Prior to the 2 new ones, One of my characters had done some of the virtues, Honesty, Sacrifice, Valour and Compassion and had reached the 3rd stage in Honour where it appears to have got stuck. So I tried the Humility Virtue. Years ago I used the Ogre Lords in Despise and the Arctic Ogre Lords to achieve fame (as did many at the time) so I thought as the Arctic Lord spawns singly and has evil alignment I would try there for the Humility Quest. Well Each kill gave me the message 'you have gained in humility' but after some 20 I only have ONE blue dot. This seems to be yet another unnecessary grind if it is right compared with say Compassion where about 3/4 escorts would advance you. Anyone else tried the quest? and how have you found it?. Is there a better place to gain?. If there isn't I cannot see me bothering.