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Dear Devs, Please revisit area spells again and make them right

Uriah Heep

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Wither, does great damage to all mobs in radius. Mana cost = 23

Chain Lightning and meteor swarm, damage is divided up among mobs, if there are many of them in radius of damage damage is way way low to each. Mana cost = 40.

How bout letting the grand ole mage spells have the same output/usefulness as the necro spell? Not asking for a nerf to wither, just a boost to mage area spells to be on the same damage level.
 

Aran

Always Present
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I agree, why can't I kill an entire room of people in two quick casts? My mage is underpowered. Also get rid of pet slots again.
 

Merus

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Wither, does great damage to all mobs in radius. Mana cost = 23

Chain Lightning and meteor swarm, damage is divided up among mobs, if there are many of them in radius of damage damage is way way low to each. Mana cost = 40.

How bout letting the grand ole mage spells have the same output/usefulness as the necro spell? Not asking for a nerf to wither, just a boost to mage area spells to be on the same damage level.
At least you can boost CL and MS with slayer damage... wither damage can't be.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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At least you can boost CL and MS with slayer damage... wither damage can't be.
Wither has no reduction based upon the number of targets like CL and MS do. Not saying wither is OP, but chain lightning, meteor swarm, and 8th level summons could use a refresh.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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I agree, why can't I kill an entire room of people in two quick casts? My mage is underpowered. Also get rid of pet slots again.
180 sdi withers will clear things out fairly quick. :)

I would still rather use an AoE wep and whirlwind over spamming wither....
 

Lord Gandalf

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Wither has no reduction based upon the number of targets like CL and MS do. Not saying wither is OP, but chain lightning, meteor swarm, and 8th level summons could use a refresh.
Then we have to put hail storm and nether cyclone on the table?

I agree though, instead of nerfing wither those area spells need to be adjusted
 

BeaIank

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I have always found it to be odd that mages on UO have such poor AoE damage spells, specially compared to dexxers.
Those spells could use some revisiting, at least for PvM.
 

Gorath

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Straight mages are useless at spawns. I would like Chain Lightning and Meteor Swarm to be useful.....wither is effected by SDI...you can get crazy damage. Not about over powering but rather balancing.
 

SpyderBite

Lore Master
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Do whatever you want with mage damage as long as remains the same as it is for PvP. A flock of mages are already annoying enough.
 

TB Cookie [W]

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Do whatever you want with mage damage as long as remains the same as it is for PvP. A flock of mages are already annoying enough.

Wouldn't want to upset the dominance of weapon users in PvP.

AoS revisited - the AoS superstars are loving it.
 

GarthGrey

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Yeah, earthquake doesn't do enough coming from Red Mages..lets boost other spells too so they can kill everything hidden around them 2 screens away....balance afterall.
 

TB Cookie [W]

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Yeah, earthquake doesn't do enough coming from Red Mages..lets boost other spells too so they can kill everything hidden around them 2 screens away....balance afterall.
You any idea how long an EQ takes to cast?
How many times do you genuinely see lvl 7 and 8 circle spells cast in PvP?

By the time an EQ is cast, most weapon users, would have killed a mage 3 x over.
 

Turbo

Adventurer
I would like them to remove the casting restrictions from ninja forms and horrific beast etc. They might actually be useful then
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Then we have to put hail storm and nether cyclone on the table?

I agree though, instead of nerfing wither those area spells need to be adjusted
Hail storm is still potent, but it is slow as crap and expensive to boot. Nether cyclone is poop, beaten to death with a nerf stick I assume sometime in the last 5 years?

Yep, both should be on the table for adjustments with the other spells...

*tips hat*
 

Restroom Cowboy

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I would like them to remove the casting restrictions from ninja forms and horrific beast etc. They might actually be useful then
Horrific beast maybe, ninja forms not so much. In pvp animal form has proven to be a nightmare in the past, because without restriction there is no counter to it. (a majority of pvpers were using ninja on their factioners before it was capped due to forms being overpowered)
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Do whatever you want with mage damage as long as remains the same as it is for PvP. A flock of mages are already annoying enough.
I don't see how this would affect pvp. Damage is capped for these spells, and I would assume the devs. would keep these caps in place if they ever decided to make changes.

I cannot deny that it would be fun though to toss a 100 dmg meteor swarm at some poor unsuspecting ninja stealther...
 

805connection

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Wither, does great damage to all mobs in radius. Mana cost = 23

Chain Lightning and meteor swarm, damage is divided up among mobs, if there are many of them in radius of damage damage is way way low to each. Mana cost = 40.

How bout letting the grand ole mage spells have the same output/usefulness as the necro spell? Not asking for a nerf to wither, just a boost to mage area spells to be on the same damage level.
I would suggest Fire Field does more damage, maybe a ignite that does bleed overtime for 5 seconds
 
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