Curiosity.. what's the point/use of battle chickens?

[legendsguy]

I think the battle chicken lizards are cute in their own way, but i'm not sure what the point of them is? i mean, are we actually going to be battling with each other or is there some quest that involves them or what?

i don't think i've ever before pitted one of my creatures against someone elses so... is this suppose to create some sort of cage match thing or? i just don't see the point! thanks

 

[Naigen]

personally i think they are a mega cool thing
im not sure what devs are thinking, but can be used for roleplaying haha
you know its just like cock fighting. I think maybe in the future devs might put in some events for chicken lizard fighting? who knows

personally if i could be bothered and you could find sponsers you could have set up a battle chicken tournament where the winner takes home a 1 million cheque? haha just some idea's id thought id throw in

oh i forgot you can set up a bet system! of battle chickens haha

 

[SpaceYourFace]

Instead of chickens they shoulda used puppies, and you could have a rare chance to breed a Michael Vick battle puppie.

 

[Taylor]

I think the battle chicken lizards are cute in their own way, but i'm not sure what the point of them is? i mean, are we actually going to be battling with each other or is there some quest that involves them or what?

i don't think i've ever before pitted one of my creatures against someone elses so... is this suppose to create some sort of cage match thing or? i just don't see the point! thanks

Over the years, many guilds have hosted chicken or mongbat fights. For some guilds, chicken fighting is a regular event, which has lead members of these guilds to train their chickens up to 4x GM.

The Battle Lizards idea is simply Mythic's way of creating an official outlet for these types of events. You can now breed, raise, and train your battle chicken lizards and fight them with your friends' pets.

That's the idea, in a nutshell.

 

[milk]

Instead of chickens they shoulda used puppies, and you could have a rare chance to breed a Michael Vick battle puppie.

oi... -__-...... :bowdown:

 

[Scarab]

Instead of chickens they shoulda used puppies, and you could have a rare chance to breed a Michael Vick battle puppie.

if you think about it, this really is a highly offensive "system"

 

[SpaceYourFace]

I dont think people get upset in this game over chicken fights because we eat chickens. If it was the other way around and society ate puppies and kept chickens as pets then people would be throwing a fit. Just like you dont see people with save the cow signs. I bet if you tried to set up an event where everyone tamed dogs and you had 5 mill top prize for the last dog left alive the UO population would flip out.

Personaly I dont see a problem with battle chickens and chicken fights because I understand its a game. I also think its kinda funny how people pick and choose what animals are allright to kill based on how cute they are.

 

[uoBuoY]

I dont think people get upset in this game over chicken fights because we eat chickens. If it was the other way around and society ate puppies and kept chickens as pets then people would be throwing a fit. Just like you dont see people with save the cow signs. I bet if you tried to set up an event where everyone tamed dogs and you had 5 mill top prize for the last dog left alive the UO population would flip out.

Personaly I dont see a problem with battle chickens and chicken fights because I understand its a game. I also think its kinda funny how people pick and choose what animals are allright to kill based on how cute they are.

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[AtlanticVlad]

Its poorly implemented sure we have breed able Chicken Esq things now... But there's still no good way to fight them That's what they should have spent there Dev Time On... So people don't need to leave there guilds and such and Arena with Fell rules just for the battle chickens... or preferably for pets in general... that doesn't effect players.

I personally Have had a Maxed out chicken for some time now... I don't see the point of introducing new almost chickens with out a way to fight them.

 

[RichDC]

The reason these have been introduced is because of Great Lakes!

There has been a weekly even for years now called...Chicken Fight Club!

Great Fun! I have trained some of the most stupid pets to fight at this fiesta, from chickens to imps, neon purple bunnies to changeling dogs, hiryus to Greater Dragons.

Whatever you pet killing fancy...even pack llamas! You can find competition!

Come check it out, Saturdays 8pm CST (i think, it might be 7) gates are provided at Major banks! You can even bet on the fights.

I personally Have had a Maxed out chicken for some time now... I don't see the point of introducing new almost chickens with out a way to fight them

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Its acutally done very easily, you just join there guild for the duration of the tourney.

