Gaining on failures ?

[oleskool]

Hello all , just wanted to check and see if you can gain taming on failures I found a guide that suggested locking all skills and only working taming with 0 animal lore so that you gain on failures any truth to this ?

 

[Turdnugget]

Pretty sure you still gain when you fail. Almost positive i've had that happen to me.

 

[Kazumi the Wild]

Having recently worked taming from 50 to over 80, I can tell you that NOT ONCE did I gain on a failed taming attempt.

I don't see why this would be different with 0 animal lore or 120 animal lore.

 

[Zodiac19]

No, no and no again you will not gain taming on a failure. You don't need to have lore at zero but locking it should increase gains in taming. I locked at 110 waiting for a 120PS and saw better gains. When the system says time for a gain it does another random pick of available gain skills so if taming and lore are set up you have a 50/50 chance in getting that taming gain. Locking lore will force all gains to taming. You also need to lock lore if it is at its skill cap or you might lose gains to lore when they are not needed. I can't prove locking lore will help but first hand exp says it works. Same for vet/lore. On a last note I just lored a single tamed pet over and over and over and over till I capped then locked or just locked while taming.

 

[Turdnugget]

You will gain on a failed taming attempt... i've done it before. Just like a lot of other skills, even when you fail you have a chance to gain How else could you gain skill if you never gained on failing?

 

[Tina Small]

I'd really like to see a screen shot of someone's journal when they get a taming gain but the taming attempt was unsuccessful. I've never seen it happen.

 

[Turdnugget]

At lower level i'm pretty darn sure it works. At higher level you typically have to gain off of a success. But at lower levels, i'm pretty sure it works.

 

[Tina Small]

At lower level i'm pretty darn sure it works. At higher level you typically have to gain off of a success. But at lower levels, i'm pretty sure it works.

The day it does, pleeeeeeeeease post a screen shot! I have a couple of tamers that have had their lore locked at 110 for a long time, although they are scrolled to 115 or 120. Am still working on their taming gains and it's darn slow. They've never gained off a failed taming attempt.

I'll have to remember to try locking lore at a low level to see what happens if I ever start another tamer character from scratch. I know there are many other skills where you can gain even if you fail at using the skill, but have just never seen it happen with taming. I submitted a FoF question about it, so maybe someone will think it's worth checking and give us an answer. Not going to hold my breath though. Did that last week with some questions I submitted and found out it just made me lightheaded. Or maybe I'm that way naturally....

 

[uoBuoY]

I'd really like to see a screen shot of someone's journal when they get a taming gain but the taming attempt was unsuccessful. I've never seen it happen.

I just logged in with a non-tamer (zero skill), tried to tame a Goat, failed and got 0.1 in taming skill. Try it!

 

[Kazumi the Wild]

I wouldn't be surprised if that was possible for tamers of skill level 0 to 10.0 -- I think they've changed the way skill gain works for that level of skill for all skills.

 

[Tina Small]

I just logged in with a non-tamer (zero skill), tried to tame a Goat, failed and got 0.1 in taming skill. Try it!

Well, I stand corrected!

I made a new character with no taming skill. She did indeed get taming gains from failed taming attempts. However, that seemed to stop when she hit 25.0 taming skill.

Can anyone else verify that 25.0 seems to be the cut-off point for getting taming gains from failed taming attempts?

Thanks for pointing this out...it's always a good day when you learn something new.

 

[uoBuoY]

I'm working some Bard skills above 110 and it "feels" as though I get more gains from failures than successes

 

[Kazumi the Wild]

Bard skills appear to be different.

Sometimes, i've noticed gaining Discord from failed attempts (above 25).

I have NEVER, EVER noticed a skill gain on taming above 25 for ANYTHING except a successful check.

I've trained this skill up to 100, and i'm up to 80 again. If you could gain on a failed attempt after 25, you'd think I'dve encountered it once before this.