Bushido Nerfing parry

[Semistun]

I was just wondering is if you have bushido does it nerf training parry? The reason for this is I cannot seem to gain parry at a reasonable rate at all since I picked up bushido.......does anyone know?

 

[Connor_Graham]

That depends on how high the Bushido is. If you've got 120 Bushido, then you need to equip a shield and a wep you have no skill in to get Parry gains. If Bushido is low, then you'd go without the shield.

 

[imperterritus]

As far as I know, Bushido does not interfere with the training of Parry, at least so far as xp-gained/hour. However, if you have bushido, train without a shield, because gains are tied to successful parry attempts. Bushido does nerf parry itself when holding a shield, meaning there will be less succesful parries to gain from.

I'm not comfortable contradicting Connor, but I don't understand why it would make any difference if Bushido were 120 or 50. You'd train Parry without a shield in either instance, right?

 

[Connor_Graham]

However, if you have bushido, train without a shield, because gains are tied to successful parry attempts.

This is incorrect. It seems contradictory to normal skill training, but you want the least chance to parry as possible.

 

[Stupid Miner]

This is incorrect. It seems contradictory to normal skill training, but you want the least chance to parry as possible.

Tested both ways, didn't see much of a difference.

 

[pgcd]

I don't know what happens _without_ bushido, but I easily trained the last 5 points in parry simply using a weapon I had no skill with and using confidence to heal (it really seemed to make a difference).
My suggestion is use sheep and do it all the way in a single session, if you can - sheep train with you, so you'll see they do a little more damage (maybe 3 points instead of 1), but they also hit a lot more and allow you to have a lot more parry attempts.

 

[NickyDishes]

well ive tested both ways including training parry up on my mage without bush and connor is right......when training u want the opposite of what's required to parry....for example if im training parry with bush i wanna equip a sheild and a weapon that doesnt use the skill i have(equip a mace if i have swords)....if im training parry without bush i wanna equip a one handed weapon of opposite skill and no sheild. make sense?

 

[Lynk]

I've had the best results with what Connor mentions, and I've trained parry on a lot of chars, since damn near every PvP char I use has it.

Do that, and disarm about 40 of those yatches in the jhelom pits and you are 120 in 1.35 hours!

 

[gortman]

Do that, and disarm about 40 of those yatches in the jhelom pits and you are 120 in 1.35 hours!

Sorry for the seriously newbie question, but how do you disarm an NPC? I've seen a post that mentions having a disarm weapon or having someone do it for you, but I'm still not sure exactly what needs to be done or how to do it.

Thanks for your patience!

 

[LionUWF]

in the pits you can attack the fighters, make sure you are out of the guard zone though, attack them and disarm them trying not to kill them.

With enough unarmed FEMALE fighters as possible start training parry

must be female, makles will do damage, females will not

 

[gortman]

in the pits you can attack the fighters, make sure you are out of the guard zone though, attack them and disarm them trying not to kill them.

With enough unarmed FEMALE fighters as possible start training parry

must be female, makles will do damage, females will not

I'm wondering exactly how your character does the disarming part. Thanks for the reply!

 

[LionUWF]

ah well depending what weapon type you use there are weapons that have a special called 'disarm', the special moves are in your paperdoll its a little book by your chars left leg (in 2d not sure about EC)


you get one of these weapons, run upto the female fighter, attack her, use the disarm special to disarm her then swap from war mode to peace mode so the fighter is attacking you but your not attacking the fighter, you have to be careful not to kill the fighter, find another female fighter, re arm yourself, disarm the fighter, peace mode, rinse and repeat until you have 5+ female disarmed fighters hitting you then sit back with your parrying wep/shield and watch the gains roll in.

you need to use BLUE female fighters in the pit out of the guard zone.

 

[Lynk]

I'm wondering exactly how your character does the disarming part. Thanks for the reply!

I use a Silver War Fork of Vanquishing.

 

[gortman]

Lynx and Lion, thanks a ton for the help. Exactly what I was looking for!