EC Tutorial - watch 2 new guys try it out

[Yadd of Legends]

I just ran across this Youtube video posted in March called
Fresh Look: Ultima Online in 2016
Two gamers with no apparent previous study of UO download the EC and try out the tutorial
First off, they try to decide between a human and elf character based on looks alone - a popup here explaining the pros and cons of elf and human would have been helpful
They stumble around but eventually figure it out enough to wade through the first few tasks - commendable - and say they're quite enjoying the charm of this archaic atmosphere
They had the hardest time figuring out how to mark a quest item but finally figured out how to click the character to get the menu to pop up (a tip here would have been helpful)
They do everything by clicking the default icons - no wonder it seemed clumsy to them
Made me realize the tutorial should include a few keyboard shortcut tips (i to open inventory, m to open map - and especially CTL Shift to target enemies and corpses) and a suggestion to go into the settings and set your mouse wheel to zoom in and out
Or is that not included because you have the same tutorial for both clients? Dunno, never tried it in CC. Still, EC could have its own tips easily enough
What do you think of their attempt?
EDIT: Correction: the tutorial does give a tip on finding the menu for toggle quest item, as is pointed out in the post below. The players and me all missed it.

 

[Kylie Kinslayer]

They had the hardest time figuring out how to mark a quest item but finally figured out how to click the character to get the menu to pop up (a tip here would have been helpful)

They had that tip as soon as they picked up the worn Katana. They were just focused on a different part of the screen. EC is still too confusing even for me and I have been around a while. They should only let new folks dl the CC

 

[GarthGrey]

Ok, dude knew how the hotbars moved and locked, I"m not buying the "newb" part..He's played with the ec prior to this video.

 

[kelmo]

He is an experienced gamer, GG. Hotbars are not exclusive to EC UO. Just my opinion. I could be wrong, I was once before.

Thanks for posting this video. It was awesome.

 

[kelmo]

No Kylie. No.

 

[kelmo]

Remember that the guy "reviewing" the game gave what part of the tutorial he did a thumbs up. There is hours of playing in New Haven. That is what I hear anyway... I have never been there.

 

[Spartan]

He is an experienced gamer, GG. Hotbars are not exclusive to EC UO. Just my opinion. I could be wrong, I was once before.

Thanks for posting this video. It was awesome.

Holy cow! Kelmo speaks!

But you are right on UO EC not being the only hotbarred client. DAOC at least has it. I haven't touched WoW or EQ2 in ages and can't remember.

 

[petemage]

Haha, of course it must be a big conspiracy when they play the EC and actually enjoy it, right? UHall ftw.

 

[Yadd of Legends]

They had that tip as soon as they picked up the worn Katana. They were just focused on a different part of the screen. EC is still too confusing even for me and I have been around a while. They should only let new folks dl the CC

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Good point that the tutorial did give a tip on finding the toggle quest menu. I missed that one.

 

[Eärendil]

Those two guys are doing it great. The EC looks quite good and seems to be arranged for first use within seconds. The tutorial shows them around nicely and they seem to enjoy it. I think our experienced perspective sometimes distorts our judgement. Does I work? It does. Does it work well? Yes, in quite some respects, very well. Can you figure it out? Yeah, within some minutes. SWTOR-start and -tutorial for example are far worse! Boring, bad designed, too much conversation, zero freedom of choice for hours, weird maneuvering... I should give EC a more thorough try. It looks fine this way.

 

[Winker]

Has anyone tried EVE Online its 10 x more complex than UO

 

[Tyrath]

Just not feeling the love for the EC to actually play with. Nothing against those who like it, it just ain't my thing. I do have a few uses for it though........ Like finding a certain piece of junk in chest full of junk.

 

[Yadd of Legends]

I'd love to see somebody get about a dozen gamers who have never played UO agree to go through the tutorial while making a video like this, half using EC and the other half using CC, and then compare the two groups. That would be marketing research, for which Broadsword mostly likely has no time or money.

 

[kelmo]

Let's drop the whole EC vs CC issue. It is a waste of time to argue. I am not in the mood to argue with any demagogues...

What I enjoyed about the video is that an old time gamer enjoyed playing UO. That is a thing that can be built upon. Nostalgia sells. Uo is a throwback game that never went away.

I see a spark. I have some ideas I will take to the Rusty Dagger.

 

[Zeke]

Good video and yes a lot of games have bars, WoW, Star Wars, etc. One thing he didn't notice was the Checkbox at the bottom of the map to Center on Player, which keeps your dot in the middle of the map and updates as you move. It auto-deselects if you click inside the map and the graphic inside it (zooming in & out does not uncheck the box though).

 

[Eärendil]

I'd love to see somebody get about a dozen gamers who have never played UO agree to go through the tutorial while making a video like this, half using EC and the other half using CC, and then compare the two groups. That would be marketing research, for which Broadsword mostly likely has no time or money.

