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Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Discarded

ACB1961

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I think I heard you could get it from mining or logging. I love doing that stuff, but I'm pretty stretched out trying to fill all these orders.

I'd appreciate any info possible on this.
 

Tina Small

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

It drops in your pack when you mine in Ter Mur. The miner that I've used in the last few days to get it is already GM, but I think there's a possibility that you may be able to get it with mining skill that is less than GM. My guess is that mining skill of 83 or higher may be enough. It doesn't drop very often and is very hard to see in your backpack and seems to have a tendency to want to hide under other stuff in your pack. If your miner is GM, you may also still occasionally get drops of "a small piece of blackrock," which is not the same as "crystalline blackrock."

The message you'll see in your journal when you get the crystalline blackrock from mining is, "Sifting through the ore, you notice something unusual among the bits of metal and stone."
 

Gilmour

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

is there a place in ter mur safe for a crafter to mine without getting alot of aggro?
 

ACB1961

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

Thanks Tina, we've got 5 miners at 100 (105 with gloves) I think. We have mined a lot of ore over the years, and we're very used to blackrock drops. I'll try the Ter mining immediately because pretty much all the drops at the Cavern of the Discarded are rare.
 

Maplestone

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

my datapoint for the evening:

elf, ore+gems, 105 mining in Ter Mur: 2500 assorted ingots, 3 crystalline blackrock

( one of the crystalline blackrock was inside the Royal City guard zone )
 
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Yalp

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

I mined most of the day yesterday in Ter Mur (gm + 5 gloves).

I didn't get any crystalline blackrock in my pack.
 

ACB1961

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

my datapoint for the evening:

elf, ore+gems, 105 mining in Ter Mur: 2500 assorted ingots, 3 crystalline blackrock

( one of the crystalline blackrock was inside the Royal City guard zone )
I'm willing to bet that being an elf is really helpful for this.
 

Hildebrand

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

Hope elf helps. My elf miner was prospecting for mining when the Ter Mur moongates first opened and he got killed :(
He's traumatized.
 

Tina Small

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

My miner/LJ (elf with GM mining and high 90s in LJ and who is not wearing mining gloves because they mess up her mana regen) has gotten about 23 crystal shards, 15 crystalline blackrock, 6 slith tongues, 4 void orbs, 4 silver serpent venom, 3 void essence, 1 toxic venom sac, about 450 regular gems, and about 25 ML gems from about 7 total hours of mining and lumberjacking in Ter Mur. Sunday she spent most of the time in a bit of a nasty place where she had to do a lot of killing monsters, running to avoid death, and getting a half dozen pet rezzes; yesterday was spent almost entirely in and near Royal City with relatively few kills and no pet rezzes (used a few runes from the day before for valorite, verite, and yew that were made Sunday in the tougher area and killed a dozen or so void monsters and silver serpents). Didn't keep track of what she gathered in terms of boards and ingots, although she is now up to 1210 yew boards. Hasn't hit GM lumberjacking yet.
 
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Nastia Cross

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My miner/LJ (elf with GM mining and high 90s in LJ and who is not wearing mining gloves because they mess up her mana regen) has gotten about 23 crystal shards, 15 crystalline blackrock, 6 slith tongues, 4 void orbs, 4 silver serpent venom, 3 void essence, 1 toxic venom sac, about 450 regular gems, and about 25 ML gems from about 7 total hours of mining and lumberjacking in Ter Mur. Sunday she spent most of the time in a bit of a nasty place where she had to do a lot of killing monsters, running to avoid death, and getting a half dozen pet rezzes; yesterday was spent almost entirely in and near Royal City with relatively few kills and no pet rezzes (used a few runes from the day before for valorite, verite, and yew that were made Sunday in the tougher area and killed a dozen or so void monsters and silver serpents). Didn't keep track of what she gathered in terms of boards and ingots, although she is now up to 1210 yew boards. Hasn't hit GM lumberjacking yet.
Tina, is she an elf?
 

Gheed

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

My miner/LJ (elf with GM mining and high 90s in LJ and who is not wearing mining gloves because they mess up her mana regen)

FYI Mining gloves can be imbued now.
 

Tina Small

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

She's an elf. I have a similar human character on another shard that I'll try to use today for a bit in the same areas and see if there's a similar yield from mining and lumberjacking. She only has 88 lumberjacking but mining is GM and it looks like her barding and magery are slightly better, so maybe she won't have to run quite as much while dealing with the monsters. I think the lumberjacking's high enough to get the crystal shards. (I started getting them at 83.2 on my LJ on Pacific.)
 
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Nastia Cross

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Thanks Tina, I'll check that out tonight with both my elf and human. Looks like I may have to get a fire beetle for my elf though. Glad I saved my vollems in crystals... seems to me they will come in handy in the wilds of Ter Mur.
 

Tina Small

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

Thanks Tina, I'll check that out tonight with both my elf and human. Looks like I may have to get a fire beetle for my elf though. Glad I saved my vollems in crystals... seems to me they will come in handy in the wilds of Ter Mur.
What shard are you on? I'll be happy to go tame you a fire beetle if you're on a shard where I have a decent peace tamer.

