Cu Sidhe - keep or release?

[Traleah]

I need help determining which Cu Sidhes to release. I made a spreadsheet of my current pets to compare all of their stats, then focused on their attributes and resistances. I totaled the hits+strength and then the five resistances. (I selected these items based on the cost to raise levels). Then, I looked at which pets had the highest totals. Looking at hits+strength was simple but the resistances have not been as easy for me.

Pet intensity calculator aside, how do you decide which Cu Sidhes to keep and which to release? How do you weigh the stats?

Take this one Cu for instance: Hits+Strength=1206, placing 5th place among my current pets. The resistances for this Cu totaled 314 - 1st place by total. But, the resists were over 80 in both cold (83) and energy (84). Another Cu with 306 points for resistances had one at 80 and the rest lower, so points could be spread around more evenly.

Would the Cu over 80 in Cold and Energy be pretty limited to specific use?

Is there a "break even" point of hits, strength, and resistances where you will have enough training points to max everything you want (if looking at just the AI/Chiv type build)?

Originally, my plan was to release a stabled Cu Sidhe each time I tamed one that was "better." I'm just not sure what "better" is now. I find myself looking more for higher hits+strength and resists no higher than 80 for versatility. But this may not be the way... I'm reluctant to release any pets without some more knowledgeable feedback.

I did read posts that touched on this topic in various threads, but felt they did not specifically address my questions. I've also read so much information that a lot of it is a jumbled mess in my brain (one reason for the spreadsheet). I apologize if these questions have been answered in another thread over the last couple of years.

Thank you.

 

[gwen]

First you need to check what do you plan to do with that pet, what to fight, how many scrolls plan to put on it.
Will your Cute need cold and energy resistance or not, or you need room for fire and poison ones.
Then you will see what is important for this build. Chasing 10more HP or lower stomach/highest resist, or just get nice color.

 

[Pawain]

It depends on what you like for resistance. So that is number one.

All my Cus end up with nothing added in Cold resist.


My perfect Cu would have 85 Energy resist and 70 cold.

I try not to keep the ones that do not allow 80 in Physical and Fire resist.

Cu Sidhes have a very small range for Strength. Most of them have 611 Strength. So I do not use Str as a Determining factor.

Hit Points is more of a determining factor after resists.

You can turn any Cu into an AI/Chiv pet. But you should cull them because you can.

I quickly get rid of any below 550 HP. If you have the color you want and it is 570 plus HP then it will make a killer.

You will be pleased to have the color you want that is able to make the resists you want and starts with 600HP.

You can build any Cu you want with a Guide:

Choosing points for a Cu slot 3 to 4. 1st and second points allocation

Starting with a very nice stat fresh Cu. (you can get Stamina and Dex to 125 before starting taming to save a few points) I did not. 1. Set dex to MAXIMUM 2. Set Stamina to MAXIMUM 3. Set the resists to the values you want. 4. Set Mana Regeneration to MAXIMUM 5. Set Hit point Regeneration...

community.stratics.com

But if you can cull, you can make yours a Beast!

 

[Pawain]

The pet intensity calculator does not directly give you a good % on pets with over normal values.

Like a Cu or Triton.

85 cold resist will show higher intensity, but is that what you want.

You can set the resist thresholds on the calculator to calculate a pet based on the resists that you want. Then you can compare %.

 

[Traleah]

Thank you gwen and Pawain.

I haven't determined exactly what I will do with my pets, yet. At this point, I just wanted to keep the best ones and do their basic training. I guess I can say that doing a better job of surviving in Bedlam is one of my goals, but that's a goal I have for most dungeon type areas!

So far, I have followed Pawain's guides for Cu Sidhe and Giant/Fire beetle leveling. I then followed the same principles for leveling some of my other pets. I have one Chiv/AI Cu with no scrolls thus far. I did also take both of my beetles to level 5 and added their specials, but most pets I leveled are at the point of selecting specials and none have scrolls.

I did try using the intensity calculator with the resists set, but I put them all at 80, thinking it was meant to set a maximum for each area. Reading how the hits, strengths and resists factor in together when deciding whether or not to keep a Cu Sidhe is very helpful for me. Thank you!

 

[Pawain]

I did try using the intensity calculator with the resists set, but I put them all at 80, thinking it was meant to set a maximum for each area. Reading how the hits, strengths and resists factor in together when deciding whether or not to keep a Cu Sidhe is very helpful for me. Thank you!

You would only use that on resists that go above 80. You set them to the max value that you would like them to be.

Making them all 80 will just make all pets have a low intensity that does not consider natural max limits.

Basically there is no reason to put a Cu in the calculator. You just have to glance at the cold resist and HP to judge whether it is a keeper.

Some pet types that are not as easy to build need the calculator when culling. All Drakes, All Equines, for example.

 

[Ascalon]

If you have a Cu with 70 cold and 85 energy resist, that's the "best", in my view. It maximizes the strength of the Cu's overcap in energy while minimizing the wasted points of cold resist. I would sort based on that also. A 85 cold would be one I would trade, give away, or vendor off.

Most Cu's can be good PvM hunters with 110 level scrolls. If you want to try out templates, use a few of your marginal ones to test builds with 110 scrolls. For me, this helped me find a few templates I enjoy the most (Discord/AI and Mystic/AI/Goo) that I wouldn't have built based on the "on paper" build of Chiv/Ai. For Discord the 120 is a plentiful scroll. I use the Mystic/AI/Goo one for treasure map clean up. Helpful for the "flyers" like balron and ancient wyrm. Also helpful for the area damage spawn like the cold dragon, since it has 2 ways of healing. FWW is another underused but nice special I would recommend trying out in game.

 

[Traleah]

Thank you - I hope to try some of those out at some point. I did keep a few high cold resist cu sidhes, including the one with high cold and energy. I figure I can always release them if they don’t work out before adding scrolls - or I can put those points in other stats. I’ve got a couple of chivalry/armor ignore cu sidhes without scrolls already, so do plan to try something else.