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imported_Viper09
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Ok, so we were suppose to be able to pick sides. How? And how do you know what side you picked? I must have missed it.
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Event: Pick Sides??
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I'm not sure either, but I would like to at least know how I was supposed to chose, and when. I was so lagged that just staying alive was difficult.
How do you know what side you've been put on? *confused*
How do you know what side you've been put on? *confused*
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*laughs*
Well I would have picked a side ...had the lag not been so bad that I could have gotten to ANY side.
haha
Well I would have picked a side ...had the lag not been so bad that I could have gotten to ANY side.
haha
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*laughs*
Well I would have picked a side ...had the lag not been so bad that I could have gotten to ANY side.
haha
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*waves*
I called out a "Hi Queen Zen!" while we were all standing around the Detector waiting for the Event to begin...I'm not sure if you could have seen it though for all the lag and summons and wings flapping.
*laughs*
Well I would have picked a side ...had the lag not been so bad that I could have gotten to ANY side.
haha
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*waves*
I called out a "Hi Queen Zen!" while we were all standing around the Detector waiting for the Event to begin...I'm not sure if you could have seen it though for all the lag and summons and wings flapping.
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Aye, I did not see the hello. Of course I also was too busy shouting KILL THE WINGED BEASTIES ...rude wingflapping stuck in the air atop our heads blocking the view ...they needed to DIE !! *I was glad to see one of em a huge dragon corpsey later on upon the fair Moonglow lawn in town there*
I was on one of my alt elves anyhow, so ...how did ya know that was me ? haha
I was on one of my alt elves anyhow, so ...how did ya know that was me ? haha
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imported_Viper09
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ok, so evidently the winged beasts were the "good side"? If that was the case, then perhaps there should have been some kind of hint. Because since they all seemed to be spawning in the exact spot we came in at, we all just started attacking them all and killing them, lol. Not to mention the winged beasts kept attacking me, lol.
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imported_Coppelia
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Rule of Game Design #1 :
Character - Goal - Obstacle - Solution
Character : it's you, with strengths and weaknesses
Goal : it must be clear and accepted
Obstacle : it must be CLEAR and at the height of the character (not too easy, not too hard). What's at stake must be clearly defined and coherent with the goal.
Solution : it must be CLEAR, logic and coherent with what's at stake.
Good example :
Bob the fighter is picking his nose in town. Joe the mage tells him that the demons attack his home town, so he must kill them before they destroy it.
Bob's goal is to protect the town, it's clear and he accepts it.
The obstacle is the demons. Clear, and what's at stake is his home town. It's big enough to interrest Bob, and clearly in the field of capacity of demons. Bob's death is not really what's at stake, because he can be resurrected. IT only slows him down.
The solution is clear : kill the demons. It means there's a finite number of demons and when they'll be dead, it will be over, the home town of Bob will be safe.
Bad exemple :
Bob's picking his nose again. Joe the mad alchemist arrives in town. He mutters something about evil forces and purple bunnies, then he vanishes. Demons appear, followed by orcs, purple bunnies and meers. They all attack Bob. Bob manages to kill two orcs and three bunnies before fleeing. There's nothing on their corpse. Three hours later, all the monsters disappeared and all the roofs are now dryad green.
Later on a website the player reads that he had killed the orcs only, the roofs would have stayed the same, and if he had killed the purple bunnies in addition, the river crossing the town would have become neon purple.
Neither the goal, the obstacle or the solution are clearly defined. The player doesn't know anything and all what he saw made no sense to him. What was at stake is totally ridiculous compared to what was the obstacle. Result : he's frustrated and shrugs.
Character - Goal - Obstacle - Solution
Character : it's you, with strengths and weaknesses
Goal : it must be clear and accepted
Obstacle : it must be CLEAR and at the height of the character (not too easy, not too hard). What's at stake must be clearly defined and coherent with the goal.
Solution : it must be CLEAR, logic and coherent with what's at stake.
