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thelma1717

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ok played ten years, got hacked lost luna pac vendor house over 2 bill gold and rares, ask for investigation they said ok. well they found out i bought on ebay with paypal banned account but hacker still in game lol. so now they have all my transactions from ebay and paypal. problem here is there is over 100 uo tansactions from ebay ,so i have told them they have to ban all them as well sense they have names dates and amounts , i hope this does not hurt the game but once again hackers are responsible, ok still have original account 130 months working on vendor blip goes screen and vendor had 753 mill on it noe has about 3k gold lmao gms say sorry but cant trace money lmao ell i guess it time to close dowm uo its been fun ya all lol hope none of you get banned from buying items out of game they have all my info if they dont ban these peeps there may be leagal probs will see good bye good luck it really been fun !!!!
 

Petra Fyde

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I have read that 3 times and still have no clue what is actually being said.
 

thelma1717

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no its my fault. i bought it over 5 years ago, then person comes back uses live chat gives key code takes it back lol , they give it back stippred say oops that should not have happened lol. if it wasnt mine why did they give it back? i asked them to investigate , thats where the problem stands all people who bought or sold through me are now probly going to log in amd like me find everthing gone banned soory but as ive stated person who they said got it back wrong and only now are they looking into there who owned it security lmao not bad only took tenn years to figure out the systems wrong hehe. but again they have over 100 accounts they will have to ban soory. heres part email they sent===Hello Fellow Gamer,

Thanks for responding! I cannot discuss any of the action that will be taken against any other players of Ultima Online as that is a direct violation of the Privacy Policy electronic Arts has in place. I apologise for this inconvenience and hope you have a great day.



If you need further assistance please reply to this email or contact us at the number below. Also a good link for some additional troubleshooting steps can be found at www.support.ea.com.

Thank You,
Jessica B.
Electronic Arts Tier 3 Customer Support.
(650)628-1001
 

Zosimus

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Ebay ended a long long long while back the selling of virtual items and accounts., You can buy the actual pc versions ( or codes emailed) of games and irl game items ( books and stratagies) but nothing virtual. Only thing I can think of somebody found a loop hole in Ebay if the OP story is true or he bought the account before they banned the selling of virtual items. Plus if you had bought it from ebay and used paypal you are paypal protected and could of filed through them. Not sure what you mean by banned paypal account in your run on sentences unless you used a banned paypal account. In fact you should be in serious trouble with ebay if you and the seller was using illegal means to sell and buy items that are prohibited on ebay. I know about ebay because I run an online ebay business and I know the TOS you agree with ebay. Your story has to many holes in it.


Most likely he bought a stolen account from the supposedly ebay user that was dormant and the original user activated it and found a gold mine. His loss in the end. UO has its own account transfer system in place and that what the OP should of used when buying/selling accounts.
 

Prime.

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I think this is as close as I can come for a translation....

"Ok, So I've been playing uo for 10 years, I just got my account hacked with a luna house with over 2 billion gold and rare items. When I asked EA Customer Service for an investigation, they found out I bought this account off of Ebay. Customer Service Banned my account but the person who hacked it is still in the game. So now EA Customer Service/The Hacker (Can't understand which one lol) has all of my old Ebay/Paypal transactions. The problem is, there have been hundred's of in game items sold for cash over ebay, and since I got banned for buying in game items with cash, everyone else who did in the past should get banned as well, since they have all the names, dates, and amounts of those transactions. I hope this does not hurt Ultima Online, but hackers once again got away with there hacking. I still have my 130 month old account, and my vendor that had 753 million on it has about 3k left lol. I paged the GM's but they weren't able to do anything since gold cannot be tracked. Well I guess it's time for me to quit uo but its been fun and I hope none of you get banned for buying in game items with cash. If they don't ban the hackers will all my info, this may lead up to legal problems, but we'll see... Good Luck and it's been fun! Prime is the bestest uo player ever, and you should hit him up with some free stuff."

