Any of you melee/archery guys dabble with magic?

[[JD]]

My main is a faction stealth archer. I was playing around with low level spells the other day, and although I have access to JOAT I think a little extra boost could help me be more effective.

Was thinking of having a jewel set made.

Ring/Bracer
+15 Magery
+15 SS
+13 Necro
20 LRC

which I could pair with:

Bloodwood talisman (+5 Necro/+10 SS)

Would give me

+30 Magery
+40 SS
+31 Necro
40 LRC

I can also optionally use these:

Midnight Bracers
+5 Magery Talisman

In Enhanced Client, I can make a macro to quickly equip these items, cast a teleport, wraith form, curse weapon, or any number other of helpful spells, then de-equip and put my eq back on...

Anyone else dabble a bit with magic, either something like this or with scrolls..

This could be really fun to have slightly better than JOAT access to spells.

I was messing around with Wraith form, found it returns a nice amount of mana in return. This coupled with mana leech could help me come closer to chain AIing when taking down a Barracoon or something.

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

Many PvP dexxers carry Teleport & Wall Of Stone scrolls. Though you wouldn't need to on a Stealther because you can Shadow Jump.

You would lose Wraith Form when you take off items and fall below 40 Necro. Plus its drain effect is dependant on Spirit Speak.

 

[Stupid Miner]

Scroll Magery:
20: 3rd Circle 95%
40: 4th 100%, 5th 75%
50: 5th 100% 6th 65%
60: 6th 90% 7th 55%
69.9: 7th Circle 80%, 8th Circle 45%

3rd: Teleport, Poison, Stone Wall
4th: Curse, Mana Drain, Recall
5th: Mind Blast(mage/int), Paralyze, Poison Field, (Incognito)
6th: Invis, Mass Curse, Para Field, Dispel
7th: E-field, Mana Vamp, Gate, Mass Dispel, Polymorph
8th: Rez, EQ, EV, Daemon

None of those spells require Eval to be effective

Made the list for consideration of crossing a 4/6 caster to magery while not losing 4/6 casting
(magery is still capped at 2/6 though)

I was messing around with Wraith form, found it returns a nice amount of mana in return. This coupled with mana leech could help me come closer to chain AIing when taking down a Barracoon or something.

This depends on the size of your opponent's mana pool.

 

[[JD]]

I did some testing and some of what people consider to be common knowledge doesn't exactly work the way they think. Which is a pleasant surprise!

For me since I would temp switch to jewelry just to go wraith, the mana leeched on a coon would just be a bonus. I tested against minotaurs and was pleased at how much mana was coming back. Note I wouldn't rely on it like a sampire would, but it's a nice bonus over and above the mana leech on my weaps.

 

[Stupid Miner]

I did some testing and some of what people consider to be common knowledge doesn't exactly work the way they think. Which is a pleasant surprise!

For me since I would temp switch to jewelry just to go wraith, the mana leeched on a coon would just be a bonus. I tested against minotaurs and was pleased at how much mana was coming back. Note I wouldn't rely on it like a sampire would, but it's a nice bonus over and above the mana leech on my weaps.

I'd never trust what someone tells you (who you don't know). A lot of stuff is just perpetuated inaccurate rumors.
Best way to find out is compare UOGuide to Stratics pages, if they agree it's generally safe to accept, but nothing replaces just testing it out yourself.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

Many PvP dexxers carry Teleport & Wall Of Stone scrolls. Though you wouldn't need to on a Stealther because you can Shadow Jump.

You would lose Wraith Form when you take off items and fall below 40 Necro. Plus its drain effect is dependant on Spirit Speak.

You need 20 Necro to hold Wraith form, which means all you need is to be human.

 

[gjohnson5]

I did some testing and some of what people consider to be common knowledge doesn't exactly work the way they think. Which is a pleasant surprise!

For me since I would temp switch to jewelry just to go wraith, the mana leeched on a coon would just be a bonus. I tested against minotaurs and was pleased at how much mana was coming back. Note I wouldn't rely on it like a sampire would, but it's a nice bonus over and above the mana leech on my weaps.

Yes , wraith form mana leech is pretty good even without a mana leech weapon. curse weapon will life leech quite a bit of life as well, so that owuld be one of the things I would do with the mana.

