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Downloading a patch (approx 65 Megs) : Pub 69 ?

popps

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Upon logging into UO the patching prompted me to download an about 65 megs patch.

Is this Publish 69 ? Or what is it ?
 

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Let me guess...

OMFG 65MB IN SIZE WTFLOLOLOLOLOL WHAT IS THIS SHIET!!1 SO BIG LOLWTFLOLOLOLOL I HAVE TO WAIT!!!!?? WHY IS UO REQUIRE BROADBAND INTERNET TO PLAY LOLOLOWTF UNFAIR.
 

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Let me guess...

OMFG 65MB IN SIZE WTFLOLOLOLOLOL WHAT IS THIS SHIET!!1 SO BIG LOLWTFLOLOLOLOL I HAVE TO WAIT!!!!?? WHY IS UO REQUIRE BROADBAND INTERNET TO PLAY LOLOLOWTF UNFAIR.
Uhu ??

I just wanted to know what the patch is about.

Is that too much to ask ?? Perhaps it is some sort of a question that should or cannot be asked for some weird reasons ??
 

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I'm sure it's just the client patch in preparation for pub 69 going live. I believe the publish notes are on UO.com.
 

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Probably
New animations + some new items
But is it then Pub 69 which was put on the Test server only yesterday ?

One day on Test to then do a general release on all production servers ?
 

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But is it then Pub 69 which was put on the Test server only yesterday ?

One day on Test to then do a general release on all production servers ?
I suppose that if you actually took time to read the notes, you might have figured out what the patch was all about? Popps turned into poops again. :(
 

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I'm sure it's just the client patch in preparation for pub 69 going live. I believe the publish notes are on UO.com.

If so, then the actual publish 69 to all production servers should be very close (i.e. nothing needs be changed...), otherwise why patch the client first with this download if there is anything to revise or fix ?
 

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I suppose that if you actually took time to read the notes, you might have figured out what the patch was all about?
Below is the link to the latest available Publish notes I could find which mention 6 December (today is 8th) and mention Test server, not production shards.

I do not see any reference in regards to a patch download for December 8th (today).



 

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Upon logging into UO the patching prompted me to download an about 65 megs patch.

Is this Publish 69 ? Or what is it ?
Popps, are you capable of doing anything regarding UO without having to document it on these forums? You don't need to tell us that you're downloading a patch that we will all inevitably download as well. Assuming that you did download this patch before every other single player in UO, you would be the first person to know what the patch is about, thus making it pointless to ask anyone else. I mean seriously, you couldn't find anything better to do in the two minutes it took to download it?

Below is the link to the latest available Publish notes I could find which mention 6 December (today is 8th) and mention Test server, not production shards.

I do not see any reference in regards to a patch download for December 8th (today).
Perhaps you should contact EA and notify them that they are not permitted to take any action regarding UO without your prior knowledge.
 

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Updates to our game generally take place in two stages. The client patch and the server publish. We usually patch the clients before going to TC1 because many of the server publish changes rely on having an updated client. Without the client updates, players would not be able to properly test the update on the test center. This means that you guys as players get some of the changes for the update before the publish actually goes worldwide (in this case the snow)

When you look at the TC1 publish notes on the UOHerald, you will notice a section towards the bottom for client. These are the changes that you will receive ahead of the actual publish in the client patch.

Hopefully I didn't confuse you guys even more with this information. :)
 

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Updates to our game generally take place in two stages. The client patch and the server publish. We usually patch the clients before going to TC1 because many of the server publish changes rely on having an updated client. Without the client updates, players would not be able to properly test the update on the test center. This means that you guys as players get some of the changes for the update before the publish actually goes worldwide (in this case the snow)

When you look at the TC1 publish notes on the UOHerald, you will notice a section towards the bottom for client. These are the changes that you will receive ahead of the actual publish in the client patch.

Hopefully I didn't confuse you guys even more with this information. :)
YAY! I see you have more patience than the average bear. ;)
 

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It's ALWAYS been true, that if any graphic is new, instead of being a rehued existing item, that you needed a patch to see it properly on TC.

Similarly, it's ALWAYS been true that if something has a new name, you need a client patch to see it on TC (and that's where those cliloc error names like those from the Abyss house events come from - someone forgot to stick them into a patch, and they don't have real names, just error messages, until patched).

Either of these can keep something (especially holiday/anniversary gifts and vet rewards) from being tested properly.

Anyone that has played long enough to earn any vet rewards, trying to act like they don't know this by this point in the game, are being deliberately deceitful.


That said, that 65 MB patch was UGLY with a capital "Two grocery bags, PLEASE!!!!"

I have broadband (cable), and that 65 MB Classic Client patch took me over an hour to download (though it installed in perhaps 1 minute after the DL was complete). Cumulative Patches TEN TIMES that size, for either client, never took me that long to download AND install, even when installing the EC for the first time, or reinstalling the CC.

Was everyone downloading the patch at the same time, putting the update server hamsters into cardiac arrest???
 
