Casino Strategy

[The Mule]

I know its all a "random" number generator, but what are some of your winning strategies at the Casino? Saw some guy there betting 1m per game and playing both games at once though he didnt seem to want to talk. In the 15 minutes I sat there he must have had gone through 100m in bets.

So what works best for you?

 

[SlobberKnocker]

wouldnt it be funny if there was a way to manipulate this and that you could make 1 billion in an hour. not so funny really but i wonder how well this was vetted before it went live. its not such an outlandish assumption given as of yesterday trammies were still killing other players pets down in depise.

 

[MrMightySmith]

with this game i guarantee there is way to cheat that casino system haha.

 

[LordDrago]

I know you can bribe the npc's in the bod system...wonder if i can bribe one of the casino dealers?

 

[Thunderz]

MartinGale strategy working perfect for me im close to 50mill from stating with 100k


Thunderz

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

i made 30m first day betting max bid on outside and after id win id usually mix it up on high/low a few times then back to outside cuz it pays out 5x bet worked for me that day...lost prob 20m since though so....

 

[Phoenix_Mythic]

The Martingale strategy can only work if you have an unlimited bankroll and no betting limits.

 

[Nimuaq]

MartinGale strategy working perfect for me im close to 50mill from stating with 100k

Martingale requires you to double your bet until you win to compensate what you have lost before, and gain a profit that equals to your initial bet. If I bid 1k at first, 2k at second, 4k at third and 8k at fourth and finally win at 8k, I will get 8k, which is higher than the amount I lost previously (1+2+4=7), so a 1k profit, my initial bet. However, you can make 1k profit by killing an undead guardian and it doesn't take that long, so you need to increase your initial bet. So if I start at 100k, and still lose at 800k, I cant bid any higher to compensate since the maximum bet is capped at 1m, so I can't bid 1.6m to compensate and gain 100k, and even if I win at 1m, it still means that I lost 500k.

To sum up, Martingale will work if you have millions in the bank and infinite amount of time, but there also needs to be no cap on bets, which is not the case.

 

[Thunderz]

Martingale requires you to double your bet until you win to compensate what you have lost before, and gain a profit that equals to your initial bet. If I bid 1k at first, 2k at second, 4k at third and 8k at fourth and finally win at 8k, I will get 8k, which is higher than the amount I lost previously (1+2+4=7), so a 1k profit, my initial bet. However, you can make 1k profit by killing an undead guardian and it doesn't take that long, so you need to increase your initial bet. So if I start at 100k, and still lose at 800k, I cant bid any higher to compensate since the maximum bet is capped at 1m, so I can't bid 1.6m to compensate and gain 100k, and even if I win at 1m, it still means that I lost 500k.

To sum up, Martingale will work if you have millions in the bank and infinite amount of time, but there also needs to be no cap on bets, which is not the case.

I started betting with 100 chips 3 dice roll on 8 rounds i never didn't at least hit 1 die [im talking about the lucky game] and most times id get 1 or 2 dice within that 8 round bracket. if you look at the odds its like 98+% you'll a win within 6 rounds, cant remember the numbers but i think after 150 youll hit 0 in 6 at least once, with 8 rounds to play with your very very unlikely to to hit 0 in a rolls below 300 rounds [300*10000 [10000gp=100chips] supposing you only ever hit a lucky number once not counting the 2 or 3 lucky number possibility = 30million] Then add in the possibility that the 1 in less than 8 can be a double or triple win it takes that 30mill higher.

Oh and yes unlimited gold and time the unlimited cap doesnt matter when you have 3 dice and 8 rolls cap.

Thunderz

 

[Thunderz]

The Martingale strategy can only work if you have an unlimited bankroll and no betting limits.