My current spellweaver template I'm playing with is

120 spell weaving
105 necro ... 120 cap
105 spirit speak ... 120 cap
110 swords ... 120 cap
110 tactics ... 120 cap
100 magic resist
70 meditation

I used
+15 necro ring
+15 spirit speak ring
mark of travesty +10 sword and +10 tactics
This brings necro and melee skills to max


With 40 lmc and 70 med and a mana leech weapon , wraith form almost never runs out of mana. I mana leech to cast nature's fury, spirit speak , curse weapon, attunement, and gift of renewal.

Aside from the obvious inability to recall and effectively cure dp , it's fun. With curse weapon I hardly notice being dp'd anyway.... I just run around with consumables (orange petal , cure pots, refresh pots, recalls etc) I also don't worry about lrc either as necro regs are easily attainable from undead guardians in the tomb of kings.

 

[Lorax_Pacific]

In the beginning almost everyone had magery on their template. But there were no spell channeling weapons then either.

These days I have thought necro had a greater impact to support archery. I haven't used it since I swapped out my poison archer template that didn't have tactics, but had necro. I have a hard time fitting all the skills in I would like with additional magery.

Plus, casting affects the shot so if you are doing magery then you aren't shooting. Some spells have long casting times. Whatever you add needs to compliment your base attack method. How slow would you want to make archery before you switch out archery for something else?

-Lorax

 

[[JD]]

You need 20 Necro to hold Wraith form, which means all you need is to be human.

Exactly... with JOAT I fizzle a bunch so I'm just thinking, a quick swap in of a couple items, cast it, then put my fighting gear on. Only while I'm fighting Coon/etc. And I can always smokebomb and stealth away and then cast it again to get out of the form if needed..

You gotta be polymorphed to fight Coon anyway or you turn into a Rat, so why not be a Wraith and get free mana out of the deal? I see no downsides to this!

The person who mentioned things should complement what you have is right. This would only be used for utility purposes in non emergency situations.

 

[miss uo]

Exactly... with JOAT I fizzle a bunch so I'm just thinking, a quick swap in of a couple items, cast it, then put my fighting gear on. Only while I'm fighting Coon/etc. And I can always smokebomb and stealth away and then cast it again to get out of the form if needed..

You gotta be polymorphed to fight Coon anyway or you turn into a Rat, so why not be a Wraith and get free mana out of the deal? I see no downsides to this!

The person who mentioned things should complement what you have is right. This would only be used for utility purposes in non emergency situations.

Used to do that. IMHO too inconvenient at places like Humility Champ Spawn. Do what floats your boat though. Granted Coon is easy, the others arent so easy when you've only got 1 or 2 other people there... like Rikktor. The champ spawn are lightly populated these days even @ GL where I play

 

[Lord GOD(GOD)]

You need 20 Necro to hold Wraith form, which means all you need is to be human.

Oh yeah, you're quite right sorry, idk why I thought it was 40.

 

[[JD]]

Hey so I took the plunge and did it... my imbuer is kinda low level (88 skill) but I made a ring+bracelet combo with:

+13 Necro
+18 LRC
+10 Spirit Speak

I also have the midnight bracers (+20) and bloodwood(?) talisman with +5 Necro and +10 SS. This gives me 51 Necro, 30 SS.

I made a macro in the EC which swaps these in. It takes a couple tries (due to not enough LRC) but I can switch into wraith. Then I swap back to normal gear and because I have JOAT I stay in wraith form.

Then I attacked the coon, and was getting fairly decent mana back. I was able to AI about twice as much as I usually can. (Granted, my equipment is not that great so I only have 15 LRC and a very small 42 mana pool- will be corrected as soon as I finish building the ultimate suit for myself)...

So for me, this was GREAT. The wraith kept me from going ratform, I got free mana back I wouldn't have otherwise.

As a bonus I can summon a horde minion after the coon is dead to gobble up the gold.

I don't plan on using it for much else. Though switching to the Horrific Beast is kinda fun.

I plan on having a real imbuer add like +15 Chivalry each to them so I fail less on consecrate. Then we'll be rockin'