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Connection problem with Origin Servers

Riner

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Perhaps someone here knows the answer to this. My internet provider recently installed fiber cables and when they first did the hook up everything worked fine. After a couple of weeks, they got knocked out due to a storm and lost all of their antennas. They reset everything up and the normal internet works fine, however, I can not log into Ultima Online using their service. I can log on with a hotspot over my phone, but I want to be able to, not switch networks to play the game. Since I can get to UO.com through their connection I suspect that it is a question of having the right ports open on their server. They had me try forwarding 2593 to my computer believing it was the correct one but that did not work. I did find one listing of ports on a web site: TCP: 5001-5010, 7775-7777, 7875, 8800-8900, 9999. I am not sure if this is correct or not. I am hoping someone can tell me what ports Ultima Online actually needs to have open to work? Or is there something else they can check on the network that might be blocking my connection to the log in server?
 

Lord Gandalf

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the ports are 7775 and 7777

open cmd

type: tracert 54.241.143.221

print screen this if you gave any issues (packet loss, or no destination) and sent it to you ISP (internet service provider)

if it doesnt work, send a message to mesanna explaining your issue providing your ip address.

also try to go to cmd again, and ping atlantic.owo.com if your reaching that one it shouldnt be a port problem.

good luck
 

Riner

Journeyman
Governor
Thanks, the ping on Atlantic comes back fine, however the trace route shows:

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I did forward this to Mesanna and will give the information to my isp when it opens hopefully, they can figure it out from there. Thank you again for your assistance.
 

PlayerSkillFTW

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Are you getting this message when trying to login?
Synchronization Error.PNG

If so, use a VPN when connecting to UO. That fixed the problem for me.
 

petemage

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Thanks, the ping on Atlantic comes back fine, however the trace route shows:

View attachment 124837


I did forward this to Mesanna and will give the information to my isp when it opens hopefully, they can figure it out from there. Thank you again for your assistance.
This looks perfectly fine. Three pings to atlantic 162 - 180ms. Nothing to see here. The "*" lines are just hops purposely not reporting back. A common practice these days.

If it's a port(-forwarding) problem with you or your ISP, I can only second using a VPN until you figure it out.
 

petemage

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My internet provider recently installed fiber cables
Oh there you go. Something in the traceroute got me curious. I ended coming up with a question someone else had 7 years ago as well (for those interested in the rabbit hole): Why is tracert showing a private IP address right after my router, even though it has a public IP?

Someone in the answers explains how cable providers add a whole extra layer of complexity. I guess your "UPnP" with your router just doesn't work for some ISP related reason.

That aside: Modern routers do automatic port forwarding (via UPnP) and usually don't require manual port forwarding anymore. This listing you found is probably over a decade old :D But did you actually try manually forwarding the mentioned ports?
 

Stinky Pete

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A lot of times ISPs will install a router/modem instead of just a modem. They do this as a convenience so customers don't have to have their own router. The 10.100.200.1 address I'm seeing on the tracert indicates that this is what is happening here. That router is probably doing NAT for you. My advice would be to disable NAT on your router and see if that helps.

 

petemage

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A lot of times ISPs will install a router/modem instead of just a modem. They do this as a convenience so customers don't have to have their own router. The 10.100.200.1 address I'm seeing on the tracert indicates that this is what is happening here. That router is probably doing NAT for you. My advice would be to disable NAT on your router and see if that helps.

192.168.1.1 is his router doing the "his network" to cable thing. 10.100.200.1 is with the isp doing the cable to internet thing.

Non-cable ISPs let you go directly from "your network" to internet from what I know. That's the oddity with cable networks and suppossedly also what has change in the OPs setup. Like NAT behind another NAT.
 
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Stinky Pete

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192.168.1.1 is his router doing the "his network" to cable thing. 10.100.200.1 is with the isp doing the cable to internet thing.

Non-cable ISPs let you go directly from "your network" to internet from what I know. That's the oddity with cable networks and suppossedly also what has change in the OPs setup. Like NAT behind another NAT.
10.100.200.1 looks like a class A local address to me which, when positioned there, indicates that the NAT could very well be behind another NAT. It's very possible that I'm wrong, but disabling the NAT on his router is a safe and simple step to try.

Forwarding ports on the firewall could cause security issues and allow unsolicited traffic from the net through the firewall. Either way, whether I'm right or wrong, anyone who forwards any ports should understand the implications of that and if it doesn't fix the issue, make sure you set it back the way it was.

Even if I'm right, I gotta say thanks to @petemage for his post because I wouldn't have thought about that had he not made his post in the first place. He's probably more versed in this than I am.
 

petemage

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10.100.200.1 looks like a class A local address to me which, when positioned there, indicates that the NAT could very well be behind another NAT. It's very possible that I'm wrong, but disabling the NAT on his router is a safe and simple step to try.

Forwarding ports on the firewall could cause security issues and allow unsolicited traffic from the net through the firewall. Either way, whether I'm right or wrong, anyone who forwards any ports should understand the implications of that and if it doesn't fix the issue, make sure you set it back the way it was.

Even if I'm right, I gotta say thanks to @petemage for his post because I wouldn't have thought about that had he not made his post in the first place. He's probably more versed in this than I am.
I didn't come up with this myself and didn't know this either. There is this superuser.com link in my answer above where someone explains it better than I ever could.
 

Riner

Journeyman
Governor
I want to thank everyone for their input. It seems that the problem was solved by routing though a VPN. I won't even pretend to understand the reasoning but I do now have a solution. Thank you!
 
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