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Devs - Shields?

MalagAste

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Only if you give me some bonus on my Bow...... I don't get any shield. *scowls*

NO!
 

Xalan Dementia

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use reforging to get HCI. try a lower to mid level runic with just the Of Slaughter category to get HCI on a blank you can then imbue onto.
I do agree on shields needing 500 weight for exceptional.
 

Cogniac

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Just bring back HCI on shields in general.

Anyone remember when Wilki said he had no idea why HCI would be on shields? Yeah, because having a large piece of metal to prevent your opponent's attempts to stab you in the eyeballs wouldn't allow you to be more accurate in your attacks.
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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Yeah, I remember that. Just imagine what he would say now that SSI is on shields.........
 

MalagAste

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Bow already have a bonus. Its called 25 hci/dci cap and not having to stand within a 1 tile range
All of which you get on your weapon..... save the 1 tile range.... so you get a weapon and a shield doubling the amount of things you can add to improve your characters stats.... meanwhile I get 1. NOT that much of a bonus for the lose of a full set of things you can put on a shield.
 

Hunters' Moon

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All of which you get on your weapon..... save the 1 tile range.... so you get a weapon and a shield doubling the amount of things you can add to improve your characters stats.... meanwhile I get 1. NOT that much of a bonus for the lose of a full set of things you can put on a shield.
And you get the balanced mod where two handed melee weapons do not. There should be advantages and disadvantages to each skill set.
 

Driven Insane

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All of which you get on your weapon..... save the 1 tile range.... so you get a weapon and a shield doubling the amount of things you can add to improve your characters stats.... meanwhile I get 1. NOT that much of a bonus for the lose of a full set of things you can put on a shield.

Good grief, do you only have 1 character and therefore you only care about your dumb bow? Guess what none of my melee chars has a shield, only a couple mages.

Go make your own thread about how underpowered archery is compared to melee and stop trolling this thread.
 

Driven Insane

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Just bring back HCI on shields in general.

Anyone remember when Wilki said he had no idea why HCI would be on shields? Yeah, because having a large piece of metal to prevent your opponent's attempts to stab you in the eyeballs wouldn't allow you to be more accurate in your attacks.
Yep, and it made no sense at that time either and considering that you can put HCI on with Reforging and that many new artifact shields have been added that have HCI on them, it's pretty clear that HCI not being on shields is not set in stone.

C'mon Devs.

1. Let us imbue shields to 500 (if exceptional).
2. Let us imbue HCI on shields.
3. Make HCI spawn on monster loot again (outside of the revamped dungeons).
 

MalagAste

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I'm not trolling I'm just saying that you don't need more than you have. Shush up and quit yer bellyaching.
 

MalagAste

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And you get the balanced mod where two handed melee weapons do not. There should be advantages and disadvantages to each skill set.
Do you Imbue????? Do you have any idea the WEIGHT of Imbuing Balanced onto a bow??????

It takes up so much it makes it utterly useless.
 

Phangs_of_Phage

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Do you Imbue????? Do you have any idea the WEIGHT of Imbuing Balanced onto a bow??????

It takes up so much it makes it utterly useless.
Please find 1 pvp archer that thinks balanced on a bow is useless. Melee get a 15/15 cap for HCI/DCI and the one tile range is a big deal lol. Not to mention the mase damage on the useful bows are higher than the majority of melee weapons.
I could be wrong but I thought you could only reforge 5 HCI on a shield? If I'm right with that then 15DCI+5HCI=20 15+15 on wep is 30... 30+20=50 for melee. 25+25=50 for archery. So using basic math skills I can say that 50=50. But either way DCI and HCI are easy to get on suits so I cant think of a viable way to have both on a bow or a weapon (shields are the exception duh).
Anyway to say that Archery needs a bump is insane, it is pretty much perfect where it is. Throwing needs a nerf base damage way way to high but thats another story.
I really think HCI should be imbueable on shields, but I'm not opposed to being able to reforge it, who really uses shields anyways besides new players and parry mages?
I agree that shields should have a 500 cap why wouldnt they.
 

cazador

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I'd agree with hci with no weapon equipped 3 sec heals is enough 45/45 dci hci 100 di 40 lmc is very easily obtained..


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Driven Insane

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3 sec heals is enough
Isn't 4 secs the max heal time.

45/45 dci hci 100 di 40 lmc is very easily obtained.
This isn't about whether something is easily attainable, it's about consistency. Adding the above mentioned suggestions according to you and everyone else doesn't really change what's already obtainable, so why can't we be consistent and have shields at 500 weight like everything else and have HCI imbuable and spawn on loot for the simple sake of consistency.
 

NBG

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10 HCI shield can be made using reforging with heartwood enhance.
 

Phangs_of_Phage

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10 HCI shield can be made using reforging with heartwood enhance.
Yeah, I know you could enhance for HCI but i was takling about reforging itself. You can also add up to 30 on a bow by enhancing correct? I could be wrong about that.
 

Promathia

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Honestly, shields are great with reforging.

Why do you need HCI on a shield anyways? You can have HCI onnnnnnnnn 1. Ring 2. Brace 3. Weapon 4. 5-10 on armor pieces (Gorget, sleeves, gloves, tunic, legs) 5. 15 on Head 6. 5-10 on Talisman 7. Reforged Shield with 10 HCI

^ If all is maxed out, thats a total of 130 possible HCI on a suit.


** I just want to add, I think it was REALLY stupid when it got removed. But since then Imbuing, and moreso reforging have really made it a nonissue
 

Phangs_of_Phage

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Honestly, shields are great with reforging.

Why do you need HCI on a shield anyways? You can have HCI onnnnnnnnn 1. Ring 2. Brace 3. Weapon 4. 5-10 on armor pieces (Gorget, sleeves, gloves, tunic, legs) 5. 15 on Head 6. 5-10 on Talisman 7. Reforged Shield with 10 HCI

^ If all is maxed out, thats a total of 130 possible HCI on a suit.


** I just want to add, I think it was REALLY stupid when it got removed. But since then Imbuing, and moreso reforging have really made it a nonissue
The same could be said with DCI and many other things. But I agree it really is a nonissue.
 

Driven Insane

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The same could be said with DCI and many other things. But I agree it really is a nonissue.
Yes, HCI on shields is not a big deal, but I still don't see any reason why it's not Imbuable. As you pointed out, alot of mods are easy to attain. DCI, FC, DI, MR, MI, SI, etc, etc. But please tell me why we cannot just be consistent and allow HCI increase to be Imbuable?

I'll admit though, I really just threw the HCI issue onto this topic when my real beef was not being able to Imbue shields to 500. I was trying to improve my mystic/mage's shield the other day from this:
2 Str Increase
15% DCI
SC (no penalty)

to this:
5 HPI
15% DCI
SC (no penalty)

I could not do this because of the 450 cap, but would be able to with 500. I don't see how making shields Imbuable to 500 would unbalance anything or cause some major problem.
 
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Sevin0oo0

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This isn't about whether something is easily attainable, it's about consistency. ... so why can't we be consistent and have shields at 500 weight like everything else and have HCI imbuable and spawn on loot for the simple sake of consistency.
/signed. If it has weight it needs to be the same as others. Taken the other extreme... green sashes should have 1000weight, on tuesdays. kilts have 53, cloth shirt 78.
 

Obsidian

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I agree. Exceptional shields should have 500 max imbuing weight.
 
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