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Cavern of the Discarded OUT OF ORDER

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kaldera4

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since this morning 8 hours no. there is no ratman spawn. on our shard. we think some idiots must have lured away the 3 rat-bosses.:mad: we searched nearly the whole abyss. but cant find them. is that hapening ohn your shard to? and were did they lure them? so we could bring them back
 
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guum

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I've seen this happen on Chesapeake too. It's really annoying.

Can the rats, scorpions, and dogs be made to drop the imbuing ingredients too please? Level 1 spawn in all the other mini-champs drops the ingredients. Why not here? Then at least if it gets stuck, we can still get stuff there that's actually useful.
 

Tina Small

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Well, before my pet on Origin mysteriously disappeared for the SECOND TIME in the Abyss, I had a chance to do a slight bit of testing in the Cavern of the Discarded, first area. It had plague rats and supplicants. First supplicant dropped a seed of renewal, and I got maybe two of the green essence (Balance?) before the pet poofed. The darn plague rats were only dropping gold and the occasional minor item, e.g., a musical instrument. If I have time to test further tonight, I'll try to go back and see if anything else about the area seems to be different. Someone was parked on the other side of the rock wall there, so I don't know if he was working in concert with someone else to keep the rats focused on him or not. Didn't see anyone else in the plague rat area and didn't get to go any further.
 
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kaldera4

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Well, before my pet on Origin mysteriously disappeared for the SECOND TIME in the Abyss, I had a chance to do a slight bit of testing in the Cavern of the Discarded, first area. It had plague rats and supplicants. First supplicant dropped a seed of renewal, and I got maybe two of the green essence (Balance?) before the pet poofed. The darn plague rats were only dropping gold and the occasional minor item, e.g., a musical instrument. If I have time to test further tonight, I'll try to go back and see if anything else about the area seems to be different. Someone was parked on the other side of the rock wall there, so I don't know if he was working in concert with someone else to keep the rats focused on him or not. Didn't see anyone else in the plague rat area and didn't get to go any further.
but any idea where a good hidden spot is where they could have lured them, without crossing a line like a champ spawn cafe or something like that? we really searched all over the abyss
 
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BartofCats

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All that has to be done to completely fix this problem is adjust the loot for the HPs of the ratmen boss. then it would be worth the while to kill it for more than just a regular ratman loot. Otherwise theres no point to killing something with 10000+HPs for mongbat loot.
 

Tina Small

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but any idea where a good hidden spot is where they could have lured them, without crossing a line like a champ spawn cafe or something like that? we really searched all over the abyss
I've been asking myself the same question and all I can come up with is the tunnel in the Abyssal Lair mini-champ spawn area over to the NE that leads to the Abyssal Inferno champ spawn. Not sure why anyone would drag something that far. I guess they could also stick them up by the Slasher of Veils. Not too many people would hang around up there trying to find one and maybe it is aggressive towards them.
 

Viquire

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If they recalled out while under aggro there is absolutely no telling.
 

Gheed

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Part of me thinks the issue might be a bug as well. I have done all three, killed bosses and all. One spawn would kick off just as I finished the one I was on. I'd round robin through them. Then the wolf spawn just stopped. I spent the rest of the night doing the other two. But the wolves never kicked off again. Not another player there the entire evening.
 

bioras

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I hope the devs will look into this issue soon. It's getting old running all over the abyss looking for bosses, then spending a half hour killing spawn, hoping the level will change.
It's an important area in SA, I would hate to see it ruined by a bug or a few griefers.
 

Dermott of LS

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...

It's not just the boss, lower level ratmen will prevent the spawn from cycling as well, so be on the lookout for stragglers of all types.
 

It Lives

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Part of me thinks the issue might be a bug as well. I have done all three, killed bosses and all. One spawn would kick off just as I finished the one I was on. I'd round robin through them. Then the wolf spawn just stopped. I spent the rest of the night doing the other two. But the wolves never kicked off again. Not another player there the entire evening.
Well not saying your wrong but... I have a tracker/fisher/stealther working that area. At any given time I find at least 3 other peeps stealthing around.

You know what I mean, those cretins that love to loot your kills when you get overwhelmed or killed or lure off mobs to ruin others play.
 