Whew. I must say, she's going somewhere with the last bit, Thanks for the shout out girl! :heart:
 

cdavbar

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EA/UO TOS states that in a hacked account/ownership disputes the last charged credit card is the owner. Banning the account was just a cheap excuse to not actually do any investigating, UO/EA customer service at its best!
 

Aurelius

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Always, if you buy an account, use the Account Transfer System

As shown by Thelma's experience, you can end up losing all that is on what you think is your secure account if you buy it cheap and don't pay the $30.....
 

a slave girl

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In account ownership disputes, EA customer service determines the owner to be whomever paid for the account within the past 30 days.

So more or less whoever can give them the correct numbers from the gametime code or credit card used to pay for that account is the owner of that account.

So if you buy an account from a player they can take it back if they call EA before you change the payment info and make the first 30 day payment.

That's why EA created the account transfer program to make an official record of the sale or trade of the account.

The OP is an experienced UO player and and older person irl who can afford to pay the $30 transfer fee, so there's really something very odd about this.
 

Petra Fyde

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yes, that much I got. What I have totally failed to comprehend is what happened after that.
The account was returned? then banned? why?
Why are other people likely to be banned as a result of this hacking? I don't see the connection.
If it can't be discussed here please let me know.
 
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Prime,
I would appreciate it if you would edit and re-write for clarity all future posts.

Thanks
 

Arcus

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yes ive seen this before, many times over my ten years. its odd one of my accounts on pac luna plot, vendors and all got banned. i got acct over 5 years ago person who i got it from got to billing said it was his they gave it back lol i complained they investigated i got it back sripped over 2 bill in rares and gold . yes i bought on e--y my bad no prob there but they now his name chtr and i sent his icq lmao he still in game not banned !!!!! i wish they would sit and watch idocs for scripting . you can walk around luna pick up books that advertise everything for sale at umm carefull here we will say you can buy anything there lol. i get banned playing for fun they make a living in here against tos and my account banned lamo. kinda like politics in here the rich get the breaks and players get ripped lol

This is from another one of his(her?) posts. See the end sentence? Always willing to blame someone for stepping on them but NEVER willing to take the responsibility that they did something they weren't supposed to do.

If you buy an account off of xyz place and you cheap out and dont get the account officially transferred using EAs system the problem is YOUR fault . Dont blame the rich guy , or Obama or Muslims (check poster's other posts) or anyone else. You broke the rules and found out why they made those rules.

Suck it up and admit you screwed up and is no ones fault but your own.
 

a slave girl

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It's hard to say what's allowed here.

I think he is warning other's that bought accounts with expensive houses on them that they will now lose their account to the original owner?

Which would be him according to EA's rules but I think he wants us to believe the person who takes back those expensive UO homes will be some other older owner of the account.

Don't believe it people.

I actually had the OP's unusual female char name on my list of the UO housing mafia from nearly four years ago on Atlantic and now he is on Pac apologizing to a couple Luna city vendor house owners for losing money over something.

I mentioned in gen chat on Pac about his having owned properties in UO he most certainly paid cash for and maybe the websites he bought the properties from used his info to get his account, and he denied paying cash for properties in UO, but here now he says he did alot of cash sales in UO.

I think it's more a case of a fool and his gold are soon parted, in this case it's all the fool's who paid cash to buy expensive properties from him and neglected to spend the extra $30 to use EA's account transfer service.

All he has to do is call up EA to get those expensive accounts back and resell them on ebay to another fool.
 

THP

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i very much doubt EA would give back an account just beacuse they have got the orginal key code from the box but have not played for years!!

If they do this or even did this ....then every tom, **** and aunty sally are gonna go down to all the second hand shop/ car boot sales etc etc and buy every old battered boxed copy they can find and simply ask for the account back that they have never really owned???

surely EA will use the last credit card billing???

wtf????????
 

