Not a bad idea, but I don't think mages should be left out. Which is why I suggested JOAT.
I just spent 10mins writing a long response to your comment. I deleted it all knowing I'd just get flammed by all the dex monkeys.
That makes no sense at all.
I'm one of those ppl along with Reason!!!! The temp is actually fun to play tho and no one plays it. It's not as dull and boring as the same old temps that you speak of. It provides some real challenge unlike hitting the easy button and playing the cookie cutter templates. I agree it's time for some diversity and change.
You should probably stop commenting at this point. Without any lmc bonus from combat points, two special moves combined cost 54 mana. That's 18 for the first and 36 for the second. That's simply ridiculous.
Kindrid Spirit was my toons name and I am pretty sure most of ATL will remember extacy.
No, using it 3 seconds after would cost another 18. If you used it in under 3 seconds, it would cost 36.
Bottom Line:
That's what I'm saying, it was great when any template could achieve it easily. It gave the game diversity. Now everyone plays cookie cutter templates, because simply put, if you want to be competitive, you need the 300 combat points and there's only so many skills that attribute toward it and only so many mesh together well. That leaves only a handful of templates.
How do you not understand the balancing issue? It'd make any dexer that much more powerful. Hell just go with a weapon skill/med/focus and you have a ridiculous amount of mana. Yeah, that's fun... All mages would be on continual defense from dexers spamming AI's and running shots. I hardly ever play a mage but I see the obvious flaw with reverting this.
Quiet elf lover =P
You don't even know the stat bonuses given from alchemy. I should just disregard anything you say at this point because I know you're full of it when you can't even construct a convincing story of "what you used to do." You chug agi/str for 36.
If you are using concussion, you're doing it wrong.
I was going to say that
I don't see a good reason why it should be part of the list in any of this. Seems like a personal preference rather than over all practicality.
Why would you need wrestling added? You spam para blow more than 2 times in 3 seconds?
It actually has something to do with combat. The fact it can give you 50% defense from any hit with the proper DCI is a huge part of combat as well as disarm leading to a great offensive advantage has something to do with combat as well. Also parry is part of the list... that pretty much does nothing but block right? Unless you're wearing the Boura's Tail shield then it has a chance to para also.
No offense bud but you really should think about what you say.
How is this not about spamming specials? That's all anyone is talking about. They want to add more to the combat skill list with out thoroughly examining anything so they can have lower mana cost! Less mana used makes more special moves in the end!I was going to say that
Like someone said also, being abing to spam specials isnt the issue here. Hell my mystic never runs out of mana and it really doesnt help him survive. All we are saying is that numerous template went the way of the dodo when JOAT killed them. I know of several people including me that wants to play his tank mage again.
That's because it's combat related. It'd be like saying a dexer should be able to have magery w/o the eval but still have the damage of a normal mage that has eval. Why should a mage have the same mana cost as a dexer that has multiple skills that focus in combat instead of the bare minimum?
Every skill is combat related. You don't make characters (if you PvP) that are not combat oriented. All we are saying is that they completely destroyed several templates when the nerfed JOAT. This is a game of diversity, not cookie cutter templates. If thats what you want go play WOW.
Ok the physical part of combat. Not really sure why people want to play dumb on this topic. You can still make all of those templates. You just don't recieve the BONUS lower mana cost since you aren't as specialized in the physical aspect of UO combat.
I hear what you are saying but IMO they didnt ruin pvp/pvm diversity. They just changed it and made it a bit more difficult. There are still plenty of diverse templates. You just cant spam specials on those templates quite as easily.
Cookie Cutter FTW
It's not really that useless. Conc a mage that just did a half mana dump and they're down to about 40 mana. Only enough to stay on the defensive till it wears off.I could of sworn wrestling was on the list of skills.... *Scratches head*
Oh well, Guess I'll drop wrestle and go bush.
And now I can probably do 5 Specials!!!! BOOYAH!
They nerfed Conc, Its pathetic now..... AI for the win
These ppl that continue to post obviously don't understand the thought I've quoted above. This single problem is why UO pvp is really boring anymore.
It's not really the 300 skill points making things boring then. It's the fact that the new skills that get released out do the old skills. Things need to be added to the old skills like what happened with the bard songs.
Eval is just as worthy as stealth, if not more.