Your half correct there [read up on it on wiki] there are certain circumstances when it will work, the reason it does in UO is because it uses an RNG and yes betting 10k gp when you have billions is kinda an unlimited pot and with the cap at 1mill 10 will let you roll 7 times and the chance of not getting a win in 7 is about 1.34%

In black jack there are a certain number of decks and if you get 2 Ace 4 times thats it untill the deck is shuffled, where as in uo you can get 2 Aces 100 times in a row or 0 100 times in a row

Thunderz

 

[NBG]

Phoenix, I hope you guys are tracking incoming bet total and out going pay off total on every shard hehe.

Instead of of a possible gold sink overall, I think you guys might have created an endless gold fountain.

 

[Nimuaq]

I started betting with 100 chips 3 dice roll on 8 rounds i never didn't at least hit 1 die [im talking about the lucky game] and most times id get 1 or 2 dice within that 8 round bracket. if you look at the odds its like 98+% you'll a win within 6 rounds, cant remember the numbers but i think after 150 youll hit 0 in 6 at least once, with 8 rounds to play with your very very unlikely to to hit 0 in a rolls below 300 rounds [300*10000 [10000gp=100chips] supposing you only ever hit a lucky number once not counting the 2 or 3 lucky number possibility = 30million] Then add in the possibility that the 1 in less than 8 can be a double or triple win it takes that 30mill higher.

Oh and yes unlimited gold and time the unlimited cap doesnt matter when you have 3 dice and 8 rolls cap.

Thunderz

You can't bet 8 times since your bet increases from 100, 200, 400, 800, 1,600, 3,200 to 6,400 and you cant bet 12,800 since the cap is 10,000. So, you need to win at least once on 7 rolls, which is about 97.8% (100% - 58%^7). However, you win 10k for each winning round while lose 1.27m when you lose. So (reference to Sir_Bolo):

97.8% * 10k - 2.2% 1270k = - 1,816k =~ - 1.8m

So you will lose 1.8m if you play it 100 times. Also, you say 300 rounds, but you can only win your initial bet of 10k, which makes 300*10k = 3m, not 30m. You need to play 3k times to have 30m with an initial bet of 10k (or 100 chips).

 

[SlobberKnocker]

i find this thread fascinating.

if i was the game designer the only way i would put something like this in game is if its a sure fire gold sink. im no gambler but from the outside looking in these games appear to be mighty simplistic. i dont want to see a scenario where ornies are going for 250 million gold next month because someone inadvertently turned the incoming gold faucet into niagra falls and theres some toon at every casino on every shard 23-1/2 hours a day raking in the gold.

 

[Thunderz]

You can't bet 8 times since your bet increases from 100, 200, 400, 800, 1,600, 3,200 to 6,400 and you cant bet 12,800 since the cap is 10,000. So, you need to win at least once on 7 rolls, which is about 97.8% (100% - 58%^7). However, you win 10k for each winning round while lose 1.27m when you lose. So (reference to Sir_Bolo):

97.8% * 10k - 2.2% 1270k = - 1,816k =~ - 1.8m

So you will lose 1.8m if you play it 100 times. Also, you say 300 rounds, but you can only win your initial bet of 10k, which makes 300*10k = 3m, not 30m. You need to play 3k times to have 30m with an initial bet of 10k (or 100 chips).

EDIT--- First you need to take into account its an RNG deciding so those numbers are correct in theory but not in practice as a RNG doesnt play by mathmatical caluclation rules........


Read up on the MartinGale system on wiki.... YOU always win 10% more as long as you bet double, and the chance of loosing 7 rolls (sorry i said 8 before) is close to impossible [1/150] but you would have won your inituall bet way before you hit 7 misses so you wont loose your gold youll loose a portion of your winnings................

Thunderz

 

[Phoenix_Mythic]

i find this thread fascinating.

if i was the game designer the only way i would put something like this in game is if its a sure fire gold sink. im no gambler but from the outside looking in these games appear to be mighty simplistic. i dont want to see a scenario where ornies are going for 250 million gold next month because someone inadvertently turned the incoming gold faucet into niagra falls and theres some toon at every casino on every shard 23-1/2 hours a day raking in the gold.