 

[AtlanticVlad]

Yes I know that method but as the GM of my own very small guild that's never sat well with me its just a mess for myself. I wish they would introduce another way allow players to give part of there how fel rule set maybe... with a warning of course that could make all sorts of things interesting =) but would probably be abused could do it only for pets though

 

[Scarab]

I also think its kinda funny how people pick and choose what animals are allright to kill based on how cute they are.

That's a fairly naïve statement. It's not the killing that is the issue, but the manner of the killing. If you'd ever seen the razor blade "talons" that get strapped to roosters' feet for real cock fights, you might understand

 

[Old Man of UO]

... If you'd ever seen the razor blade "talons" that get strapped to roosters' feet for real cock fights, you might understand

I use razor blades on my arrows. Does that count?

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

Yes I know that method but as the GM of my own very small guild that's never sat well with me its just a mess for myself. I wish they would introduce another way allow players to give part of there how fel rule set maybe... with a warning of course that could make all sorts of things interesting =) but would probably be abused could do it only for pets though

I would think that either EA/Mythic or the shard GM/EM could implement special rules for the Jhelom "Jhelom Dueling Pit", that would facilitate this.

Or I seem to remember that DD did put in a Duel option way back in the Bad Old Days. If that is valid, I would think it could be revamped to facilitate Pet vs Pet in a Duel.

I wouldn't think it that much of a stretch. One person initiates the action, the other(s) agree to it and the Pets engage in combat.

Come to think of it, if all participants are honorable, then the Duel would work, if it is still around. The contestants simply have their pets attack each other.

 

[CFC Rachel]

IT'S FUN!!!
Chicken Fight Club was an idea started by a group of friends many years ago (The Zoates) as a way for folks to have just a little fun. Why chickens? well thats because everyone can own, train and fight one....no taming required. Other pets have been added along the way, but most folks come to see the 4x GM chickens go at it.
We would love to find a way to let folks fight thier pet without having to leave thier guild or faction. It a great place to see some of the best pets in game...from the chicken, blue beetle, goat,to the mighty Greater Dragon.
I am lucky enough to work with a great staff who makes this event happen every week, just for the fun of it.
Our fights open to everyone, every saturday night at 8est, gates from luna bank.

 

[Scarab]

I use razor blades on my arrows. Does that count?

there's really no point talking to you people about this issue

 

[Old Man of UO]

there's really no point talking to you people about this issue

There's really no point in trying to compare real life chicken or dog fighting and comparing it to an online game. If you can't separate the two realities, you really should not be playing UO. In-game activities have nothing to do with real-life activities... so don't confuse the two.

And yes, I do hunt in real life. I was raised on a small farm and we fed ourselves with whatever we hunted, fished, raised, or grew in the garden. There's a difference between a pet and food, and you don't have to be cruel to either.

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

..If you can't separate the two realities, you really should not be playing UO. In-game activities have nothing to do with real-life activities... so don't confuse the two....

As you have set the stage/tone .....

You speak that as though it is a Universal Truth and only Broken People are that way.

It is by no means a Universal Truth and by no mean are they Broken and most certainly, by no means is that an indicator that they should not be playing UO. It is clear you have no comprehension that a .... lets just say number of people act in game identically as they do out of game, if not more so.

You need to stop your denial of the fact that an increasing number of people enact their in game behavior in the ... as you call it real world.

That in fact the MMORPG's are today's Baby Sitters/Dat Care and that these entities are being tought that the way to be happy, succeed, survive is to gather in gangs and Grief, PK, Lie, Cheat, Hack use every conceivable means to beat their NON GANG member. That all anyone needs to do in the ... real world is after all just go to the local Healer and get a Rez. Learning their sense of Morals, Ethics etc. from the IN GAME BEHAVIOR. Pay attention to the news and stop sticking your head in the sand.

Let me make a Universal Truth, you attacking a poster because you feel they threaten your right to be a Hunter with Semi-Automatic weapons, using Laser Scopes against a Tied down, immobilized Squirrel that you will kill just to get a picture for your scrap book of mighty kills, indicates fare more completely that you should not be playing UO.

