ONow you are changing your tune to something to the effect "While it doesn't impact me much, I'm still going to voice my concerns."
No change of tune at all. Perhaps I was unable to make my point understood from the beginning but my point has always been the questioning of game mechanics which I disagree with, regardless whether or not they had any impact on my game play.
As it is now, better orders likely yield better opportunities to get better rewards.
I am sorry but I cannot possibly agree with this from a personal experience.
When I turn in at about 109 fishing skill 6-liner fishing order of 230 points out of 240 max possible (without dungeon fish requests) and get yet another hardly usefull bait and then I hear of players at only 100.0 GM fishing skill turning in a 5-liner fishing order of like merely about 150 points and get a 110 fishing Powerscroll I cannot conclude that better orders give better rewards.
Better orders should bring better rewards 100% of the time "if" they are better orders.
That is how tailoring and blacksmithying Bulk Order Deeds rewards are organized which are much more consistant, IMHO, with the quality and rarity of the deed being turned in.
Definately way more than it is currently with fishing orders.
As it "should" be ? Is there perhaps a developers' guide that tells what "should" be in situations like these ? If there is one, I do not know it.
Besides, since we have the same one game, Ultima Online, where rewards are handled differently whether they are related to tailoring and blacksmything BODs or fishing orders, if there is some guide that tells how these rewards "should" be awarded to players (like a guideline to developers...) then either the tailoring/smithy BODs rewards are handled the wrong way OR the fishing orders rewards are handled the wrong way.
They cannot be both right if there is one way that such rewards "should" be awarded to players....
Personally, I consider that blacksmything and tailoring award of rewards from BODs turn in the more correct one as the values of rewards are more consistant, IMHO, with the rarity and value of the BOD being turned in rather than what happens today with fishing orders.
If you can't enjoy just simply fishing because you enjoy fishing, move on.
My point is not about enjoying fishing. I am not discussing whether fishing may or not be enjoyable in UO as it is now (though from the complaints I read from fellow fishermen about pulling up footware i can see that there are problems out there...), my point is limited to a section of fishing that pertain to the new fishing orders and the way the rewards are being awarded to players there.
I happen to think that they are not correctly awarded to players because I do not see better orders always award better rewards to players. That's it.
All you have done is simply repeat the point. You haven't approached it in different ways. You haven't worded it differently.
I have tried to make myself understood several times, even including examples. I honestly do not know how else I can try make my point get through.
The point is simply that better fishing orders (which means more rare to be given from fishmonger i.e. 6-liners with a high number of points of fish contained...) should always bring home to players better rewards.
I do not possibly know how else and in what different way I can try to explain this concept to make myself be understood.
Given the trends that you have had throughout the questing process from ranting to not getting 105 scrolls,
Since dungeon fish get added at 106 fishing skill, players were not getting 110 PS and had to bind 8x 105 fishing scrolls in order to be able to advance in their fishing training.
With others, I raised up the concern and this was changed making it possible to be given 110 fishing PS even without turning in fishing orders that required dungeon fish requests in them.
I must conclude that my ranting was on spot since it ended up with the game changed to make something possible which before was not......
My complaint was never about how hard it could be to get 110 fishing powerscrolls. My complain has always been about seeing
worse fishing orders award 110 fishing scrolls when
better fishing orders did not.
My concern is not about whether or not 110 fishing PS should be difficult to get, my complaint is limited to a game mechanic where I see worse fishing orders bring to players better rewards than much better (and rarer) fishing orders.
to pushing for 120 to be harder
Yes, I am convinced that while 105 and 110 fishing PS should be rather common, I think that 115 and 120 fishing PS should be hard to get in order to make the legendary fisherman status something meaningfull.
and to push your own agenda for what legendary fishers should claim as their own.
Not having a 120.0 Legendary fisherman I can hardly have an agenda about it.....
This said, though, I believe that the bonus to players upon becoming Legendary Fishermen should far exceed what it is now, especially, if the reaching of Legendary fisherman status is difficult, as I support.
I am convinced that a mere increased chance at fishing up rare fish is completely not sufficient and motivating the effort and dedication or time it takes to reach Legendary Fisherman. Especially, since baits are not really that much needed to fish up rare fish (I do fish up quite a good number of them at 109 skill, I imagine at 120 it happens quite more...) and besides, magic pies have hardly any demand and often sit unsold on vendors.
To make matters worse, you have NOT even in the least considered the unintended consequences that may negatively effect other fishers.
Are you here referring to my plea to make better fishing orders always bring better rewards to players turning them in ? If so, how would this impact players, negatively ?
Or are you perhaps referring to my plea to make 120.0 fishing powerscrolls hard to get ?
Sure, this is a negative impact on players but it is for all players, indistinctively, and a necessary burden to make the status of Legendary fisherman be more meaningfull, IMHO.
Or are you perhaps referring to my plea about adding more bonuses to the advahtages that a 120.0 Legendary fisherman should benefit from ?
We already have many skills in the game providing quite a boost for those reaching 120.0 level over lower levels. I do not see why this should be different in fishing. I mean, how can it be right as it is now where, a 120.0 Legendary fisherman has the same chances as 100.0 GM fisherman for most goodies that fishing brings to players ?
Making it to 120.0 Legendary fishing requires a whole lot of work, effort, time and dedication and many, many quests. This effort, time and dedication should be compensated with way more than just being able to fish up a few more rare fish which are only good to make magic pies which hardly sell.
now if i ever want a 120 fishing scroll ill just buy it