We made sure before publishing this that the system will not create gold over the long haul. All of the bets except one have a house edge. There is one bet in there that has no house edge, but no player edge either. Obviously a real casino would not normally spread a game where the house does not have an edge, but in a fantasy world we can get away with it.

Mathematical analysis of these games is fairly simple, because there are only 216 possible outcomes of 3 dice rolls. It all fits neatly in a small spreadsheet.

However, to back up the math and to check for something really unexpected, we wrote a bot to play the games and log the results, then analyzed the results in a number of ways. We used the bot so we could play against the actual live server code, instead of just creating a simulation. We checked wins/losses against expected values, and checked the frequency and distribution of the actual dice to make sure they replicated real randomness, and found no issues. These checks were done over millions of dice rolls.

These games are solid, and the player does not have an edge.

As far as the Martingale strategy goes, it's just not an effective way to win. If it were that easy, there would be no casinos in real life. Here's why: The basic Martingale system is to place a starting bet, then double your bet every time you lose, until you eventually win. If you have an unlimited bankroll and are allowed to bet any amount, then you could keep doubling up for an endless series of losses until you eventually win. But with a betting cap, then it just won't work.

Consider a simple example: Suppose you're flipping a slightly unfair coin on an even money bet. 49% of the time you win, 51% of the time you lose. A Martingale strategy would be: First, bet 100. Every time you lose, double your bet. Every time you win, start over at 100.

Suppose you lose 6 times in a row, then win your 7th flip. You will have lost 100 + 200 + 400 + 800 + 1600 + 3200 = 6300, and won 6400, for a net increase of 100 chips over 7 bets.

Now suppose you lose that 7th bet. Now you have lost 127,000 chips over 7 bets.

As long as there is no cap, you can keep doubling the bet to eventually win back everything you lost. But when there is a cap, you get to a point where you cannot recoup your losses. All you are doing is drastically increasing your variance: you've made it so you can either win very slowly or lose very rapidly. But at the end of the day, the house still has the edge.

 

[Thunderz]

We made sure before publishing this that the system will not create gold over the long haul. All of the bets except one have a house edge. There is one bet in there that has no house edge, but no player edge either. Obviously a real casino would not normally spread a game where the house does not have an edge, but in a fantasy world we can get away with it.

Mathematical analysis of these games is fairly simple, because there are only 216 possible outcomes of 3 dice rolls. It all fits neatly in a small spreadsheet.

However, to back up the math and to check for something really unexpected, we wrote a bot to play the games and log the results, then analyzed the results in a number of ways. We used the bot so we could play against the actual live server code, instead of just creating a simulation. We checked wins/losses against expected values, and checked the frequency and distribution of the actual dice to make sure they replicated real randomness, and found no issues. These checks were done over millions of dice rolls.

These games are solid, and the player does not have an edge.

As far as the Martingale strategy goes, it's just not an effective way to win. If it were that easy, there would be no casinos in real life. Here's why: The basic Martingale system is to place a starting bet, then double your bet every time you lose, until you eventually win. If you have an unlimited bankroll and are allowed to bet any amount, then you could keep doubling up for an endless series of losses until you eventually win. But with a betting cap, then it just won't work.

Consider a simple example: Suppose you're flipping a slightly unfair coin on an even money bet. 49% of the time you win, 51% of the time you lose. A Martingale strategy would be: First, bet 100. Every time you lose, double your bet. Every time you win, start over at 100.

Suppose you lose 6 times in a row, then win your 7th flip. You will have lost 100 + 200 + 400 + 800 + 1600 + 3200 = 6300, and won 6400, for a net increase of 100 chips over 7 bets.

Now suppose you lose that 7th bet. Now you have lost 127,000 chips over 7 bets.

As long as there is no cap, you can keep doubling the bet to eventually win back everything you lost. But when there is a cap, you get to a point where you cannot recoup your losses. All you are doing is drastically increasing your variance: you've made it so you can either win very slowly or lose very rapidly. But at the end of the day, the house still has the edge.

