@Kyronix you really think there are users that like refinements the way they're currently implemented? The end result, sure, but the gathering? Its a massive grind. You can do 20 t-maps and not get a single one of the material you want, then there's only a 50 percent chance its the type you want. And THEN there's a huge possibility its a low level one so you have to do it all over again, again and again.
I really want to use them and like them but they're awful in implementation. I don't know a single person that doesn't just trash them, I've used vendor search and general chat looking for them and no luck on one of the more populated shards.