Gheed

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That place is a hotbed of thieves now. The artifacts are in high demand. And there are two pretty valuable artifacts that spawn there. A thief could have easily got aggro and lured a rat spawn off. I have done this w/my thief on accident. I wasn't intending to screw up the spawn for everyone else. In fact it didn't even hit me that I could be messing it up for everyone else until I read Dermott's post. So you could be right about that.

And I'll try to be more aware of the spawn when I check for arties on my thief. I usually do not stealth at that location. Faster to buzz by on my ethy spaming ctrl+shift looking for the tag. Then stealth in if I see an artifact.
 

bioras

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Well not saying your wrong but... I have a tracker/fisher/stealther working that area. At any given time I find at least 3 other peeps stealthing around.

You know what I mean, those cretins that love to loot your kills when you get overwhelmed or killed or lure off mobs to ruin others play.
I think you're right. The 2 easier spawns don't seem to be working right. So I had to go to the tinker one to hunt for a couple things I need. It's much more difficult for me to handle 5 or 6 rats shooting at me than the other 2. I died twice. Both times I came back to find items on the ground that were not there before.
It's a great set up for the worst in UO.
 

ACB1961

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since this morning 8 hours no. there is no ratman spawn. on our shard. we think some idiots must have lured away the 3 rat-bosses.:mad: we searched nearly the whole abyss. but cant find them. is that hapening ohn your shard to? and were did they lure them? so we could bring them back
Here's the real problem. In UO if you make it where one player can grief several other players with impunity then someone will, over and over. It has always been this way. The only way to fix this problem is the take that ability from people.

On Atlantic I find the ratmen bosses and kill them. I don't personally care if they are standing under the Slashers foot. When I'm filling an order, I fill the order.
 
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Abyss

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Happens on ATL bout every day. I wish they would implement the champ spawn roam on these guys where they can't get too far from their spawn point before the poof back.
 

Jirel of Joiry

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amen!

Some a**hat lured off the ribbon clan Renowned Ratman while sis and I were working it!!! We look everywhere and couldn't find the creep or the rat.

:cursing: :grrr:

:rant2: I paged a GM. Once again the GM that anwsered my page proved how lazy, incompetent, usless and general worthless GMs have become! I had to wait through 13 people to get a canned response saying that GMs can not help witht this issue!? WT--! :twak: :cursing:

:yell: Then what earthly good are GMs!?!? Get rid of em and spend the money on fixing stuff in game since they CAN'T DO ANYTHING!!

To the Devs: Fix the Rat Minichamp to work like regular champ spawn otherwise every greifing a**hat will be luring off the Renown ratman as a new form of greifing.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone but I'm really, really angry and I'm fed up with the LACK of in game support.

Jirel
 

Maplestone

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the GMs are not a locater service.

Out of curiosity, which of the three clans were you working?

(if we definitively knew whether or not the ratmen were still in the abyss, I'd accept it as an annoying tracking quest ... the problem is that we don't know if they are being lured off hidden or have poofed - I searched around for you for a while and didn't see them anywhere myself; either way, I see this as a dev issue, not a GM issue)
 

Jirel of Joiry

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the GMs are not a locater service.

Out of curiosity, which of the three clans were you working?

(if we definitively knew whether or not the ratmen were still in the abyss, I'd accept it as an annoying tracking quest ... the problem is that we don't know if they are being lured off hidden or have poofed - I searched around for you for a while and didn't see them anywhere myself; either way, I see this as a dev issue, not a GM issue)
Ribbon Clan or Clan Ribbon however you say it. Sis and I went off and did other stuff. Then we came back and it never reset. We could never get it to go past the plague rat level; at one point we had my pally, sis with her Cu and Arwen with her Cu and we STILL couldn't get it to advance.

We have seen people drag the Renowneds off before, they really need to make it work like a regular champ.
 

Restroom Cowboy

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We have seen people drag the Renowneds off before, they really need to make it work like a regular champ.
Aww...if they do that I wont be able to drag the renowned pixie around with me through SA killing all the other baddies. :mad:

Slasher vs. Renowned 10000 HP Pixie = bad. The Pixie dies in two hits.
 
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