Let me make another Universal Truth, you obviously are an individual that thinks that ONLY HUMANS have the capacity to KNOW PAIN, KNOW FEAR, HAVE A SENSE OF SELF, A DESIRE TO LIVE. Feel free to hide your head in that sand pit, the overwhelming evidence continues to mount that YOU ARE WRONG.

Perhaps you should ask the NRA to create a UO Shard for and populate it with your easy kills.

An alternative would be to, in a diverse world/culture, to just let people have their own view points on how to be Stewards of the World.

And as a reality, enjoy your right to hunt while you can, as you and the other 8 Billion+ people are going to ensure there is nothing left to hunt but each other. Or in short, with today's population level, we are consuming the resources required to live, Water+Food at a rate that requires 2.5 Planet Earths to provide. The Humor of it is, no one ever wants to talk about it. I expect you to join everyone else in the MASSIVE DENIAL of this truth/reality by saying you do your part to make sure the water doesn't get contaminated, the food supply has adequate protection and nurseries, that the land used to grow the food is being managed so it remains fertile (lmao as the quality of the land has deteriorated 70% since the beginning of the 1900 due to chemical additives both deliberate and by leeching from irrigation sources).

 

[Scarab]

There's really no point in trying to compare real life chicken or dog fighting and comparing it to an online game. If you can't separate the two realities, you really should not be playing UO. In-game activities have nothing to do with real-life activities... so don't confuse the two.

And yes, I do hunt in real life. I was raised on a small farm and we fed ourselves with whatever we hunted, fished, raised, or grew in the garden. There's a difference between a pet and food, and you don't have to be cruel to either.

sad thing is that you seem to think I disagree with your last paragraph. I have no problem with hunting. I have no problem with farms. I have no problem with killing animals for food. I also have no problem with fantasy, which is what UO and most other videogames are supposed to be

what I have a problem with is the glorification, no matter how minute, of real-life cruelty and torture. cockfighting is cruelty and torture. just because many people are oblivious to the realities of animal "sport" fighting doesn't make it ok. there was rampant slavery in the middle ages. **** was accepted in some circles. that doesn't make it ok for **** and slavery to be placed in a game essentially set in a fantastic version of the middle ages. people would be up in arms. just because it's a game doesn't make it ok. there is nothing redeeming about cockfighting

in a game that removed dismemberment to make itself more kid friendly, I'm rather shocked that something like this has passed review

 

[The Fallout]

There's really no point in trying to compare real life chicken or dog fighting and comparing it to an online game. If you can't separate the two realities, you really should not be playing UO. In-game activities have nothing to do with real-life activities... so don't confuse the two.

And yes, I do hunt in real life. I was raised on a small farm and we fed ourselves with whatever we hunted, fished, raised, or grew in the garden. There's a difference between a pet and food, and you don't have to be cruel to either.

I agree, and it seems most people who take video game things into the real world (pretending to play grand theft auto at a New York intersection) usually already have problems in their life.

 

[Old Man of UO]

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You speak that as though it is a Universal Truth and only Broken People are that way.
...

And as a reality, enjoy your right to hunt while you can, as you and the other 8 Billion+ people are going to ensure there is nothing left to hunt but each other. Or in short, with today's population level, we are consuming the resources required to live, Water+Food at a rate that requires 2.5 Planet Earths to provide. The Humor of it is, no one ever wants to talk about it. I expect you to join everyone else in the MASSIVE DENIAL of this truth/reality by saying you do your part to make sure the water doesn't get contaminated, the food supply has adequate protection and nurseries, that the land used to grow the food is being managed so it remains fertile (lmao as the quality of the land has deteriorated 70% since the beginning of the 1900 due to chemical additives both deliberate and by leeching from irrigation sources).

You know, you really don't know what you are talking about. You like to put words in statements that I never said, nothing in my comment about "Broken People"... that is very rude sir. And your Universal Truth? Please... you don't know what you are talking about at all.

