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[Fishing] Colored sunken treasure chest?

sos440

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Today I pulled up a barnacle-encrusted chest that is hued.

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Note that ordinary barnacle-encrusted chests have hue 0.

Since I haven't heard of such one in the publish note, I wonder if other people have similar experiences.
 

Sinder Shayde

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Today I pulled up a barnacle-encrusted chest that is hued.

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Note that ordinary barnacle-encrusted chests have hue 0.

Since I haven't heard of such one in the publish note, I wonder if other people have similar experiences.


SOS Chest Updates
  • Ancient SoS Chests can now contain Ancient Aquarium Fishing Nets & Live Rock
  • SoS Chests will now be created based on the “level” of the SoS where,
    • 1 – Rusty Chest
    • 2 – Legacy Wood/Metal Chest
    • 3 – Gold Chest
    • Ancient – Chance of either legacy white wood/metal chest OR barnacle encrusted chest
  • Ancient SoS Chests will take on the name of the shipwreck as do other salvage items
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sos440

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SOS Chest Updates
  • Ancient SoS Chests can now contain Ancient Aquarium Fishing Nets & Live Rock
  • SoS Chests will now be created based on the “level” of the SoS where,
    • 1 – Rusty Chest
    • 2 – Legacy Wood/Metal Chest
    • 3 – Gold Chest
    • Ancient – Chance of either legacy white wood/metal chest OR barnacle encrusted chest
  • Ancient SoS Chests will take on the name of the shipwreck as do other salvage items
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Thank you, but I am well-aware of the update.

What I am pointing out is that this is the only colored barnacle chest out of around 40 ancient SOS. (Note: Most barnacle chests are greenish as in your image, and its hue code is actually 0.) Here is a comparison between ordinary and colored chests:

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Maximus Neximus

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Thank you, but I am well-aware of the update.

What I am pointing out is that this is the only colored barnacle chest out of around 40 ancient SOS. (Note: Most barnacle chests are greenish as in your image, and its hue code is actually 0.) Here is a comparison between ordinary and colored chests:

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Interesting. I've fished up 10 or so new chests and have yet to see one like that!
 

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What I am pointing out is that this is the only colored barnacle chest out of around 40 ancient SOS. (Note: Most barnacle chests are greenish as in your image, and its hue code is actually 0.) Here is a comparison between ordinary and colored chests:

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There is another one of those for the regular sos gold colored ones.

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We've done hundreds ancient sos since patch and none have turned up like your silver barnacle covered, nor have we gotten another of the new silver ones either. They have to be pretty uncommon/rare.
 

Maximus Neximus

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There is another one of those for the regular sos gold colored ones.

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We've done hundreds ancient sos since patch and none have turned up like your silver barnacle covered, nor have we gotten another of the new silver ones either. They have to be pretty uncommon/rare.
I've only gotten white metal/wooden chests and the hue 0 barnacle. Is getting gold luck based like in treasure hunting?
 

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What's the Salted Serpent Steak for? I got one in an ASOS tonight?

Ans, so far, just white chests for me as well.
 

marcbobb72

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I've gotten the barnacle covered chest on the Anicent SOS's, a few white wood and metal and a mix match of the rusted and gold or copper looking chest on the mib's.
 

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I have one of the chests with Hue 2102 as well took a lot of ancients to get it you are the first I have heard of one so I think its a rare one
 

sos440

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There is another one of those for the regular sos gold colored ones.

View attachment 102569

We've done hundreds ancient sos since patch and none have turned up like your silver barnacle covered, nor have we gotten another of the new silver ones either. They have to be pretty uncommon/rare.
Awesome! I also got another colored chest, a gold one with color 2102, only after hundreds of sos. I agree they must be pretty uncommon.
 

WiggyJiggyJed

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So, I have managed to get one each of the 2012-hued barnacle-crusted and golden treasure chests.

It is hard to make a definitive determination from just one, but I noticed in each case, the loot was notably lower grade.

In the 2102-hued barnacle crusted chest, the loot was mostly Greater and Major Magic items, whereas the 0-hued ones seem to be primarily Artifact-grade items (mostly Lesser & Greater), with some Major and Greater Magic.

In the case of the 2102-hued golden chest, it was mostly Lesser and Greater Magic items, whereas the 0-hued ones seem to be mostly Greater and Major items, with the occasional Lesser Artifact. And the 2012-hued chest had no refinements (i.e. polish, gloss, varnish, etc.). I don't remember not having refinements in a 0-hued golden chest, though I couldn't say that with 100% certainty.