I've thought about giving a few of my miner/LJs the vollems but I've been doing the LJ/mining in Ter Mur while riding a fire beetle and towing two pack animals. No control slots left for anything else. I kind of like being able to do the mining at the outcroppings and along that edge strip (where the void stuff spawns) and smack the trees while we walk along. It does get a bit hairy at times though. LOL
 
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Nastia Cross

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

I'm on Chessy, but no worries about the fire beetle. My human miner has one. If it proves to be worthwhile to use an elf to mine in Ter Mur, I'll just trade the fire beetle to the elf (and retool her template while I'm at it.. maybe a nice UBWS hatchet and a pair of meddabe mining gloves will be in order).
 

Tina Small

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Okay. Couldn't have helped you on Chessy anyway....tamer there is still in the 50s and 60s on everything. LOL
 
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Hit the royal city with my elf crafter miner, 3 spots in got a crystalling blackrock.

This is the best!

I was getting annoyed with the cavern.
 

Xalan Dementia

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While hunting in the areas north and east of Royal City ive found a few gargoyle only areas that are safe and seem to be for mining, theres a few mountain circles with a flight path into center where theres no monsters and seem to be for mining. you could take a gargy there, mark rune, and give to elf miner and have a decent safe spot in wild for mining. ill get a screenie of some of the spots alil later this afternoon.
 

Maplestone

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

some random gargoyle pickaxe data from 10 elementals dug up:

3 shadow iron - no drops
3 bronze - no drops
1 gold - 1 crystalline blackrock
1 agapite - 1 crystalline blackrock
2 valorite - 1 crystalline blackrock

(I also got another drop just from the mining along the way)

dug-up elementals do not give loyalty.
still no sign of any dull copper elementals

( this was in Ter Mur - I'll have to go earn some more pickaxes to check elsewhere )
 

Gheed

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PvM mining and PvM fetch quests to "upgrade" ingots...brilliant. I wondered why the devs lined the mountanside with aggresive critters.
 

Hildebrand

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My poor miner was just north east of the bank mining along the hills. On the right side, there are those sneaky trapdoor spiders. *sigh*
I need to keep looking for a safer spot.
Ter Mur is looking like Tokuno.... dangerous.
 
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King Frankie

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Fyi it does not matter at all what you mine ive got 3 drops in 10 mins.
 

Blackweb

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

Maplestone, do you mean that you got crystalline blackrock off of the elementals dug up with gargoyle pickaxes? Because that would be really nice!
 

Sara1

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

I have a house east of the City and the mountain runs quite a ways east of my house against the water. All that's there are a few mongbats and little tiny snakes. My fire beetle eats them. I got 12 crystaline and 6 perfect emeralds just going from one end to the other and it's very safe.
 

Xalan Dementia

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heres a couple pics of some safe mining spots in Termur, these are north/slight NE of royal city. takes a garg to reach them but they can mark a rune inside it and give runes to your miner.
 

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Maplestone

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Re: Is Crystalline Blackrock attainable from somewhere other than the Cavern of Disca

Maplestone, do you mean that you got crystalline blackrock off of the elementals dug up with gargoyle pickaxes? Because that would be really nice!
yes indeed - they were on the corpses.
 

Tina Small

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Took the human GM miner/88 LJ bard out for about an hour's worth of resource gathering in Ter Mur and ended up with the resources below. Most of the time was spent mining because we were in town on the north end of Royal City and there weren't very many trees to chop for boards.

111 regular gems; 6 ML gems; 5 crystalline blackrock; 1 crystal shards; approximately 1400 ingots; about 900 boards.

Compared to mining/LJ with an elf in Ter Mur, the gems and imbuing ingredients seem to be spawning at about the same rate. Ingots and boards seem low, but that could be because someone else previously mined the same area. The character was not wearing mining gloves or using a corroded axe.

Will update with more info about the crystal shards once I get in more lumberjacking with this character.
 
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heres a couple pics of some safe mining spots in Termur, these are north/slight NE of royal city. takes a garg to reach them but they can mark a rune inside it and give runes to your miner.
The first one is amazingly good - you can probably mine almost ceaselessly there, since it took me around 50 minutes to go from one end to the other, and I expect coming back would take about as long.
 
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ACB, good luck simply mining crytaline BR or lumberjacking for crystals. There was a thread on the subject last week, I wanted to wait until I had more firsthand experience before commenting. I've now spent 6-8 hours with each effort, and it's just a perception, but honestly the drop rates are a bit disappointing, at least in my experience. Having worked the cavern rather hard prior to the change allowing us to "mule" for them (which BTW is actually much appreciated, but...), and again it's just a gut feel, I seem to have done better in the cavern, time to task, with both ingrediants. The only exception I've seen, as Maplestone mentioned earlier, has been with ore elementals and CBR, they are on corpses pretty often. I haven't figured a way to increase odds for LJ crystals. I'm not really "peeved" or anything with the low drop rates, it just sorta seems to me all this addition does is feed the "friendly" neighborhood resource scripter. You'll have to test the waters yourself, to get a feel for what works best for you, the cavern, muling, or waiting for the prices to drop on player vendors. For me, it's probably back to the cavern for crystals and/ or elementals for CBR! Anyhow, good luck!
 
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