As far as this last paragraph, you are wrong line by line. First of all, you are way off on the worlds population, but that is a minor point. Secondly, at least in the United States hunters and fishermen/women pay fees have have done more in the last century to rebuild the habitat of animals than any other organization in the world. My state of Michigan has gone from a population of white tailed deer in 1900 of about 50,000 that dropped as low as 15,000 in the 1930's, and is now a healthy 4-5 million. It's not a perfect system, but it is working better than any other in the world.

Secondly, ya I do know about water and water resources... that is my current job. I work with rural communities to provide water and wastewater utilities and improvements, about $25million so far this year. Your estimate about water use is just one whacko scientists measure, not reflected in reality. We do need fresh water... about 1.5 million children die every year from contaminated drinking water. More children die from this than any other cause. Malaria is close in the total numbers of death, but providing fresh drinking water to poor nations would be the cheapest and most effective health preventative.

The quality of the land has actually improved since the 1900's. I don't know where you get your information, but it is just plain wrong. The United States provides about 1/4 of the worlds food supply and food production is growing. Land quality is improving. Now, surface water is deteriorating, but that isn't what you said. If you want to talk about water and land quality, get your facts straight.

But this conversations had nothing to do with your way off-the-mark comment. Stick to what's said.

 

[Old Man of UO]

sad thing is that you seem to think I disagree with your last paragraph. I have no problem with hunting. I have no problem with farms. I have no problem with killing animals for food. I also have no problem with fantasy, which is what UO and most other videogames are supposed to be

what I have a problem with is the glorification, no matter how minute, of real-life cruelty and torture. cockfighting is cruelty and torture. just because many people are oblivious to the realities of animal "sport" fighting doesn't make it ok. there was rampant slavery in the middle ages. **** was accepted in some circles. that doesn't make it ok for **** and slavery to be placed in a game essentially set in a fantastic version of the middle ages. people would be up in arms. just because it's a game doesn't make it ok. there is nothing redeeming about cockfighting

in a game that removed dismemberment to make itself more kid friendly, I'm rather shocked that something like this has passed review

I am sorry about the first part and the misunderstanding. But your second paragraph is WAY off with you comments about "**** and slavery." There is no comparison to what we started talking about. You are just wrong to include this, and just trying to escalate the anger with your melodrama.

And as far as cockfighting being cruel and torturous, I agree. But I don't agree that the new battle chickens in a game glorifies this, and I think this is far less worse than allowing in-game murders. And I don't think removing dismemberment created a kid friendly game with all the other violent content in UO. All online games that include any kind of PvP should be considered Mature, not kid friendly.

All that aside, you just need to remember this is a game, and not real life.

 

[mist]

Just had to add something.
All of the animals fought at Chicken Fight Club are bonded, therefore never really die.
Not quite the same as real life.

 

[Old Man of UO]

Just had to add something.
All of the animals fought at Chicken Fight Club are bonded, therefore never really die.
Not quite the same as real life.

LOL... good point!

 

[EnigmaMaitreya]

You know, you really don't know what you are talking about. You like to put words in statements that I never said, nothing in my comment about "Broken People"... that is very rude sir. And your Universal Truth? Please... you don't know what you are talking about at all.

As far as this last paragraph, you are wrong line by line. First of all, you are way off on the worlds population, but that is a minor point. Secondly, at least in the United States hunters and fishermen/women pay fees have have done more in the last century to rebuild the habitat of animals than any other organization in the world. My state of Michigan has gone from a population of white tailed deer in 1900 of about 50,000 that dropped as low as 15,000 in the 1930's, and is now a healthy 4-5 million. It's not a perfect system, but it is working better than any other in the world.

Secondly, ya I do know about water and water resources... that is my current job. I work with rural communities to provide water and wastewater utilities and improvements, about $25million so far this year. Your estimate about water use is just one whacko scientists measure, not reflected in reality. We do need fresh water... about 1.5 million children die every year from contaminated drinking water. More children die from this than any other cause. Malaria is close in the total numbers of death, but providing fresh drinking water to poor nations would be the cheapest and most effective health preventative.