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You probably got into the patcher issues phase.
Downloaded it in minute(s) :p
 

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Below is the link to the latest available Publish notes I could find which mention 6 December (today is 8th) and mention Test server, not production shards.

I do not see any reference in regards to a patch download for December 8th (today).
I would like to thank the OP for my daily dose of WTF. Thank you Poops.
 
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Nope that was patch 70. Some of us got it ahead of time for our 13th annversary gift.
 

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It's ALWAYS been true, that if any graphic is new, instead of being a rehued existing item, that you needed a patch to see it properly on TC.

But since the "Publish Notes" at http://www.uoherald.com/node/288

Start with

Test Center Update - Publish 69 Available Today!
James Nichols
6 Dec 2010 17:57:43 EST
And today is the 8th which is 2 days past the 6th, I assumed that the "patch to see the TC new graphic on Test Server" had already been done, either on the 6th or prior to that.

Otherwise, why patch the Test server on the 6th if the players do not have the updated client to see whatever is new ??

Therefore, I assumed that whatever we were getting today, the 8th, had to be not related to what was patched onto the Test server the 6th "unless", it was the actual Pub 69 general publish.

But since I had not seen any announcement for a general publish of Pub 69 I was doubtful of that hypothesis as well.

So, I remained wondering what today's patch was all about and thought to ask.
 

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I think we need to make the NEWS threads a different colour so that popps can read and answer his own questions before posting :p

And how can people test the Publish if the client doesn't have the neccessary files?

The process seems to make logical sense to me.
 

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Poops...all these deep and universe affecting questions probably have your head hurting.

I am thinking the lack on comprehending all these pressing issues must be frustrating..nay..possibly painful. Maybe it would be best if you turned off the computer and took a nap?

Maybe after a little nap time, these things won't plague you so much.

Nothing but love for ya little buddy!
 

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Popps, did you skip Supreems post? You understand that with publish 69 being tested you will encounter changes being made to test which will include bug fixes and whatnot right? Are you just mad that your other thread was locked and feel a need to argue some more?
 

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And how can people test the Publish if the client doesn't have the neccessary files?

I think there may be some confusion here.....

I agree on the fact that clients should get patched first and then Test Server get patched because, as you said, "how can people test the Publish if the client doesn't have the neccessary files? ".

Now, let's see at the 2 dates, the 6th and the 8th (today).

What gets patched the 6th ? The players clients ? Nope, it is test which gets patched.

Then, 2 days later, the 8th (today), we get this 65 megs patch which (supposedly) is needed to patch the clients so that players can go to Test and check out the new stuff.

But wait ! Test already received its stuff the 6th, didn't it ?

From the "Publish Notes" at http://www.uoherald.com/node/288

Test Center Update - Publish 69 Available Today!
James Nichols
6 Dec 2010 17:57:43 EST
So, the logic would let one think clients first, test after instead, if the 6th and the 8th patches are related, my assumption is that we got the other way around, Test first and clients only 2 days later (today....).

That is why I thought today's patch could not be related to the Test's of December 6th and I guessed it could be regarding something else. And that is why I thought to ask.

Clearer now ?
 
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I think there may be some confusion here.....

I agree on the fact that clients should get patched first and then Test Server get patched because, as you said, "how can people test the Publish if the client doesn't have the neccessary files? ".

Now, let's see at the 2 dates, the 6th and the 8th (today).

What gets patched the 6th ? The players clients ? Nope, it is test which gets patched.

Then, 2 days later, the 8th (today), we get this 65 megs patch which (supposedly) is needed to patch the clients so that players can go to Test and check out the new stuff.

But wait ! Test already received its stuff the 6th, didn't it ?

From the "Publish Notes" at http://www.uoherald.com/node/288



So, the logic would let one think clients first, test after instead, if the 6th and the 8th patches are related, my assumption is that we got the other way around, Test first and clients only 2 days later (today....).

That is why I thought today's patch could not be related to the Test's of December 6th and I guessed it could be regarding something else. And that is why I thought to ask.

Clearer now ?
Lets just clear something up since you wish to pretend to be logical.

You claim that you should patch first and then test, so if it was UP on test center on the 6th, then logically you patched that already? So why in the world would you ask if it was "pub 69" being released to prodo shards? You do understand we do not need a client patch for ANY publish to go to a prodo shard once it is on test right? You logic is flawed and you are not trying to figure anything out when you answer your own questions and then pretend like it made sense to ask.

I mean look at the last thing you wrote "That is why I thought today's patch could not be related to the Test's of December 6th and I guessed it could be regarding something else. And that is why I thought to ask." But yet you asked "is this pub 69" explicitly proving that you thought it was the same exact patch that should have come out days ago.
 

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Cloak‡1871053 said:
Lets just clear something up since you wish to pretend to be logical.

You claim that you should patch first and then test, so if it was UP on test center on the 6th, then logically you patched that already? So why in the world would you ask if it was "pub 69" being released to prodo shards? You do understand we do not need a client patch for ANY publish to go to a prodo shard once it is on test right? You logic is flawed and you are not trying to figure anything out when you answer your own questions and then pretend like it made sense to ask.

