My thoughts too, Totally disagree with scripting but I'm not with those who kill them either. Just call a GM and leave.
To kinda quote Kelso off the 70's show.... What has two thumbs and likes dead scripters...
This guy lolNot sure what shard ya play on but they are still pretty rampant on Atlantic.
.. All I know is when I got back the scripter made a B-line straight for the Drake and began taming. Yes, the drake was wild when I got back and don't know if the other guy turned it loose, OR if the drake just happened to go wild due to inattention {nudge-nudge wink-wink} 
Scripting will always exist as long as the 2d client exists. Those programs will not work with any other client.
Of course, Petra, if the course of the rail being ran would take the person out of the guard zone in a couple iterations (a rail that ran between two local spots, as opposed to one that involved the scripter recalling, where movement at the spot gated to would be blocked, resulting in an altered course once or twice along the way), you could have gotten in trouble.
I'm pretty sure if they got rid of the 2d client it would't take long for someone to tweak the program to run on the new client. I gave UO a rest for about 6 months after I came to the conclusion that the Devs really wasn't going to do anything about cheating and gave some of the free facebook games a try, and it was nice for a while until the longer I played the more I realized there were more bot players that UO ever had and all the developers of those games were interested in was throwing more content that you had to spam "please send me this" or spend real money. I ended up saying screw this I'll go back to UO. Bottom line, any game where there is competition there will be those that will cheat its just that some people do more to combat the problem than others. Just wish UO would at least try.
Reality dictates this, however, patience also dictates that those who had time to write the original scripts no longer has that kind of time. In fact, I am aware that there has been no recent involvement in programming that original platform, except for the free shards that use the 2d client, or some variation, exclusively. As it is, the move towards developing for the EC is slow and so time-consuming that those not willing to learn a new programming language are loath to venture forward, even if the 2d client no longer existed. Bottom line is that the tools necessay to script the EC do not exist.
I'm pretty sure there are already scripts out there for the EC client.
Not complicated at all ... just illegal.
That's easy. In fact, it happens automatically whenever there's a patch. Then the scripters modify their program so that it works again.
You don't understand that EA don't ban the scripters, because a scripter pay a monthly fee, like anyone else, and EA want the ca$h
i think the issue with this is that many of the 'scripts' that make money, drop books, and farm up tons of resources are from UOAssist itself. it is just very simple to write complex macros that do the work for you, while still being at the computer, on multiple accounts. there would have to be A LOT to make this game un-'scriptable' and the enhanced client is really one of the best ways to do this. considering i can't even get my UOAssist to run enhanced client, there is no way to run macros for me. i'm sure this doesn't stop people from using other 3rd party programs with enhanced client, but to act like UOA isn't responsible for some of this, is just irresponsible.
That was the reason I posted the original story. Never thought it would spin off into the deep end of the pool.
Highly doubt there are any cheat type of scripts out there for the EC, not like I have looked but it is highly doubtful given the interest in UO and the focus of the people who actually do code this stuff being taken to other mediums. (work and such)
I think it would be longer than most people think, for one it is not as easy, for two the focus on uo is low, and for three 99% of all cheaters are just users, none of them could even modify the code of the scripts they are using, let alone the code of the program, or even program a cheat themselves. (not grouping most UO players in here, just the cheating group at the current stage)
Nearly impossibly actually.
How is it illegal? It is their right to allow you to use the game or not, so limiting your ability to do so based on what is running is not illegal. If you need legal proof of this just look to WoW and their lawsuit that basically makes it legal for them to search any part of your computer while you are interacting with their game. I agree the justification is low, but then the programs in question are basically only built for this one function, so you could base your justification on what they are meant to do from the creation side, not what they could do from a finalized project side. But of course with the way things are going, and how they are, it is nearly impossible for them to even detect a cheat program on a computer, and aside from a re-write of the 2d client it is impossible for them to check for what is hooking to the client (unless I am mistaken and they could add this more easily than how I am thinking currently) Also mostly impossible for them to check to see what is catching and reading memory before it gets to the client in the first place. Lot of reasons why this will never work, they can never prove who is cheating aside from looking at a player and taking it upon themselves to be a judge and say "ok that's impossible ban them" But do you all really want that? Consider for a moment the kind of CS we currently have, GMs who are not even aware of the name of the game you play? Do you want them to judge?Not complicated at all ... just illegal.
Edit: If you know the specifics of the program to block, it might be possible. However, just like viruses and spyware, developers of the cheat programs can very well disguise their programs to mimick legitimate programs. Greater still, a script is a sub-component of a larger program (engine) and you cannot deprive a player from running the larger program for other purposes while playing the game. It would be very difficult to determine the underlying script. Even that script engine containing UO in its name can refine its offline purpose, making it nearly impossible to justify depriving players from playing UO while it is running. The cat will never catch the mouse in this cat and mouse instance.
Curious, are you saying that cheating is stopping you from pvping currently? Or is it just abuse of certain bugs? (such as the mystic double interrupt currently) I have never felt I lost to someone who cheated....And only once or twice did I feel cheated of a kill due to what I thought was cheating (but I could be wrong thus never accused the party)
