Change in justice virtue? *confused*

[Gellor]

I was going to take my protector and see about gaining some Sots in Tokuno. But for some reason, I can not activate the virtue.

My guy is definitely knight of justice.

I double click the virtue and I get "You cannot use this ability here".

I tried at the moon gate of Tokuno for the champ spawn.

I tried half way to the champ spawn.

I tried in the champ spawn.

My character was hidden each attempt.

*confused* Anyone?

 

[Gellor]

I JUST tried it on top of the altar.

Is Justice a Fel only virtue now?

 

[wanderer1origin]

isnt justice for getting scrolls from protecting spawns from reds!!!!

I JUST tried it on top of the altar.

Is Justice a Fel only virtue now?

 

[Experimental]

isnt justice for getting scrolls from protecting spawns from reds!!!!

Justice is gained by killing reds, but is used to protect blues at a spawn. The one protecting the blues gets either a percentage or an equal number of scrolls (depending of their justice) but should never hit the champ.

 

[Gellor]

You gain justice from killing reds.

My understanding is you get "protection" scrolls from champ spawns.

It appears that justice virtue itself works while my char is in fel.

So does this mean justice virtue is only valid in Fel? If so, when did that change because I recall being able to be protected for Ilsh/Tok spawns a while back.

 

[Flutter]

Like they said Justice isn't for popping spawns its for getting extra scrolls.
Valor is for popping spawns, and you can only pop the ones in Fel. The tram ones pop themselves every couple of minutes.

 

[Alezi]

Maybe you should try to build enough courage so you could pop into Fel, test justice and then pop back into Trammel? Might as well do SoT farming in Felucca: lets face it - dying in UO doesn't have the most serious consequences..

EDIT: And yes, Justice is a Fel only virtue.

 

[Gellor]

I have no issues with Fel. That is where I normally play but I figure if I'm going to "waste" time trying for ToTs, I might as well get a little bonus while screwing around in Tram.

As mentioned, the virtue "worked" in Fel... at least as far as being able to protect another char. However, as I mentioned, I recall being able to protect people while in Tram

So that still begs the question, if I have a char protected and both protector and protected are on the same tram spawn server, does Justice still work?

 

[~Antzy~Pantz~]

Like they said Justice isn't for popping spawns its for getting extra scrolls.
Valor is for popping spawns, and you can only pop the ones in Fel. The tram ones pop themselves every couple of minutes.

I don't think I read anything about him being unable to "pop" the spawn... was about him not being able to protect...

 

[Flutter]

What reds are you protecting the characters from in Trammel?

 

[Flutter]

Like they said Justice isn't for popping spawns its for getting extra scrolls.
Valor is for popping spawns, and you can only pop the ones in Fel. The tram ones pop themselves every couple of minutes.

I don't think I read anything about him being unable to "pop" the spawn... was about him not being able to protect...

Yeah, I misread. Wanting to protect in trammel is even more confusing though.

 

[Diomedes Artega]

It's a Felucca only virtue. What on earth are you protecting anyone from while in Trammel? Exactly...nothing. Therefore virtue is not going to work in Trammel.

 

[Basara]

Given the times I have run into (and run from) Ronin and Elite Ninja (both red NPCs) at the spawn, I WISH Justice worked in Tokuno......

 

[Omnius]

You're not protecting people from anything silly.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

While I am pretty sure the virtue does not do anything in tram, I also thought you could activate it in tram, not sure why i was under this impression...since tram spawns don't allow for the justice gaining of scrolls, but meh Still thought you could activate it in tram, like maybe before you start your champ hunt you protect everyone and you are leaving from tram? (I don't know I always do this in fel so...not sure why I thought this way heh)

 

[CatLord]

You could always activate it in Felluca... then move to the tram Spawn...

* goes back to reading his old book *

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

You could always activate it in Felluca... then move to the tram Spawn...

* goes back to reading his old book *

Of course would be pretty useless since the virtue does not actually work in fel *shrugs*

 

[kantoska]

Of course it only works in Fel. You use it to get more scrolls from a champ. No scrolls drop from champs in Tram. Therefore, it has no use in Tram. End of thread.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Of course it only works in Fel. You use it to get more scrolls from a champ. No scrolls drop from champs in Tram. Therefore, it has no use in Tram. End of thread.

Except you are wrong? You get scrolls in tram, and it works on those scroll (when in fel) so while you are correct it does not work, your logic is sort of wacky.

 

[CatLord]

* looks up from his book... smiles at the chaos and ignorance and keeps reading *

 

[Tinsil]

How did all the stupidity make it into this one thread?

Oh wait, it's not just this thread.

Correct answer has already been stated. Although it's a mystery where! Muahaha.

 

[kantoska]

Except you are wrong? You get scrolls in tram, and it works on those scroll (when in fel) so while you are correct it does not work, your logic is sort of wacky.

Really? You get Power Scrolls in Tram? Please show me where.

 

[Tinsil]

Really? You get Power Scrolls in Tram? Please show me where.

I think he meant Ilsh and I think the tokuno spawn gives scrolls too, but no 120s.

 

[Alezi]

You get Scrolls of Transcendence in Trammel which give you 0.1-0.5 skillpoints in a skill. In Fel they give 0.6-1.0%.

 

[CatLord]

The SOTs were improved to 1.0 on Ilshenar and Tokuno...

* goes back to his reading ... *

 

[Alezi]

The SOTs were improved to 1.0 on Ilshenar and Tokuno...

* goes back to his reading ... *

Uh, when? Kinda goes against the risk vs. reward idea as usual..

 

[Jhym]

In Trammel wouldn't they be pinks?

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Yep that would be correct, Justice works on SoT scrolls and you get those in Tram ALSO thus I proved you effectively wrong and your response to it was useless as you tried to limit justice to only powerscrolls, and since it does not work on them alone you are wrong. And I have yet to hear of anyone getting 1.0 SoTs in tram, and wouldn't they tell us about this change if it were true? Never the less I would not know, don't do the champs in tram often enough to get those scrolls *shrugs*

 

[Maximus Neximus]

The SOTs were improved to 1.0 on Ilshenar and Tokuno...

* goes back to his reading ... *

Wrong sir... Only 0.1-0.5.... It would be kinda nice to get double SoT scrolls in Tram via Justice. But since Justice can only be gained in Fel may as well keep it there.

I think he meant Ilsh and I think the tokuno spawn gives scrolls too, but no 120s.

The ONLY place to get power scrolls is Felucca. In Ilsh/Tokuno you have the chance of getting a Scroll of Transcendence 0.1-0.5 plus the possible champ replica drop. That's it, no mas John.

 

[CatLord]

I suggest you go do a tokuno spawn after getting protected in felluca... and keeping your protector under 90 tiles of your spawn killer... then let me know what you discover...

* turns the page and checks the mechanics of dragon flight *