The quality of the land has actually improved since the 1900's. I don't know where you get your information, but it is just plain wrong. The United States provides about 1/4 of the worlds food supply and food production is growing. Land quality is improving. Now, surface water is deteriorating, but that isn't what you said. If you want to talk about water and land quality, get your facts straight.

But this conversations had nothing to do with your way off-the-mark comment. Stick to what's said.

No Young one I was wrong about none of it.

Feel free to say I was wrong and that you know everything there is to know based on YOUR assertion that you do this and you do that.

As I said to your sock puppet in the other thread, go ahead and do your google for production information and keep your young mind empty of resource management. (yeah I know you do not have not had enough ... life experience to know the difference between them).

In the end it would have been simpler to admit you got caught throwing your childish temper tantrum and decided to change your tone At least this time you didn't throw in the Free Willy crap and because you didn't throw in Bambi vs Godzilla short, it pretty much sets your .... lets just say life experience.

Any time you want I can link you up with the GOOGLE statistics on Michigan *Rolls Eyes*.

And you keep on believing your boss of stratics saying what is and what isn't

Well as long as you want to be the pretend expert here.

What was the population of the Buffalo in the 1800's vs now?

What was the Plains states (you know your bread basket that will feed trillions of people for ever) soil composition in the late 1800's/early 1900's vs now. Oh some google words notrogen, phospahtes.

What aquifer (another google word for you) is supplying the water for the irrigation of the Plains States and what was its volume in the early 1900's vs now?

What was the population of White Tail Deer in the early 1900's vs now?

You may just be getting a clue what resource means vs productivity reports.

We can start the lakes and Oceans with whats the Whale Population of the Oceans in the Mid 1800's vs now? The Tuna, The Cod populations of the late 1800's vs now, and yes the population estimates are available to you for a google search.

Why not you are after all the pretend expert ... What is the root structure of prairie grass and compare it in a closed system to the root structure of Corn or Wheat or Barly. Dare I even mention Micro-fauna and Micro-flora. Let alone the Debit and Credits of Agriculture, seeing as to how your this self proclaimed farmer. What does the majority of energy go towards producing? Yes it can be googled so the follow up and what happens when it is not returned, were does the offsetting debit need to come from.

 

[Wenchkin]

Let's get this thread back on topic and productive.

EA are not a substitute for the appropriate education and supervision of young or vulnerable people in this world. If someone is vulnerable enough to take UO values into RL then they're not safe unsupervised on the internet itself, nevermind in a computer game.

Wenchy

 

[Pfloyd]

Let's get this thread back on topic and productive.

EA are not a substitute for the appropriate education and supervision of young or vulnerable people in this world. If someone is vulnerable enough to take UO values into RL then they're not safe unsupervised on the internet itself, nevermind in a computer game.

Wenchy

This is what i got today...seems like a cu color not a hiryu color that we thought were the only ones we could get...

 

[Xenobia]

That's a fairly naïve statement. It's not the killing that is the issue, but the manner of the killing. If you'd ever seen the razor blade "talons" that get strapped to roosters' feet for real cock fights, you might understand

The problem with that statement IS...These ARE NOT real cock fights lol This is a game for Pete's sake people. Get over it and go play something else or save a whale or something. Don't gripe and whine about pixelated chickens. This has to be the most ridiculous thread I have seen in stratics history and that is saying alot!

Scarab, maybe you should really re-think the whole playing of fantasy games thing because you certainly seem to be unable to seperate that from real life. Make sure you don't go to Fel and get killed! I wouldn't want you to start screaming that EA is condoning murder. And be sure to stay away from any hunts so that you or your pets don't get killed. Wouldn't want you to think EA is condoning man slaughter! *rolls eyes*

 

[Xenobia]

Oh and ...cool chicken pfloyd! I hope I get a pink one but I like yours as well

 

[Old Man of UO]

...
EA are not a substitute for the appropriate education and supervision of young or vulnerable people in this world. If someone is vulnerable enough to take UO values into RL then they're not safe unsupervised on the internet itself, nevermind in a computer game.

