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An ICQ Conversation about the Recent Duping Spree

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Llewen

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I'm posting this, in part because I'm annoyed, and in part because I thought some of you might find this interesting, and in part because I really want to light a fire under someone's butt about this issue. Every time I get into a discussion about this my estimate of the gold values involved goes up. At first I thought it was just billions. Then I thought it was hundreds of billions, and maybe as much as a trillion or two. My best guess now is that the gold values involved were in the hundreds of trillions, and possibly more than that.

And for those of you who have wondered why I keep harping on scripting in game, and the destruction it has caused, I am pretty certain that the reason why this duping spree was so destructive was not only because it went undetected for so long, but because it was almost certainly scripted, 24/7, for a period of at least a month by more than one of the perpetrators involved.

Llewen, 21/06/2012 4:11:04 PM:
Now, as for duped sots.

Llewen, 4:11:28 PM:
I think that *** dupe was the biggest dupe in the history of the game.

Llewen, 4:12:32 PM:
I think that all of the gains that were made in terms of the economy with regard to the Magincia lottery, and whatever the big thing was before that that removed so much gold from the game, were completely reversed.

Llewen, 4:13:56 PM:
I don't think it was just sot's that were duped, it was anything that could be transformed into something else, and probably even a lot of stuff that couldn't, but especially stuff that can be broken down and changed into something else, that includes sots, cheques, powerscrolls, Abyss resources, etc. etc.

Llewen, 4:15:41 PM:
I think the only people that we've "caught" at it are the people that have been stupid about it, and I think they were just the tip of the iceberg. From what I understand the value of gold has dropped like a stone since the period of time when all that duping was going on, and that's a good indication that the duping that went on was on an absolutely huge scale.

Llewen, 4:18:23 PM:
I'll just say it again, I think this was the biggest, and most destructive duping issue in the history of the game, and all kinds of people profited hugely from it, not just the people that did the duping. I'll go so far as to say that this single duping bug has created entirely new classes of haves and have nots in the game.

Llewen, 4:19:33 PM:
And so far we've seen extremely limited action on it, and I have no confidence whatsoever that they are even going to bring any kind of justice to even 1/10th of 1% of the perpetrators involved.

Llewen, 4:20:58 PM:
I know of one person who was "caught", and from what I hear he had so many duped items on so many different, unlinked accounts, that when he lost an account and billions worth of items and gold, it was barely even a hiccup to him.

[the nameless friend], 4:21:43 PM:
without looking it up how much do you think 5.0 taming sots are selling for?

Llewen, 4:22:12 PM:
I think that if the game is still around 10 years from now, you'll still be able to see the effects of this one duping spree on the game's economy.

Llewen, 4:22:23 PM:
10 mil?

Llewen, 4:22:27 PM:
No idea really.

[the nameless friend], 4:22:32 PM:
13 mil

[the nameless friend], 4:22:37 PM:
13 mil for 5.0 points in taming

Llewen, 4:22:37 PM:
good guess

[the nameless friend], 4:22:47 PM:
that is unbeliavably cheap

Llewen, 4:22:54 PM:
my guess is that before the duping they were worth 10X that much.

[the nameless friend], 4:23:13 PM:
I've made probably 10 tamers maybe a few more

[the nameless friend], 4:23:16 PM:
never used an sot

[the nameless friend], 4:23:22 PM:
I buy an advanced char token

[the nameless friend], 4:23:27 PM:
then ggs it to wherever it needs to be

[the nameless friend], 4:23:33 PM:
but 13 mil for 5.0 points?

[the nameless friend], 4:23:40 PM:
that makes it not worth doing any other way
 

Promathia

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*rolls eye*

As one of the pvpers you have on numerous occasions accused of scripting or somehow intentionally making you lag or something, all I can say is you are ridiculous.
 

Petra Fyde

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If you have any proof of your claims, please send it to Mesanna. It's nothing we can deal with here.
 
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