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Items going poof in houses due to tent spawns

Kas Althume

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Hello,

ever since the tents keep spawning with the gypsy spawn they are messing with my decoration. Either the items i locked down and lifted up with the decoration tool drop to the floor (loosing z-achsis informations) or they vanish completely.

The items go poof when the tent vanishes. This time it was a tent that spawned under the left wing of my tower.


... lamp Post and a piece of the hedge missing ...

Comeon devs, its going on for months and still no fix. Iam sure not to be the first one to report this. The tents spawn partways within my house. I have gypsy deco in my tower when that happens. Every now and then a gypsy is walking within the private tower.
 
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Babble

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Isn't that a known bug for months, or rather since the gypsy tents were reintroduced?
 

covert

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Uh...something I'd likely fix as soon as I heard about it.
 

JC the Builder

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Why did they even bring back the tents in the first place? They just end up blocking stuff. It was better when they were off.
 
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canary

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Why did they even bring back the tents in the first place? They just end up blocking stuff. It was better when they were off.
Have to agree with this, it was ridiculous to bring them back pretty much just for a 1 in 25,000 shot at a piece of jewelry. IMO a real waste of coding time.
 

Merion

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the tents are pretty, I like them. But that bug sounds nasty and ought to be fixed.
 

Kas Althume

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This bug was already around when they disabled the tent spawns. Back then i lost a couple containers aswell in a selfmade mode. The only thing to proof the GMs that i just didnt forget to lock the stuff was, that my placed tapestries got delted half way (looked like someone had cut the tapestries in two parts and stole only 1 part). I though because of those bugs they had finally disabled the tents and now it happens again, even in old style homes.
 
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Babble

Guest
I think the bug only happens on the wings of towers.
Don't put any deco there?
 
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Sevin0oo0

Guest
> tapestries got deleted half way - insta-rares? It has it's possibilities.
 

Raptor85

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I don't care too much about the tents spawning, but I have to agree it would be nice if they didn't spawn near houses or gates, on siege or on fel in prodo shards when it spawns ON the gate and the gypsies are freaking standing in front of it it's impossible to move (and it happens often enough,especially noticeable as I have a house at brit gate)

It's sloppy work that causes stuff like this...If I wrote software of the quality that comes out of EA/Mythic I'd be fired in a heartbeat.
 

Smoot

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Wonderful addition of functional npcs to the game! Of course Gypsies sneak into your house and steal, because... well they're gypsies :p
 

Lady Storm

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I agree with the OP.

The tents are pretty and I do like them, but I have had them spawn around many of my homes in fel, things come up missing or poofed... then there is the Gypsys/RED spawn that happens to drop npc's in my house. Its kind of anoying to get clobbered in your own house.
They dont pop outside quickly, not sure if its lag or what. Odd thing is I get shepards too and flocks drop in as well.
So far nothing I cant aford to loose is gone..plants I can replace, its the rares I care and worry over.
It be find if UO replaced what is taken like wow but we all know uo wont even think of it.
 

Ahuaeyjnkxs

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You're really funny.:lol: You even called me kiddo.

Edit ; I like you because you know how to remain positive and make people laugh.
 

Ox AO

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Tents never stopped spawning for the last decade. The only allowed them to stay longer when the spawn takes place.
 

Ahuaeyjnkxs

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They spawn in strange places, why don't they just edit them ?

It takes about 5 minutes.
 

Kas Althume

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After waking up today i noticed the next thing missing. Thats just 3 days since the last gypsi looters visited my shack. ;(

 

Kas Althume

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Ah well ... seems my fishing shack on Ice Island isn't save either. Where in this bug ridden game is it save to actually have a house without items getting deleted because of the surrounding spawn? This time it seems a chest from an orc camp took away parts of my rug...

 

G.v.P

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This bug was already around when they disabled the tent spawns. Back then i lost a couple containers aswell in a selfmade mode. The only thing to proof the GMs that i just didnt forget to lock the stuff was, that my placed tapestries got delted half way (looked like someone had cut the tapestries in two parts and stole only 1 part). I though because of those bugs they had finally disabled the tents and now it happens again, even in old style homes.
EA should really disable tents until they can fix this bug :/ sounds pretty nasty ... and i thought sewer rats were bad
 

QueenZen

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Also related to gypsies spawning right atop our homes or porches, my properly placed homes become ... improperly placed temporarily. Freaked me out first time I saw that my properly placed homes suddenly became improperly placed. I had a feeling though it was their tents and right after they left, I rechecked several times...and once they are GONE my homes become as they were Properly Placed...till the next spawn.

This is very confusing to my house not to mention it feels wear and tear zipping back and forth every fifteen mins or more oft from properly to improperly placed...depending where they throw up their tents in my yard/home/porch etc. !
 
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UOKaiser

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Have to agree with this, it was ridiculous to bring them back pretty much just for a 1 in 25,000 shot at a piece of jewelry. IMO a real waste of coding time.
I agree with the tents though disagree with the 1 in 25,000 shot That part makes it great the reason till this day there is mass murder of gypsies in all the lands. It's a truly uncommon item and as all uncommon items are highly desireble for the collector. If it was a sure thing then there will be no more mass murders and the world will be overflowed with gypsies well kindof.
 