Yep your logic makes perfect sence but you wont loose 7 of 7 more than 2% of the time. why have i made nearly 50mill from 100k...........? It goes against what your sayoing unless im just very very lucky....?? id like you to come and watch me play the lucky guy on europa and see for your self Phoenixe.

Thunderz
PM Me

 

[Nimuaq]

EDIT--- First you need to take into account its an RNG deciding so those numbers are correct in theory but not in practice as a RNG doesnt play by mathmatical caluclation rules........


Read up on the MartinGale system on wiki.... YOU always win 10% more as long as you bet double, and the chance of loosing 7 rolls (sorry i said 8 before) is close to impossible [1/150] but you would have won your inituall bet way before you hit 7 misses so you wont loose your gold youll loose a portion of your winnings................

Thunderz

Edit: I'm not questioning if you won 50m using this strategy and I have no reason to doubt that you did. I'm just calculating the odds. While my calculations show that with a uniform rng, it is unlikely that this strategy will work for every player, I haven't accounted for the times it gives double or triple the bet, but you need to be at a high roll to make a difference with them. I'd like to see the simulation results of this strategy using the actual server code as well.

 

[Ender76]

I love threads like this. It makes me believe that our player base is either 12 year old kids or math illiterates. The optimal strategy is not to play. Martingale is a flawed strategy as long as the odds are in the house's favor. And if you crunch the numbers correctly, the odds are definitely not in the players' favor. I was on ATL, some guy was doing Martingale, insisting it would pay off eventually b/c the odds were "too generous". Too bad he had to keep hitting the cashier for more chips. My guess is he miscalculated the odds on the 2 die / 3 die occurances or got really lucky when he had already lost 6+ straight rolls.

100k to 50mm? I call BS. Especially using Martingale. Martingale is small payoffs dude. If you really did size it for up to 7 losses in a row, you'd make less than 1% per winning cycle. 500 fold is bs.

 

[Thunderz]

Thats perfectly my point Phoenix you used a bot... A bot doesnt have a mind of its own it does what you tell it and want it too, thats why bugs come out after you guys have tested and tested and tested things in the game and think there sound as the "BOT" told you they were...

Humams have brains BOTS dont thats why bugs get missed, now if you asked me to play the lucky game 1 million times i could of told you after 100 rolls it was flawed.

Thunderz

 

[Ender76]

Thats perfectly my point Phoenix you used a bot... A bot doesnt have a mind of its own it does what you tell it and want it too, thats why bugs come out after you guys have tested and tested and tested things in the game and think there sound as the "BOT" told you they were...

Humams have brains BOTS dont thats why bugs get missed, now if you asked me to play the lucky game 1 million times i could of told you after 100 rolls it was flawed.

Thunderz

BEE ESSSSSSSSSSS

 

[kelmo]

Time will see who's math is better.

 

[kelmo]

As far as the rest of it goes... It is gambling. House always wins. Streaks happen. I never had some one I know go to Vegas and never come back.

 

[The Mule]

Thanks Phoenix and youts others for the replies. I shal take my hard stolen gold and dump it in the "RNG" and see where it goes. Worst that can happen is I go broke and maybe get a "I lost all my gold at Fortune's Casino and I got was this lousy t-shirt" t-shirt.

 

[LordDrago]

I never had some one I know go to Vegas and never come back.

I did...heard he took an escorted "tour" to the desert.

 

[The Mule]

***Update***

I tried the modified Martingale strategy as listed above and only bet on lucky number 4. I won a 2 dice on a 3200 bet and was winning pretty well for about 20 minutes. Quickly got up 300k. Then the house won a couple streaks and then the 7 in a row hit and I got down to 400 chips. Screwed the strategy and dumped the last and lost my initial 1m investment. I went and took out another 1m and did an "all in" roll and it hit 2 dice. I walked away with a cool mil overall for the night. Not today house, not today...