Wenchy

Very well said, Wenchy.

 

[Old Man of UO]

Wenchkin, this is just pathetic and sad that EM insists on continuing this nonsense. Can you please delete my posts and his so we can get back on topic.

 

[Wenchkin]

Don't worry, a cleanup was going to happen whether you asked for it or not Old Man

In future folks, if you see any "baiting" posts or attacks it's best to just ignore them, perhaps even ignore the poster if they bug you enough. Just don't annouce "I'm blocking you" because that's like painting "you beat me" on your forehead Always makes me cringe when I see someone post that.

If a poster doesn't get the response they want from you, they'll hopefully learn they're wasting time on you and move on to someone or something else. Or just stop baiting and trolling entirely. Well, I live in hope of that one

Wenchy

 

[Scarab]

Scarab, maybe you should really re-think the whole playing of fantasy games thing because you certainly seem to be unable to seperate that from real life. Make sure you don't go to Fel and get killed! I wouldn't want you to start screaming that EA is condoning murder. And be sure to stay away from any hunts so that you or your pets don't get killed. Wouldn't want you to think EA is condoning man slaughter! *rolls eyes*

maybe you should re-think whatever passes for your education. did you read my posts? I ask because you clearly have no idea what I was talking about. further, do not confuse me and my opinions with those of others in this thread. believe me, I am very firmly rooted in reality. I also happen to work in a prosecutor's office in a region with some rural areas, so I have prosecuted animal cruelty cases first hand. I'm starting to think that I'm the only person in this thread who has seen what happens in real cockfights. yes, UO is a game. yes, these are not real cockfights. but just like I wrote above, any minute (definition: really small) glorification of animal cruelty is offensive in my eyes. if you're not offended, good for you. my ultimate point, which everyone appears to have missed, is that I am surprised that something that could be perceived as offensive to a portion of rational society made it into this game, when other less offensive things have been removed

and I'm done with this thread. Wenchy: feel free to delete my posts too if they're in any way over the line

 

[TimberWolf]

I just want to know if we can get them extra crispy or just original recipe?

 

[CFC Rachel]

I don’t think they , the powers that be, ever though that by adding battle chickens they would be encouraging, promoting or glorifying cock fights. It doesn’t have anything to do with cock fights. It could have been any critter. The creators of CFC chose to use chickens in our event. Why the use of chickens in these fight? It’s because everyone can tame, train and come to participate in a weekly event, not just the maxed out tamer type…it’s for everyone!! These are, unlike real life animals, bonded pets trained inside a game to fight. This argument could be said about any aspect of the game such as PVP and PVM even the trade skills.

 

[Xenobia]

maybe you should re-think whatever passes for your education. did you read my posts? I ask because you clearly have no idea what I was talking about. further, do not confuse me and my opinions with those of others in this thread. believe me, I am very firmly rooted in reality. I also happen to work in a prosecutor's office in a region with some rural areas, so I have prosecuted animal cruelty cases first hand. I'm starting to think that I'm the only person in this thread who has seen what happens in real cockfights. yes, UO is a game. yes, these are not real cockfights. but just like I wrote above, any minute (definition: really small) glorification of animal cruelty is offensive in my eyes. if you're not offended, good for you. my ultimate point, which everyone appears to have missed, is that I am surprised that something that could be perceived as offensive to a portion of rational society made it into this game, when other less offensive things have been removed

and I'm done with this thread. Wenchy: feel free to delete my posts too if they're in any way over the line

LoL Rational society sees this as a GAME! A game with little pixels of little things that, by the way, don't even look like real chickens! I am very much educated as I happen to be an IT Specialist and can associate fantasy with fantasy and reality with reality. I was also raised in the country and we killed chickens for dinner. So pull your socks up over your sandals and go prosecute REAL cases...not pixilated ones. These are not real cockfights. And think before you say someone is uneducated as it makes you look like a spoiled child. You know nothing about me and I just responded to your idiotic remarks. I would also like to know how in all hell **** and slavery got into this conversation? How dare ANYONE associate that with chickens fighting! It's pathetic.