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In concept - Virtue vs Vice

Kyronix

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Kyronix ... while I like the fact you are attempting to make changes, umm this entire system is one huge mistake & will be a fail if this garbage is actually permitted by your boss to go into the game...

I read your replies and it's almost like you don't care about the history that surrounds factions for instance this little gem of a RANT!


What? Seems to me you are adding new content just fine... & More to that why not add new content around the current faction system? Your grand plan of tossing out 14 years of history for something that we all know even you will be bug ridden from the start..
Another question I have for you is exactly how long have you been playing UO? Fighting of the control of a town is not a problem at all! We fight to control the town, to place guards, to control the prices, to have faction vendors, it's a reason to fight and it's a reason to play....

A long standing issue with the use of faction artifacts? You mean like as long as you have ever played UO huh? Well I seem to remember when these items went into the game how they got implemented and there was a developer just like you saying how it will make players join factions and create new wars and bla bla bla just like you are doing right now!

Factions requires a critical mass to support on any given shard? Once again you are wrong this must be why you have no set course for a thief in your new system... You seem like one of those tram blue non-pvpers making a push to abolish factions but never have actually taken part in holds, fights, capturing of towns, placing guards, traps ...
Your idea is to change to basically Call of Duty Domination at shrines, are you kidding us?! Who ever asked for this bud?
We asked for a fix to factions not a total removal and replaced with one guys stupid system.. ONE GUY is basically killing off 14 years of history and memories and your using these things and the voices of non-pvpers to do it - SHAME on you Kyronix!

As for farming silver... Hey bud once again farming silver in fel only leads to more fights and thats what this is all about right?
Yes lets do away with raiding blighted grove, fire or anywhere with oj monsters. Did you ever stop to think players actually enjoy this? Your talking like everything about factions is bad & needs to be removed because everyone hates it.

I want you to seriously rethink what you are doing Kyronix because I don't think you are taking any actual players who PvP into account here. Think dude! Your not because all the real pvpers who have posted are telling you this is a dumb idea! But your not listening are you? Your listening to non pvpers tell you how to make a pvp system..
Thanks for your feedback. I've been playing UO since 1999 since you asked and have participated in a number of different play styles. At times I've been a "tram blue non-pvpers" that you describe, others I've been a resource gatherer and crafter, a role-players, and others I've been an Abyss shard color war junkie (Which I still think was the best PvP UO offered...right before Siege became a reality).

Part of something being In Concept it is just that - In Concept. The issue I pointed out with faction artifacts used in Trammel is that for a while the system was exploited for the artifacts in that players would join, get free gear, and then never actually participate in the faction system. Over time there have been a series of attempts to fix that, the most recent the inclusion of faction silver. While you may not have an issue with collecting enough silver to sustain the use artifacts, others do, and have made their feelings known. The idea is that if you want to PvP you don't want to have to PvM to farm silver. That is why the artifacts and gear won't require any payment, other than participating and using them in Felucca.
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