 

[Lady Michelle]

Gambling is a sin
Before you know it will you'll be gold less not one gold piece to your name. Next you will be putting your items up for sale. Once that's all gone next thing to feed your gambling addiction is putting your house up for sale. Where will it end ? Will you have to join some guild called gamblers anonymous or start your own?

 

[Nimuaq]

Gambling is a sin
Before you know it will you'll be gold less not one gold piece to your name. Next you will be putting your items up for sale. Once that's all gone next thing to feed your gambling addiction is putting your house up for sale. Where will it end ? Will you have to join some guild called gamblers anonymous or start your own?

I haven't gambled once (apart from testing this system), not because it is a sin, just because making or losing gold out of thin air makes no sense to me. However, you can also lose all your gold if you try to set up a stall in New Magincia and set 1% commission to make something useful for the community where they can trade their goods with others, and you will lose 9m for every 1m of transaction of a griefer (see TullyMars' analysis of 1% commission here) plus you have to pay the weekly fee. Thus, you can go bankrupt by trying do something good as well, its name is the encampment system, and made us go bankrupt in the game and sell our items to not to rip off other players, we still have our houses though .

 

[Manticore]

only way to make sure that house always takes a cut is the Texas Hold-Em game. Create poker houses with floors each floor has 8-10 tables that seats 12. The dealer is always NPC and he/she always takes a % cut on each card dealt. First floor low wagers 100,200, 500 - second floor midium wagers 500,1000,1500 - third floor high wagers 1000, 5000, 10,000 chips. Over time this should pull lots of gold from the game.

 

[SlobberKnocker]

Mr. Moore,

thanks for the explanation. in the end this should be another form of entertainment for the player base. i would hate to see the scenario
where billions of gold gets pumped in the game, the casino is closed and the gold allowed to remain.

i dont believe this is in anyone's best interest.

Cheers.

 

[LordDrago]

Gambling is a sin
Before you know it will you'll be gold less not one gold piece to your name. Next you will be putting your items up for sale. Once that's all gone next thing to feed your gambling addiction is putting your house up for sale. Where will it end ? Will you have to join some guild called gamblers anonymous or start your own?

LOL...Reminds me of a co-worker of mine that would sell raffle tickets for drawings for his church. This one was for a TV. Now, normally, I participate without a problem (a couple dollars here and there didn't bother me). However, this time, he came into work, tossed a book of tickets at me, and said "give me $20." I threw the book back at him and told him no (didn't like his attitude that I was expected to buy tickets let alone 20 of them.) He then gave me his spiel on what a great cause it was, etc. So I asked hin how many tickets he had bought. His answer..."none,,,gamblings a sin!"...uhhhhh...but this is a raffle from your church!?! Go figure.

 

[slayer888]

Actually, I have tried all the method whatever those Matginale or my calculated ones or whatsoever, the chance to lose is WAY bigger than to win:-

Why?

#1. The NPC got unlimited money, and whether you are a billionare, or super billianare in UO, giving out 1 mil would hurt yourself, because human is just that greedy.

#2. The dice are rolled randomly by UO, unless there are more people playing the game at the same time, otherwise there is always way that the NPC cheat you by not opening your numbers. (Guess what I have tried not winning for 40 streaks [outside bet] for 1 v 1 with the NPC). What a scam!!!

#3. 100, 200, 400, 800, 1600, 3200, 6400 is purely stupid and crazy because in UO, it is easy to lose 7 streaks in a row. Unless like i said, you have 10 others people sitting besides you, losing the bets to the NPC (well you see, the NPC still gains).

#4. I tried to bet for 1 single number for approximately 10 times (on the guess dice game), those 10 times streak never opened my number.

#5. I then tried to randomly pick the number every time and increase my bet everytime I lose, still 10 or 20 times streak, the game just wouldnt open my number (maybe I am just that unlucky), but I doubt it. I think its just the UO setting making the system not rolling that dice. (well maybe I am wrong, but I have a strong feeling that is it) Because as stated by many others of the above, in reality, the chance to lose 7 times streak is very low %, but to me, it isnt a very low %, just now i just changed 5000 chips and do a simple test, I basically using the Martingale strategy and lost 20 streaks in a row immediately and all my 500k gold is gone.

