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shadowking
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hell cats or hell hounds make a better pack next to ozzies?
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best pack beside ozzies
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bosskram
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How about the raptors has anyone tamed a few of these and gone hunting
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shulginist
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I found raptors to be mediocre at best.
There are a few things you need to look at when judging a pack.
Bearing in mind that packs are meant for pure offense, you need to look at their base damage and strength.
With that in mind:
Hell hound: 21-30 damage, 150 strength max
Hell cat (predator) 10-32 damage, 185 strength max
Frenzied ostard: 25-35 damage, 170 strength max
In other words, dogs and cats can go either way really. Cats have a better max damage, but dog have a better average damage.
Other packs do less damage or only come in pairs, and are typically not as useful as the three animals above.
Bearing in mind that packs are meant for pure offense, you need to look at their base damage and strength.
With that in mind:
Hell hound: 21-30 damage, 150 strength max
Hell cat (predator) 10-32 damage, 185 strength max
Frenzied ostard: 25-35 damage, 170 strength max
In other words, dogs and cats can go either way really. Cats have a better max damage, but dog have a better average damage.
Other packs do less damage or only come in pairs, and are typically not as useful as the three animals above.
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[JD]
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how do you get a leather wolf golem?
also how the hell do you even train an ozzie pack? I got a couple nice frenzieds and bonded them. took them out to hunt and they constantly get beaten up even on easy crap. either that or they finish it off too fast and dont get training from it. its almost like i need to bring something tough like a 3 slot dragon or 4 slot cu and have that critter tank and the ozzies as a damage add. i guess i just discovered the only reason to even still have a regular dragon lol.
has anyone tried nightmare + white wyrm combo? is rune beetle still better?
plus i dont have the stable space for an entire pack!
also how the hell do you even train an ozzie pack? I got a couple nice frenzieds and bonded them. took them out to hunt and they constantly get beaten up even on easy crap. either that or they finish it off too fast and dont get training from it. its almost like i need to bring something tough like a 3 slot dragon or 4 slot cu and have that critter tank and the ozzies as a damage add. i guess i just discovered the only reason to even still have a regular dragon lol.
has anyone tried nightmare + white wyrm combo? is rune beetle still better?
plus i dont have the stable space for an entire pack!
Leather wolf is made by tinkers.
You train an ostard pack by coupling 2 or 3 with a nightmare (or bake kitsune) and hitting shadow elementals. Otherwise you'll need to train them one by one. You could do the whole pack on shadow elements, but this way is easier. Just make sure the nightmare is the target.
Rune beetle is far and away the best three slot pet. I use mine with a nightmare frequently (but not as much as with a bake kitsune).
You train an ostard pack by coupling 2 or 3 with a nightmare (or bake kitsune) and hitting shadow elementals. Otherwise you'll need to train them one by one. You could do the whole pack on shadow elements, but this way is easier. Just make sure the nightmare is the target.
Rune beetle is far and away the best three slot pet. I use mine with a nightmare frequently (but not as much as with a bake kitsune).
Training packs is just like training bigger pets - look for a mob with similar skills which won't beat the daylights out of your pets.
There's a guide stickied here for training pets, and also one I've used for years here.
From my notes, these are the monsters I trained my cats' melee skills with:
Deathwatch hatchings to 53.6 (non aggressive)
Corpsers to 77.2 or ettin or gaman will take them to about 80.6 (gaman won't aggro and take a while to kill, so I'd recommend those)
At 60.1 you can try lizardmen or trolls to 87.3
Finish up with harpies, ogres and black solen warriors
Once you've got some practice, try involving easy casters to work up resist as you go. Saves you having to work up resist specifically later on
At first you'll likely want to keep your pets nearby and get used to handling 5 at once.
Whatever you train on, I'd stress the importance of having the monster and your pets at the right level, same with shadow eles - if a mob is far too hard, your gains won't be as efficient. Or your pets will just die. Likewise if it's too easy, gains won't be great either.
Wenchy
There's a guide stickied here for training pets, and also one I've used for years here.