We can do it online. Just have to find participants... But I promise, EC will win.

 

[MalagAste]

You know there is NO tutorial at all for the CC users... Just saying.

 

[DJAd]

I'd love to see somebody get about a dozen gamers who have never played UO agree to go through the tutorial while making a video like this, half using EC and the other half using CC

They would have to make a tutorial for the classic client first though!

 

[Yadd of Legends]

You know there is NO tutorial at all for the CC users... Just saying.

I asked that Q earlier - you and DJAd are the first ones to answer it. No tutorial at all? That's pretty harsh.

 

[petemage]

They should only let new folks dl the CC

First things they do is adjust music volume.
Second thing is resizing the game window to use all of their screen.
How would they do that in the CC?

 

[MalagAste]

I asked that Q earlier - you and DJAd are the first ones to answer it. No tutorial at all? That's pretty harsh.

Been saying that for years now... The EC tutorial is a bare minimum of what needs to happen and it doesn't even tell them they have a bank account... I don't know how many newbs I ran into who don't know about that and throw all kinds of stuff away and ask me how to pay for stuff that's real expensive when they can't carry much gold. When I show them to the bank they are sad. Most of them don't know what to keep or throw but then that problem has plagued all of us for years.

The CC basically just dumps you in game at Haven near the bank and that's it you're on your own from there. Unless they pick a town which then they wind up wherever with no clue what's going on.

 

[DJAd]

For a BRAND NEW player without any guidance the start of UO is terrible. I feel there are a few simple additions they could add to help out new players:

• Add a couple of quests. Mage and warrior ones to start. Complete the mage quest and get a replica sorcerers suit + FULL spellbook. Complete the warrior quest and get a knights armor suit + weapon. This would be a good start for a new player and give them some basic equipment to get them going. The current new player quest rewards are total junk.
• Give them a runebook with some runes inside. Luna mint etc.
• More starting gold. 1k these days is just not gonna cut it.
• How to mark / recall / gate travel
• Using moongates
• Buying a horse
• How to buy items from NPC
• How to use the bank and money sytem
• How to insure items
• Using vendor search
• Placing a house (along with locking down items etc.)

 

[Yadd of Legends]

Placing a house (along with locking down items etc.)

Good idea. My first house I lost everything in it the first night because nobody told me this

 

[TimberWolf]

I have always been a CC only guy. The only reason I have EC on my computer is to log in and confirm MR and HPR count etc.... once I scroll through the character sheets I would shut it down.

Then I watched this video and thought..." damn that really doesnt look that bad". Then I watched him change the size of his game window and I was like....WTF, I gotta try this!
I spent about 4 hours the other day and set up 2 of my mages ( one pvp and one PVM) in EC. So far I gotta tell ya....I love it so far. Unlimited Hotbars and hot keys assigned to each. Superior targeting and movement.
to just name a couple things.
I run dual monitors my left monitor holds my map...chat..paperdoll...hotbars...backpack... etc. My right monitor is a full sized (21inch) game window.
This is without pincos/uoa/UO cart or anything else. Just the EC.

Look the EC isnt perfect...but it is no worse then the CC. The graphics have started to grow on my too ( it is very diablo ish). And I have been told I havent even gotten to some the best parts of the EC.
All I am says is I use to be a EC hater...but after a few hours....it really is pretty damn nice. Many of the things I hate about the CC have been resolved!

That is just my two cents....

Hate on!!!!

 

[TimberWolf]

Good idea. My first house I lost everything in it the first night because nobody told me this

This is sooo true.

My First UO experience, a girl I was dating bought me the game and a 1 month sub. I told her I wanted to be a blacksmith/miner ( I envisoned a Dwarf). She sat down beside me created a character for me. Placed a tiny little house in tram along beside a mountain some place. she taught me how to log down chests and how to place a trash barrel....went over this a couple times so I didnt lose anything. Passed me a shovel point at the mountains and said...go mine. She gave me a kiss and left for the day. I spent a few hours walking along the mountain saying " I wish to mine here" before giving up!

In hind sight I can laugh at what an idiot I was. But if you think about it honestly...CC isnt exactly user friendly either. I know experience players that need to be shown how to do a lot of things because the game is so damn glitchy.

( This was around 2003-2004 I believe, nothing in the CC game play wise has really changed since then)

 

[Kirthag]

I'm with you Timberwolf. I still prefer the CC, but I did set up my Tamer in the EC and having all the hotbars is awesome for that.
Graphics still give me a headache though. I did notice these guys mentioned the graphics are muddy for them as well.

I don't think the EC is a waste, the graphics need something though.

 

[TimberWolf]

graphics dont bother me as much as I thought they would...they are starting to grow on me.