So in conclusion, this UO casino is actually a gold sink to me for now rather than a place to dupe money. So my advice is, if you are to play this game, just set your target first.

How much you wanna lose today?

5 mil? 10 mil? 50 mil? Once its all lost, then just quit your game for today.

If you're in a winning streak (which is very unlikely) because the odds for winning even the highest chance per game is approximately max of 30%, then continue your winning streaks until you have reached a losing streak of 6 times then you just quit and call it a day and get what you earned.

Don't play for the Matingale method as everytime earn 10k is really crappy!

Try set a target like this:-

2,000 chips
5,000 chips
10,000 chips

if 2,000 wins = next round 4,000 chips
if 4,000 wins = back to 2,000 chips [because rarely would be able to have more than 2 streaks; i have tried many times]

If 2,000 lose = next round 5,000 chips
if 5,000 lose = next round 10,000 chips
if 10,000 lose = back to 2,000 chips

if 2nd round 2,000 lose = next round 5,000 chips
if 2nd round 5,000 lose = next round 10,000 chips
if 2nd round 10,000 lose = just quit and call it a day or change another char to play if you are so addicted

if you are keep on winning 2,000, 4,000 or 2,000, 5,000 or 10,000 (which usually you wont get in a lose streak more than 3; just continue the same method until you reach a lose streak of 6 then just cash out and call it a day).

This would be the method I use in UO world.

The max you lose is 3.4 mil. Moreover, you're not using (100+200+400+800+1600+3200+6400) for 100 chips! LOL

100 chips = 10,000 = you need to win 340 times to win 3.4 mil -.-... this is not what UO peeps like to call RISK VS REWARD.. not worth it man.

So in conclusion Martingale strategy doesnt work for unlucky guys and its MORE stupid to work for lucky guys.

Because if you are lucky, you would just bet 10k chips and get it all the way to 100k chips... because if you are a lucky guy than the NPC, you would have win more than lose even in EVEN BETS.

But this is UO and the program are customized so that you have very low chance or probably (0%) chance to win in the end, so playing EVEN BETS and trying to win UO is probably never gonna happen.

I tried all of the game.

big
small
(except middle) <- cuz this one is stupidly low chance
outside <- this one i thought is good, but when I have seen ppl and myself lost over 40 streaks, it is hopeless.
guess dice <- i lost over 20 streaks in a row in a 1 v 1 so making me think that UO have programed so that it is possible the dice (whether same number or not), wont appear at all until your chips run out LOL.

Anyways, so long and maybe some are repetitives that I have posted.. but just my experience from these 3 days.

Now in conclusion:-

1st day - 3.5 mil net profit [using random bets from 1k to 10k and not Martingale or whatever method applied, just all randomly]
2nd day - 5 mil net loss [using all mixed method, Martingale, whatever 1/4/7, etc..]
3rd day - 3 mil net loss [using all mixed method, random dice]

 

[Ender76]

Slayer,

Betting strategy makes zero difference as long as the game has a built in house edge. The betting strategy only determines how fast you blow out. Casinos love martingale players

 

[Lord X]

I tried out the new casino... I put like 300 a time on OUTSIDE and lost enough times where I thought the next bet would hit and I bet 10,000. Going from 1 mill to 14 mill I was able to succesfully pull that manuever off twice. (2 mill wager for 10 mill pay out). Tried it a third time later on and failed alot and got down to 8 mill. But still overall a profit on day one.

 

[Amber Witch]

By the way, thanks for bravely responding Mr. Moore!

 

[O'Brien]

Working in a casino, I constantly see players make the type of logical errors that they can predict the RNG or a certain table or number or machine is "due" to pay or attempt the flawed "Martingale strategy" (these ones realize their error/go broke/burn out the fastest.)" Thanks for your money, guys

What Phoenix_Mythic posted sounds refreshingly sound. It's such a simple concept but so many just fail to grasp. It seems people don't understand basic statistics or logic, or are just victims of wishful thinking or believing they are special.

