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in need of the template for a Wammy

Raze(tmg)

Journeyman
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can someone list skills etc needed to make a good wammy pls i have a sampire so i wanna try a wammy aswell

thxs in advance
Raze
 
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Lord GOD(GOD)

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Its basically the same only you can have lower Necro and need SS.
 
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Lord GOD(GOD)

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Yeah you'll want to be able to stay in Wraith Form and cast Curse Weapon 100%, which I think is at 60 but you should check the minimum skill (in the book) plus 40 gives the 100% point.

For SS, I would have 100 minimum.
 

Raze(tmg)

Journeyman
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thxs for replys this is all new to me lol
do i need anat and healing or should i just run with chiv?
 
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Lord GOD(GOD)

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You might be able to cram Chiv on there, but your main source of healing comes from Curse Weapon which gives 50% Life Leech. The constant casting of Curse Weapon usually means your Karma won't be high and the duration of Chiv spells will be affected.
 

Raze(tmg)

Journeyman
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think ive worked out my final template
would this be okay u think?

necro 60
bushido 120
ss 100
swords 120
parry 120
tactics 90
anat 90
healing 80

also will i need fc/fcr on the suit?
 
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Connor_Graham

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I'd drop Necro by 20 and bump tactics and antomy both up to GM. You get both a damage bonus and an additional 2 seconds to Evasion. You'll also want to have Protection cast on yourself so you can't get interrupted casting Curse Wep.
 

Ender

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Drop healing, add chiv IMO. You're leeching 50% of all damage you do. That 50% damage increase from EoO, and Consecrate Weapon are much more useful than healing with wraith form and curse weapon.
 
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Stupid Miner

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think ive worked out my final template
would this be okay u think?

necro 60
bushido 120
ss 100
swords 120
parry 120
tactics 90
anat 90
healing 80

also will i need fc/fcr on the suit?
... well since you wont be casting any real necro spells anyway, just use a protection scroll so your curse weapon doesn't get interrupted.

Oh and, if you don't mind constructive criticism, you're kinda shooting yourself in the foot here by having less than 100 necro.
With full necro you can switch between Vampire and Wraith form as the situation requires.

70% damage leeched and 20% damage reduction can be useful... in some rare, obscure instances i suppose.

...granted you're probably using this char for completely different purposes than I do with mine so you're gonna typically get a lot less use out of Necro in PvM and with no fc/fcr.
 
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Stupid Miner

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You might be able to cram Chiv on there, but your main source of healing comes from Curse Weapon which gives 50% Life Leech. The constant casting of Curse Weapon usually means your Karma won't be high and the duration of Chiv spells will be affected.
Depends on what you're killing most of the time. If you're doing spawns, karma will stay high, if you're killing bosses, you're karma's wrecked (until you do a spawn, then it's high again).
Without FC/FCR Close Wounds is too slow, as is remove curse. With FC/FCR the only real PvM negative of having low karma is Remove Curse wont work. Cleanse by fire will work, but you'll fail a few times, but curing poison with it isnt that useful anyway since only High level poison matters, and they're only inflicted by monsters that inflict it on hits instead of spells, and then they'll just infect you again 5 seconds later. Not to forget, Curse weapon typically just laughs off the extra poison damage.

Also, at 70 chiv you still heal 25 damage with completely negative karma.
 

Raze(tmg)

Journeyman
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chars mainly for doing peerless.
i have a sampire on other account so i just wanted to make this into a wammy

Will wraith form work at 40?
 

Ender

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Yeah. You can't cast wraith form 100%, but when you do cast it, you stay in that form til death or you have that new mysticism spell used on you. Curse Weapon is 100% at 40 though.
 

Raze(tmg)

Journeyman
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Stratics Legend
ok changeing template according to advice ive had here

necro 40
bushido 120
ss 100
swords 120
parry 120
tactics 100
anat 100
healing 80


Thxs for advice guys
 

Garm The Green

Lore Master
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
ok changeing template according to advice ive had here


bushido 120
swords 120
parry 120
ss 100
tactics 100
anat 100
healing 80
necro 40


Thxs for advice guys

360 + 300 +120 = 780

You're 60 points over?

20 from bracers. 15 from totem, 25 from jewels?

Hows the plate been working out too dude? I'm having similair thoughts myself... though admittedly, with less points to play with...
 
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