to time........
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The funny part is you're like one patch from me becoming a KR user, but I still can't RP with it because you cut all the emotes from overhead, won't let us use individual chat colors, and won't let us choose a non-stupid font. Instead it's "Hey, we put in a body sculptor!"
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I was waiting for a post like that...
No you cant - I push really comes to shove - I will be giving it to people I have played with for years not [censored] like you...
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Well I, for one, hope you continue to post here for a long time to come.
I was waiting for a post like that...
No you cant - I push really comes to shove - I will be giving it to people I have played with for years not [censored] like you...
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Well I, for one, hope you continue to post here for a long time to come.
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Bye.
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You can answer that, but not the other, far more pressing issue here? Doesn't seem so good. T_T
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Yes, KR won't be ignored. You shouldn't read Calvin's letter that way.
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Thank you for the clarification.
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You can answer that, but not the other, far more pressing issue here? Doesn't seem so good. T_T
[/ QUOTE ]Oh, sorry, was eating dinner
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Thank you for the clarification.
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[/ QUOTE ]The UO team doesn't work on Warhammer or Dark Age, only UO.
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Unless you count the producer. Isn't that a pretty important job?
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Unless you count the producer. Isn't that a pretty important job?
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good news eh? Relieved? I am
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Yes, KR won't be ignored.
That was the main thing we wanted to hear.
Just so we know that SOMETHING is being done for it to help it progress.
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Yes, KR won't be ignored.
That was the main thing we wanted to hear.
Just so we know that SOMETHING is being done for it to help it progress.
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I say a prayer each night to God that somehow/someway/someone can save UO for all mankind.
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[/ QUOTE ]The UO team doesn't work on Warhammer or Dark Age, only UO.
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Unless you count the producer. Isn't that a pretty important job?
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Uh...no.
[/ QUOTE ]The UO team doesn't work on Warhammer or Dark Age, only UO.
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Unless you count the producer. Isn't that a pretty important job?
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Uh...no.
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Why that is I do not know
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Probably lawyers.
You can be sued for the most rediculous things these days.
Why that is I do not know
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Probably lawyers.
You can be sued for the most rediculous things these days.
quit then.
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Heh, I will apologize if I said anything that appeared to be a bash on Drac. I like his vision for UO quite a bit. I will take his postings at face value and assume(ruh roh) that he had not had ample time to read up on all the confusion occurring over a couple of threads before his first post, and so misunderstood the heart of our concerns.
My response was a simple jab at the man, aimed really more at the players ON GL than at him, because even doing it unwittingly so he did indeed....
...feed the drama, even if only for 5 mins.
I expect LL or any number of other GL die hards will step in to slam me now. I assure one and all t'was all in fun at the relief I got from his posted assurances, and would implore them not to go changing. They are very creative and very passionate about their style of play. And that, is a good thing.
My response was a simple jab at the man, aimed really more at the players ON GL than at him, because even doing it unwittingly so he did indeed....
...feed the drama, even if only for 5 mins.
I expect LL or any number of other GL die hards will step in to slam me now. I assure one and all t'was all in fun at the relief I got from his posted assurances, and would implore them not to go changing. They are very creative and very passionate about their style of play. And that, is a good thing.