Picus of Napa

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There is a thread about this on the Pacific forums. I thought that the conclusion was this player was a gold farmer.
 

Viper09

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Always, if you buy an account, use the Account Transfer System

As shown by Thelma's experience, you can end up losing all that is on what you think is your secure account if you buy it cheap and don't pay the $30.....
This! Even if you didn't originally purchase using this you can transfer it to yourself and make it official! The OP's experience isn't even the first time this has happened.
 

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i got it back sripped over 2 bill in rares and gold . i get banned playing for fun they make a living in here against tos and my account banned lamo. kinda like politics in here the rich get the breaks and players get ripped lol

This is from another one of his(her?) posts. See the end sentence? Always willing to blame someone for stepping on them but NEVER willing to take the responsibility that they did something they weren't supposed to do.
LOL I guess it is all perspective. The rich get teh breaks and the poor get ripped huh? I can't claim to have owned 2 billion in rares and gold if you add up everything I have ever "owned" in uo. From where I sit, the OP is one of the "rich". :)
 

thelma1717

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ok folks one more time. bought account over 5 years ago. yes i have sold and bought homes and accounts on ebay over the years. now here it is one more time. yes person got on live chat with ea ,gave old code and NO SLAVE GIRL it does not matter to ea they know it was my credit card that was used on account for over 5 years. he said it was hacked from him he gave them the code and they gave it back!!! now i called ea and billing, went all the way to tier 3 they said sorry and gave it back lol stripped to the bone. im not complaining here it been a good ride with 8 nephews and all but there gone to wow and warhammer etc. imytrying to tell all of you i asked ea to investigate they did found out i bought [ my bad ] the account, this was after they gave it back . when they found out then they banned it lol. i gave them the person i got it from invoice and the name icq# and persons real name ive even talked to the guy in game lol he laughs about it. but in looking at all the tranactions over 100 this becomes a problem for all who bought from me or i bought from as they are recieving all transactions. names dates email everthing. im sorry for my typing im disabled. almost 60 yes an old fart in game lol hard to do sometimes. just everyone please go and use transfer as im sure now people know how easy it is there going to be checking all there codes and trying to get them back. but it only computer pixals so no problem if you lose it all rite thanx all.
 

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ok, so old owner gave code to ea customer service, EA must have thought/was told that the account was stolen so they returned it. old owner strips everything off of it and left it. Thelma logs on to see its stripped and contacts EA customer service. EA of course gives her the runaround and makes her jump through hoops thinking she can get some of the items back, of course most people know that no matter what, EA will not return any lost items. or at least they are not supposed to. So instead of telling her this outright they just passed her problems off. During her experiences with EA she must have let them know the account was bought by her through non EA means (ebay, etc) So EA decides to end the problem simply by banning account and ignoring any other inquiries into the matter. Thelma takes it as "Anyone who buys game items/accounts with RL money will be banned if EA gets proof." She gave warning i think meaning that anyone that has done RL transactions for game stuff from her, that EA has that info. So essentially shes trying to warn anyone that may have bought game stuff for RL money that they need to beware.


This is just how i read it. so what ive wrote is just a speculation as to what happened.

Lessons:
Never pay real money for virtual items THAT YOU CANT OWN. (everything in the uo world belongs to EA, not the players)
If you have bought an account with RL money then be sure its been ran through the account transfer offered by EA. Because even if you change all the info on it, there may be some other ways for a previous owner to steal it back.
 

THP

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So u are basically telling everyone to buy as many old tattered boxed copies from 2nd hand shops and car boot sales as they possibly can... then all they have to do is ring EA up.. say they got hacked 5-8 years ago.. and they will instantly get an account they have never ever seen/played or paid for in there life!!!! just because they have got an old code on the tattered box cd cover they just bought for 50 cents form a carboot!!!

LOL.....fu???ing awesome EA!!!!!
 

Petra Fyde

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I think there is a high degree of confusion and misinformation here. I'm locking this till it can be clarified.
 
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