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Lore Denin (GL)

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So you are all so narrow minded you will judge us all by one persons actions. I guess then I am better off not knowing any of you. Wow, maybe what some say about Siege is right you all hold grudges a long time. I will hope because thats the way I am that you will find it in your hearts to judge me by my actions and not those you think I might be making because of what someone else did however long ago it was. I have gotten to know the people who run the fyou tag and find them to be fun, trustworthy and I like them. I don't know D but so far he has not done anything to make me see the evil monster you all think he is. Trust me I have already told him if I see or hear of him being the kind of person he was in the past I will be the first to ask him to leave or leave myself. If you guys don't want to give him a second chance thats your personal opinion. I still think people should be given the benefit of the doubt and so far I see no reason not to give D that same consideration.

I was brought up different I guess than most of you, I don't make my opinions on someone by what someone else says I make them on what that person shows me. If you want to base your opinion on what tag I carry I feel very sorry for you, because I think you are losing out on making a very good friend.
I am judging based on FYOU going out of its way to kill and loot Silent Singer,who was their friend and allie. I don't think anyone thought Silent was showing up to kill FYOU members? I don't know Silent, or any FYOU's (that I know of). I simply feel terrible that he has put time and effort into these events and they are now canceled BECAUSE of the GUILD you now support? Maybe you two didn't get along, I have no idea but he is the victim in this and instead of saying how we shouldn't judge FYOU on past actions, you fail to address the current issue which we I am judging and to me was down right rotten. Instead of defending FYOU poor actions, why not do something positive and help your former guildmates host their events without harassment from your new guildmates.

-Lore
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Candy Cane

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I am judging based on FYOU going out of its way to kill and loot Silent Singer,who was their friend and allie. I don't think anyone thought Silent was showing up to kill FYOU members? I don't know Silent, or any FYOU's (that I know of). I simply feel terrible that he has put time and effort into these events and they are now canceled BECAUSE of the GUILD you now support? Maybe you two didn't get along, I have no idea but he is the victim in this and instead of saying how we shouldn't judge FYOU on past actions, you fail to address the current issue which we I am judging and to me was down right rotten. Instead of defending FYOU poor actions, why not do something positive and help your former guildmates host their events without harassment from your new guildmates.

-Lore
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See you are judging something you know nothing about. Silent was in vent and he was told he should pick a guild, since almost all of BA had alts in fyou, including silent, had he come on his alt that is in fyou there would not have been a problem.

Silent and I get along great, unless something has changed on his part. I would rather he explain what happened. I know from my side as I was in vent when he was there and then left. I was also there when he showed up on his silent.

No one said fyou would try and ruin his events, that I am aware of. So before you speak you might want to get all the facts.
 

Candy Cane

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Plus I am almost certain fyou couldn't ruin a fish tale story held on the forums, or the biggest fish caught. So it would be fairly easy for him to have at least those two events.
 

Lore Denin (GL)

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Plus I am almost certain fyou couldn't ruin a fish tale story held on the forums, or the biggest fish caught. So it would be fairly easy for him to have at least those two events.
I concede, for there is one thing we can all agree, there is no arguing the wisdom of Meatloaf.


-Lore
 

Sliced

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I was, still am saddened by the whole thing. Everyone has their opinions on the matter but i think the number one factor that should be focused on and discussed isnt the whole choosing sides part. everyone is the victim here. the choices any of us has made the past couple days shouldnt be a mark against who they are for one very simple fact. we were forced into it. forced to chose. so kill that issue. who of us wanted to have to chose? none. i hold no grudges on either side of the fence. every single person in both guilds have helped me get started here, donated items, gold, and time to seeing im set up and ready to roll here. none of them asked me for anything but gave freely. that is what is important. every single one of us from both guilds have farmed and pvped together and had a great time. are these moments not what we are all here and friends for? yes there are just some people who just cant get along. not everyone can mesh. that is fine. just dont talk to the one person out of a dozen you cant get along with. dont deal with them, dont give them your trust. and most importantly dont disregard the feelings of the dozen or more people you call friends without a heads up to your own feelings. this sounds a little more directly pointed to certain individuals as i intended but there is no way around it.. im not angry or calling anyone out.. **** happens, we are all adults here. we should all be able to communicate better than this. -K'Spah-
 

FrejaSP

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I do find this sad, alot used alot time fishing, was no reason to cancel that part. I understand the Street Fight, even when I don't think this intern guild had changed much.
To Silent, I hope you get this solved with your friends in both guilds. I can tell, friendly fights can be alot of fun.
Don't give up Siege, there are other guilds out there, if you get this worked out.
 

Troll The T Hunter

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"I don't know D but so far he has not done anything to make me see the evil monster you all think he is."

Really? he has years. I repeat, years of reputation to look at. If someone does a couple bad things you might give them a second, third, forth chance. We are so far beyond that now there's no question what he's about. Please give him access to your rares, account info, etc... and watch what happens. It wont happen right off the bat no that's not how it works. I'm not going to say what will happen that's probably against the TOS but something will happen.

Anyone who runs with him your just as bad as he is.
 

Candy Cane

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All I am going to say is OMG Siege isn't about guild drama its about Shard wide drama. Guess its back to LS for me. I came here to be part of a smaller community that had some of the feel of old uo, but this has truly been a disappointment. All this feels like high school drama bs and I'm not into that. Good luck to all of you, play nice and Peace.
 

kelmo

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*shakes head* This is what Diablo and FYOU do. Sorry anyone fell for it.
 

Riyana

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This thread has strayed well away from its original intent and is no longer serving any purpose but drama. Locked.
 
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