I mean look at the last thing you wrote "That is why I thought today's patch could not be related to the Test's of December 6th and I guessed it could be regarding something else. And that is why I thought to ask." But yet you asked "is this pub 69" explicitly proving that you thought it was the same exact patch that should have come out days ago.

I did not say it was Pub 69 as a stated fact, I asked it as a question using a question mark....

And, in the starting post, I closed my query asking "Is this Publish 69 ? Or what is it ? "..........
 

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Why is this even an issue? This isn't a place for debates on speculation!
 

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Why is this even an issue? This isn't a place for debates on speculation!

I simply wanted to know what today's patch was all about, it is not my fault if it grew into debates and speculations.....

I posted a simple and plain question and I was jumped at (as usual...) and I simply went on defending myself.

Nothing more and nothing else.
 

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I simply wanted to know what today's patch was all about, it is not my fault if it grew into debates and speculations.....

I posted a simple and plain question and I was jumped at (as usual...) and I simply went on defending myself.

Nothing more and nothing else.
Yes people jumped at you as usual, but you also got answers and then as usual you started arguing with the answers with speculation.
 

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Oh, and popps, go here :

http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/229544-[uo-herald]-test-center-1-update-12-08-10-a.html

Everyone told you so. Enough with your conspiracy theories.

That info is available now, it was not when I posted my initial query.
At that time (when I posted), the only patch update available was the one related to the Test server for December 6th. I know, because when I was prompted to download the patch the very first place I went to is the UOHerald to see what it was all about and could only find the news about the December 6th update, not today's......
 

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I simply wanted to know what today's patch was all about, it is not my fault if it grew into debates and speculations.....

I posted a simple and plain question and I was jumped at (as usual...) and I simply went on defending myself.

Nothing more and nothing else.
Yes people jumped at you as usual, but you also got answers and then as usual you started arguing with the answers with speculation.

REALLY ???

Please, scroll up to the very second post after my initial query (post #2) and please tell me what kind of an answer is that to the simple and plain question I was merely asking.........

Give me a break......
 

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Give you a break? Please, maybe you should read the entire thread like I did. All I see is your initial question, followed up by your question again then nothing but speculation and arguments from you, people giving you answers, and some trolls.
 

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Updates to our game generally take place in two stages. The client patch and the server publish. We usually patch the clients before going to TC1 because many of the server publish changes rely on having an updated client. Without the client updates, players would not be able to properly test the update on the test center. This means that you guys as players get some of the changes for the update before the publish actually goes worldwide (in this case the snow)

When you look at the TC1 publish notes on the UOHerald, you will notice a section towards the bottom for client. These are the changes that you will receive ahead of the actual publish in the client patch.

Hopefully I didn't confuse you guys even more with this information. :)

Thank you Supreem!
 

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And, to add to Supreem's bit...

Occasionally, the TC server changes will hit before the client changes (due to something holding up the client release), and you get messages in the TC publish notes to the effect of

"These changes will not appear (or you will get name or graphical errors) until the client is patched."

Someone want to go looking into some of the old TC publishes for messages to that effect?
 

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This is new on the EC. Perform Full File Check. Seems to go through all files when you check the box.

 

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It's ALWAYS been true, that if any graphic is new, instead of being a rehued existing item, that you needed a patch to see it properly on TC.

Similarly, it's ALWAYS been true that if something has a new name, you need a client patch to see it on TC (and that's where those cliloc error names like those from the Abyss house events come from - someone forgot to stick them into a patch, and they don't have real names, just error messages, until patched).

Either of these can keep something (especially holiday/anniversary gifts and vet rewards) from being tested properly.

Anyone that has played long enough to earn any vet rewards, trying to act like they don't know this by this point in the game, are being deliberately deceitful.
Yup.


That said, that 65 MB patch was UGLY with a capital "Two grocery bags, PLEASE!!!!"

I have broadband (cable), and that 65 MB Classic Client patch took me over an hour to download (though it installed in perhaps 1 minute after the DL was complete). Cumulative Patches TEN TIMES that size, for either client, never took me that long to download AND install, even when installing the EC for the first time, or reinstalling the CC.

Was everyone downloading the patch at the same time, putting the update server hamsters into cardiac arrest???
Took me 3 mins to complete the download and finish applying the patch in CC :D Didn't note the time for EC, but was pretty quick as well.

So probably overtaxed patch server when you were patching.
 

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Pops do you have a job?
Can we dispense with the personal attacks and the bullying please? If you don't like what he's posted, just don't respond. There's no need to use it as an opportunity to be nasty in a way that hopefully most of us left behind on the 6th grade playground...
 

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Can we dispense with the personal attacks and the bullying please? If you don't like what he's posted, just don't respond. There's no need to use it as an opportunity to be nasty in a way that hopefully most of us left behind on the 6th grade playground...
QFT.

I am watching.
 
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