Good example :
Bob the fighter is picking his nose in town. Joe the mage tells him that the demons attack his home town, so he must kill them before they destroy it.
Bob's goal is to protect the town, it's clear and he accepts it.
The obstacle is the demons. Clear, and what's at stake is his home town. It's big enough to interrest Bob, and clearly in the field of capacity of demons. Bob's death is not really what's at stake, because he can be resurrected. IT only slows him down.
The solution is clear : kill the demons. It means there's a finite number of demons and when they'll be dead, it will be over, the home town of Bob will be safe.
Bad exemple :
Bob's picking his nose again. Joe the mad alchemist arrives in town. He mutters something about evil forces and purple bunnies, then he vanishes. Demons appear, followed by orcs, purple bunnies and meers. They all attack Bob. Bob manages to kill two orcs and three bunnies before fleeing. There's nothing on their corpse. Three hours later, all the monsters disappeared and all the roofs are now dryad green.
Later on a website the player reads that he had killed the orcs only, the roofs would have stayed the same, and if he had killed the purple bunnies in addition, the river crossing the town would have become neon purple.
Neither the goal, the obstacle or the solution are clearly defined. The player doesn't know anything and all what he saw made no sense to him. What was at stake is totally ridiculous compared to what was the obstacle. Result : he's frustrated and shrugs.
I think in your "Easy" example Joe the mage assumed quite a bit...what makes him so smart? I doubt he is all knowing and i bet lots of things happened that could have been avoided because Bob listened to him.
See how easy it is to pick apart other peoples work?
See how easy it is to pick apart other peoples work?
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I think in your "Easy" example Joe the mage assumed quite a bit...what makes him so smart? I doubt he is all knowing and i bet lots of things happened that could have been avoided because Bob listened to him.
See how easy it is to pick apart other peoples work?
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You're assuming Joe the mage assumed. What if he did lots of research and he knows what he's talking about and that Bob was right to listen to him?
I think in your "Easy" example Joe the mage assumed quite a bit...what makes him so smart? I doubt he is all knowing and i bet lots of things happened that could have been avoided because Bob listened to him.
See how easy it is to pick apart other peoples work?
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You're assuming Joe the mage assumed. What if he did lots of research and he knows what he's talking about and that Bob was right to listen to him?
I know for a fact the winged angel things were aggressive. The first creature I killed was an angel-thing and I never went into combat mode, it was all defensive...
Maybe the choosing sides part is related to a turn in later? They sure did make it sound like it was part of the event though. I kept trying to click on the Time Lord and the Shadowlord to see if there were any options or quests or whatnot.
Ah well, I still had fun... even on the lagpit of Atlantic!
Maybe the choosing sides part is related to a turn in later? They sure did make it sound like it was part of the event though. I kept trying to click on the Time Lord and the Shadowlord to see if there were any options or quests or whatnot.
Ah well, I still had fun... even on the lagpit of Atlantic!
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imported_Gwyneth
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Maybe the choosing sides part is related to a turn in later?
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Hope not. Some non-fighting types attended, also, out of curiousity (and naturally, did not come away with anything to turn in).
Maybe the choosing sides part is related to a turn in later?
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Hope not. Some non-fighting types attended, also, out of curiousity (and naturally, did not come away with anything to turn in).
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Quoth GalenKnighthawke:<blockquote><hr>
They didn't say "choose your side," they said "Be prepared to choose your loyalties."
I think they were referring to leaving when you had the chance, or remaining to fight the Shadowlords when they spawned.
Some clarification by them would be good, actually.
-Galen's player
[/ QUOTE ]I figured I'd quote him from the other thread, since I was basically gonna say the same thing, here.
They didn't say "choose your side," they said "Be prepared to choose your loyalties."
I think they were referring to leaving when you had the chance, or remaining to fight the Shadowlords when they spawned.
Some clarification by them would be good, actually.
-Galen's player
[/ QUOTE ]I figured I'd quote him from the other thread, since I was basically gonna say the same thing, here.