But I'm sure we'll see posts with folks bragging about how they walked away with millions using their winning strategy and others jumping on saying "see, you can beat the system!" But for every winner, there is a higher number of losers, who incidentally are not as interested in posting their results.

 

[MagicStar]

Played 3 times
Won over 100 mil each time
Im quite pleased and scared at the same time lol

 

[Poo]

where you guys are missing the boat is this.
you are using stats from your self.
one person.
you have to remember that there are hundreds or thousands of people playing.
so if you win 100 mill
chances are 300 people broke even.
chances are 200 people lost a little.
chances are 40 people lost a lot.

times that by the amount of shards.

THAT is why the house always wins.

 

[The Craftsman]

I am aware of the Martingale method, and its flaws, but thought i'd give it a try. I started with 1,000,000 worth of chips and made a 500k profit in around 30 mins, betting low at 150, 300, 600, 1200, 2400, 4800, 9600 bet increments. The most losses in a row I got was four so I had a lot of leeway (7 losses will wipe you out as has been stated in this thread).

I'll try again tonight for a couple of hours and see if I can get wiped out over that time period. If not i'll make a couple of million profit.

 

[Heimi]

I'm down 36m, my strategy is to lose repeatedly

 

[Varrius]

only way to make sure that house always takes a cut is the Texas Hold-Em game. Create poker houses with floors each floor has 8-10 tables that seats 12. The dealer is always NPC and he/she always takes a % cut on each card dealt. First floor low wagers 100,200, 500 - second floor midium wagers 500,1000,1500 - third floor high wagers 1000, 5000, 10,000 chips. Over time this should pull lots of gold from the game.

This is the best idea yet.

 

[The Craftsman]

So, im now 1 million up after 1 hour of playing. Im curious ... Is there any spawn that you can farm and earn 1 million per hour from? Whats the best thing to farm these days and what return per hour in gold will it give you?

 

[Ender76]

So, im now 1 million up after 1 hour of playing. Im curious ... Is there any spawn that you can farm and earn 1 million per hour from? Whats the best thing to farm these days and what return per hour in gold will it give you?

Uh, you are making a pretty big assumption - that your 1hr sample size is repeatable. Also, when you fail a spawn, you don't lose millions.

 

[The Craftsman]

Very true, although im just trying to establish if its a viable gold farming method. So far it is ... only time will tell I suppose. My aim is to make 10m profit by tonight.

 

[The Mule]

I've been doing a short game winning streak. I take 1m in and as soon as Im up 100K I leave and come back in a couple hours. Im usually in and out in under 5 minutes. So far Im up 2.3m over the past 3 days. It may not be much to those billionaires in game, but Im not one of them.

 

[slayer888]

Played 3 times
Won over 100 mil each time
Im quite pleased and scared at the same time lol

Yea and lol, we've smell some bull $hit coming from ya mouth.....

unless you would give me 50 mil to proof it.

 

[slayer888]

Very true, although im just trying to establish if its a viable gold farming method. So far it is ... only time will tell I suppose. My aim is to make 10m profit by tonight.

Sorry, but please don't mind what I am going to say...

I think the chance to lose 10 mil for ya would be much bigger than you win LOL!

Let's do some basic calculation on your method:-

150 300 600 1200 2400 4800 9600 <- 7 chances

Winning Bet = fixed = 150 = UO Gold **BIG WHOOPING 15,000 gold coins**

Losing Bet = 1st round = 15,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 2nd round = 45,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 3rd round = 105,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 4th round = 225,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 5th round = 465,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 6th round = 945,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 7th round = 1,905,000 gold coins

In order to win 10,000,000 gold coins, you would have to win 667 times

In order to lose 10,000,000 gold coins, it would take you only around 20 losing streaks (20 losing streaks is NOT uncommon especially in UO world; it happens most frequently in the "OUTSIDE" bet game where I have tried losing a streak of over 40 times).