From my notes, these are the monsters I trained my cats' melee skills with:
Deathwatch hatchings to 53.6 (non aggressive)
Corpsers to 77.2 or ettin or gaman will take them to about 80.6 (gaman won't aggro and take a while to kill, so I'd recommend those)
At 60.1 you can try lizardmen or trolls to 87.3
Finish up with harpies, ogres and black solen warriors
Once you've got some practice, try involving easy casters to work up resist as you go. Saves you having to work up resist specifically later on
At first you'll likely want to keep your pets nearby and get used to handling 5 at once.
Whatever you train on, I'd stress the importance of having the monster and your pets at the right level, same with shadow eles - if a mob is far too hard, your gains won't be as efficient. Or your pets will just die. Likewise if it's too easy, gains won't be great either.
Wenchy
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Tuchman
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A quick couple of ? When looking for a good pack of Ostards, do you look for high str, resists, or hits over 100 ? and will the hits train up to 125 ? and as for an Ostard with 160 or over str it's like looking for that one feather in a pillow factoryTraining packs is just like training bigger pets - look for a mob with similar skills which won't beat the daylights out of your pets.
There's a guide stickied here for training pets, and also one I've used for years here.
From my notes, these are the monsters I trained my cats' melee skills with:
Deathwatch hatchings to 53.6 (non aggressive)
Corpsers to 77.2 or ettin or gaman will take them to about 80.6 (gaman won't aggro and take a while to kill, so I'd recommend those)
At 60.1 you can try lizardmen or trolls to 87.3
Finish up with harpies, ogres and black solen warriors
Once you've got some practice, try involving easy casters to work up resist as you go. Saves you having to work up resist specifically later on
At first you'll likely want to keep your pets nearby and get used to handling 5 at once.
Whatever you train on, I'd stress the importance of having the monster and your pets at the right level, same with shadow eles - if a mob is far too hard, your gains won't be as efficient. Or your pets will just die. Likewise if it's too easy, gains won't be great either.
Wenchy
Defensive stats and resists are useful for all pets, however with a pack critter even the toughest is always going to be quite squishy. I'd take time selecting a pack leader who was strong on defense, as that pet is the first you'll send in to battle and he'll take the hits first from any monster you fight. It makes life a little easier to manage if your leader doesn't drop like a fly But aside from the leader, I pick all my pack members for the damage they deal out first, then if I can get good resists etc that's a bonus.
You can always tame a starter pack and try replacing the members with better ones as you find them. I used to keep note of the stats of my stabled pack and sit at the spawn turning it over for something better.
Any pet stat below 125 can train up to 125. it's worth looking for the high strength ozzies to get better damage from them, but I'd suggest that you tame a starter pack and just change out the weakest members for better ones as you find them. That way if you can't find something better, you've got the first ones bonded and ready to go.
Wenchy
But aside from the leader, I pick all my pack members for the damage they deal out first, then if I can get good resists etc that's a bonus. You can always tame a starter pack and try replacing the members with better ones as you find them. I used to keep note of the stats of my stabled pack and sit at the spawn turning it over for something better.
Any pet stat below 125 can train up to 125. it's worth looking for the high strength ozzies to get better damage from them, but I'd suggest that you tame a starter pack and just change out the weakest members for better ones as you find them. That way if you can't find something better, you've got the first ones bonded and ready to go.
Wenchy
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Tuchman
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Thank you very good advice !Defensive stats and resists are useful for all pets, however with a pack critter even the toughest is always going to be quite squishy. I'd take time selecting a pack leader who was strong on defense, as that pet is the first you'll send in to battle and he'll take the hits first from any monster you fight. It makes life a little easier to manage if your leader doesn't drop like a fly
You can always tame a starter pack and try replacing the members with better ones as you find them. I used to keep note of the stats of my stabled pack and sit at the spawn turning it over for something better.
Any pet stat below 125 can train up to 125. it's worth looking for the high strength ozzies to get better damage from them, but I'd suggest that you tame a starter pack and just change out the weakest members for better ones as you find them. That way if you can't find something better, you've got the first ones bonded and ready to go.
Wenchy
(selecting a pack leader who was strong on defense)
Its just that I'v heard that agressive pets like Frenzies are bugged when it comes to their hit points ? I do have a chicken thats stuck at 123 :-( i'll soon see if this is true, working a decent one now that has 98 hit points but str and resists are very nice.