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Sevin0oo0

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pm mesanna here, isn't she the house specialist? They can, and have, moved/modified individual spawn points. I don't understand why it's not being done, since items are being lost
 

Raptor85

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Ok, the possibility of losing things in that corner of a keep worries me....that's where I have all my arti and rares chests. Time for everyone to just pile all their chests in the center of the keep for a few years until this bug is looked into than ignored.
 

Skrag

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Why were these tent spawns not disabled the very day this bug was reported? Why did gypsy spawns suddenly need to have tents again at all?
 

Raptor85

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Why were these tent spawns not disabled the very day this bug was reported? Why did gypsy spawns suddenly need to have tents again at all?
Possibly for the same reason bugs that I reported in the ML beta are still in the game....

I honestly think [email protected] is piped straight into /dev/null for processing...
 
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Javin

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Think it's the gypsies way of paying us back for mass murdering them for their jewelery? :)

But in all honesty, this is pretty sad that its not fixed. Like so many others have said, just turn off the tents?

~J
 

Kas Althume

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Well there it comes ... i got yet another new rare ...




This is my Siege Perilous shack, N/E corner. The carpet and half the table is gone. This time the items that where locked down above the table just dropped to the floor instead of vanishing.
 
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MeganSmiles

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I have only orc camps near my house on the Ice Island, but my carpet are disappearing in one square sections. I tried to take the bugged ones up by hitting with an axe but it just destroys the rug, does not redeed it into you back pack. What to do?
 

Kas Althume

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Castle on Ice Island, lots of orc/prisoner camps spawning.
(bottom floor, center room)



Castle on Ice Island, lots of orc/prisoner camps spawning.
(bottom floor, north hallway, the rugs are the reward rugs from the elf expansion)
 

Shelleybean

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I have a castle on ice island and had some items disappear as well. I'm very concerned because I've decorated with some hard to replace rare items and would not be happy if I were to lose them.
 

Masuri

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I recently returned to UO and moved to Atlantic. When I finally found a respectably sized plot for a house and planted a foundation way up in the open areas north of Compassion, imagine my surprise when five minutes later, a brigand camp spawned halfway in my house, adding a decorative campfire and cauldron to my floor. Within the next hour, another brigand camp and three gypsy camps had spawned nearby. I got suspicious since I'd read this thread, so I planted goza mats over every possible square of the floor. By evening, another camp had destroyed half of a goza. I checked next door and saw that my neighbor is missing three tiles from his brand-new dolphin rug.

Needless to say, I'm moving immediately; a house is worthless if the items I keep within it are randomly destroyed. This is a game-stopping bug, and I'm shocked Mythic reintroduced the spawns without having fixed something so major.

 
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Sevin0oo0

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how does the Half Goza affect the lockdown count - half #'s?
I'd look for a way to fill my purse with a bit of gold from this - if you can find something Really Cool to do with this, they'll fix it, it's the only way.
 

Masuri

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Gozas don't count against lockdowns at all. :D I didn't try to axe it (I just dropped the house and left the gozas where they fell), but earlier in the thread, people said that when they axed their busted/halved placeables, they were actually destroyed instead of returning to the backpack in deed form. Yikes.
 
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Babble

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What did they change with the housing code that it happens now?
They did not spawn in houses before as far as I remember

Might be that something in HS broke the code checking if they are in houses or not?
 

Raptor85

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yes, anything placed from a deed if "broken" into parts will be destroyed if you axe it, so if you have anything valuable you will...unfortunately...have to try and get a GM to fix it.

And since we know that's pretty much impossible, I'm truly sorry for all your lost items :/
 

athos_uo

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EA Japan official site posted as follows:

- In general, after publish 69, when you piled items on a tile and locked down them, and unlocked and pulled out one of them or redeeded rug-type addons below, items piled on it would fall down beneath the floor(even if they are locked down).

- When a Gypsy camp spawns and items as chests, kegs or caldrons are located just beneath those piled and locked-down items, AND those items out of the Gypsy camp disappear, items piled on them would fall down beneath the floor.

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All shards will get mini publish at their regular maintenance after 05 Jan. 00:00 EST.

This publish includes:
- The fix for the issue that items fall down due to items out of camps spawns.
 
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Babble

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I hope that code works, but they should really check if the tile is free and not just wildly place about.
 

cdavbar

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I get gypsy and brigand spawns just north of my keep, every once of a while the "trash" deco from teh spawn pops in my NW room of my keep....im worried to deco that corner becuase of it and scared that i will lose my stuff to this bug.

Whatever they do they need to fix and fast.

I love the tents but i love my stuff more!!
 
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Javin

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hey yall!

Man, this really sucks!
I( personally dont have a house in a spawn area, but i dop get spawn sometimes...its weird...
Im se of of the Sacrifice shrine, and now, IM starting to get worried...

I know gypsies spawn is certain spots, but Ive never seen a gypsy camp within miles of my house...aNYONE ever seen them around my neck of the woods?

Ok heres my next question,

Would you guys, as crappy as it sounds, do an experiment and try placing things up a few tiles with a house deco tool? I mean does the item on the floor only dissappear, or is it ALL items on that particular area of a tile in ALL of someones house? (ie everything on the Z axis?)

I dont ask this to be a butt, im just wondering, and it it works (plpacing things up) then you can protect some of your stuff too....although everything onn the floor is in jeoppadry.

Thanks!

~J
 
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