So I would suggest, you should do something more productive in UO to earn your gold rather than paying your free money to the UO casino. If you have too much money, I don't mind you would sponsor me so that I could change to more godly suits to kick ppl arse.

 

[MagicStar]

Yea and lol, we've smell some bull $hit coming from ya mouth.....

unless you would give me 50 mil to proof it.

lol thats ok id rather people not believe me
im tryin to win all i can before its nerfed

up 600 mil so far allthough one day i thought my fun was over i lost 90 mil
then took a break and came back and started to win again

im not saying theres a pattern or way to beat the casino
im saying its really easy to win a whole lot


anyone know how much castles go for on atlantic these days?
i will be soon closing my shop and selling it due to not needing it anymore

 

[The Craftsman]

Sorry, but please don't mind what I am going to say...

I think the chance to lose 10 mil for ya would be much bigger than you win LOL!

Let's do some basic calculation on your method:-

150 300 600 1200 2400 4800 9600 <- 7 chances

Winning Bet = fixed = 150 = UO Gold **BIG WHOOPING 15,000 gold coins**

Losing Bet = 1st round = 15,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 2nd round = 45,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 3rd round = 105,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 4th round = 225,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 5th round = 465,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 6th round = 945,000 gold coins
Losing Bet = 7th round = 1,905,000 gold coins

In order to win 10,000,000 gold coins, you would have to win 667 times

In order to lose 10,000,000 gold coins, it would take you only around 20 losing streaks (20 losing streaks is NOT uncommon especially in UO world; it happens most frequently in the "OUTSIDE" bet game where I have tried losing a streak of over 40 times).

So I would suggest, you should do something more productive in UO to earn your gold rather than paying your free money to the UO casino. If you have too much money, I don't mind you would sponsor me so that I could change to more godly suits to kick ppl arse.

Well, so far Ive played for around six hours and am around 7m gold up. I havent had a single streak of 7 losing rolls in a row. 667 winning spins isnt that much over a period of say 10 hours. And whilst you may mock the **BIG WHOOPING 15,000 gold coins** per win, that win is equating to almost 200,000 gold every 10 minutes of play. Its working

 

[slayer888]

lol thats ok id rather people not believe me
im tryin to win all i can before its nerfed

up 600 mil so far allthough one day i thought my fun was over i lost 90 mil
then took a break and came back and started to win again

im not saying theres a pattern or way to beat the casino
im saying its really easy to win a whole lot


anyone know how much castles go for on atlantic these days?
i will be soon closing my shop and selling it due to not needing it anymore

Yea and as long as my 50 mil is not received from you, all the words from your mouth about winning 1 mil 2 mil 100 mil 1000 mil 100000000 mil are all just smells of bull$hits.

 

[slayer888]

Well, so far Ive played for around six hours and am around 7m gold up. I havent had a single streak of 7 losing rolls in a row. 667 winning spins isnt that much over a period of say 10 hours. And whilst you may mock the **BIG WHOOPING 15,000 gold coins** per win, that win is equating to almost 200,000 gold every 10 minutes of play. Its working

That's really good for you so please continue to win 15,000 gold coins per game while your risk of losing of 1.9 mil for that 15k is highly possible in this UO world. As the numbers the dice rolled can adjusted to not open as your favourite. You've got no control on that at all but the NPC can.

You haven't had a single streak of 7 losing rolls in a row. (May I ask which game you're playing?) LoL. Like I said, the highest % of one's game winning is about 35% (that is either the big/small dice roll).

7 numbers / 20 combinations = 35%

And for more games you're playing, the losing streak % will increase up to a point where it could reach upwards to 95+%. So its hard to believe you're playing for 6 hours and not having a losing streak of 7 at all. If you have a losing streak of 7, it will take you 127 winning games to get back what you've lost.

So you should evaluate whether its worth it or not. hehehehehe

But again, you maybe a real lucky person that you should continue as a UO gambler until your luck runs out. LOL.