So it would seem that, though much rarer, the 2012-hued chest are almost like a "rusty" version of the chest.

Has anyone else noticed the loot quality being notably lower in the 2102-hued chests? Or have I just experienced a unlucky RNG roll in each case?
 

Keven2002

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Sorry if this is a little bit of a derail on the original topic but just curious where everyone is finding their ancient SOS. I've pulled up hundreds of salvage hooks (pulling up Krakens) to get messages in bottles and of the 100+ messages NONE have been ancient. I've only pulled up a couple krakens with nets (as I don't get them very often) and no luck there either. I think I remember seeing that Ancient SOS were 1 in 25 so just wondering if I'm just super unlucky (haven't even had 1 in 100+) or if I'm doing something wrong but when I'm reading some people here have done 100s of ancient SOS I feel like I'm missing something.

Thanks!
 

Basara

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The issue is that the UO Random Number Generator is VERY prone to streaks of similar numbers in the short term - at ANY point in the curve. Draconi figured it out after we finally explained it to him with observational data that allowed him to actually test for it. Before then, they just ran tests of 100k-10 million samples, and looked at the total results, not local tendencies within the sample. And, with the streaking potentially happening at all points, that meant that a sample of 100k or more "pulls" was going to have streaks at all levels, making the streaks disappear into the mean (as every result streaked at some point).

Draconi was working on a fix on his own time when he was laid off in 2009, and we've not been able to convince the Devs after him that the problem exists, as they just run the big tests and not look at smaller subsets within it.

However, one of the ways fishermen have learned to "game" the broken system is to get a bunch of MIBs (about 50, in a pouch or crate in your pack) ,then open about 10-20. If you don't get an Ancient, stop there. If you get an Ancient, or add 5 more MIB to open each time you get an ancient until you go 10 without one, then stop). Most times, when I've done this, I'll get an ASOS, then there's about a 50/50 chance of either no AOS in the next 10, or 2-4 more in the next 20-25. (the latter which should be extremely rare if there wasn't streaking going on).
 

Keven2002

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The issue is that the UO Random Number Generator is VERY prone to streaks of similar numbers in the short term - at ANY point in the curve. Draconi figured it out after we finally explained it to him with observational data that allowed him to actually test for it. Before then, they just ran tests of 100k-10 million samples, and looked at the total results, not local tendencies within the sample. And, with the streaking potentially happening at all points, that meant that a sample of 100k or more "pulls" was going to have streaks at all levels, making the streaks disappear into the mean (as every result streaked at some point).

Draconi was working on a fix on his own time when he was laid off in 2009, and we've not been able to convince the Devs after him that the problem exists, as they just run the big tests and not look at smaller subsets within it.

However, one of the ways fishermen have learned to "game" the broken system is to get a bunch of MIBs (about 50, in a pouch or crate in your pack) ,then open about 10-20. If you don't get an Ancient, stop there. If you get an Ancient, or add 5 more MIB to open each time you get an ancient until you go 10 without one, then stop). Most times, when I've done this, I'll get an ASOS, then there's about a 50/50 chance of either no AOS in the next 10, or 2-4 more in the next 20-25. (the latter which should be extremely rare if there wasn't streaking going on).
Very helpful; thank you for the advice! I will definitely try this.
 

Keven2002

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Just wanted to report back that I tried what you said @Basara. I gathered 30 MiBs total and started opening. On my 14th MiB I got my first ASOS. I kept opening and 10 MiBs later I got another one (24th total). Looks like you were right that the key is to stock up a bunch of MiBs and open them in bulk rather than 3-5 at a time like I was doing before. I literally doubled the amount of ASOS I've gotten in the past several years by doing this. I had no idea opening a handful at a time was really hurting my chances at getting an ASOS.

Thanks again!
 

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I just got 1 of each of those “rare” chests the hoed 2102 which is the same hue as the ships strongbox
I think it’s a glitch those are possible supposed to be strong boxes
I got them after around 500 to 600 sos
 

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i got one of those 2012 hues today had around 70 sos i decided to start going thro them and made it thro about 16 and got it. im doing normal sos tho so its the non barnacle version
 

MaryForUo

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so the chance to get a 2102 chest is lowwwwww :(
you get only from ancient sos??
 
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