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Ivory Norwind

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Now i've read in UOHerads that "UO Assist and UOAM are sanctioned applications."
This means that now we can't use Uoassist??
And UOAM?
It's not yet upgraded and there is UOCartographer.
No mention of this program.
I've understand well?
Uo assist is forbidden, now?
Sorry but i don't be able to read and understand all that was sayed in that article. ( internet translation are ridicolous :( )
Someone can help me?
In easier words?
The link is http://www.uoherald.com/news/ and the next page
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Petra Fyde

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'Sanctioned' means 'approved', 'permitted'. It is ok to use uoa, uoam and cartographer.
 

Ivory Norwind

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:)
Thanks Petra Fide
Do you know that in Italy there is a similar word, "sanzionare" what means punishment?
For this i didn't understand well.
 

Petra Fyde

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I didn't know, Ivory, but I guessed something like that had happened.
 

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I was about to answer why I believe it was. But that would be against the RoC to discuss. I can hint that it was likely to protect the girl that started the post, but thats all I am going to say.
 

Ivory Norwind

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Only dictionary :(
All translators work worse of my english.
If you know one very good it's ok, let me know, please :)
 

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I will go so far as to confirm your suspicion LC.

I'm fairly sure Ivory isn't the only Italian speaker on the boards, maybe we could find someone who would help her with more tricky translations.

Any volunteers?
 

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Only dictionary :(
All translators work worse of my english.
If you know one very good it's ok, let me know, please :)
Ivory, I want you to know I love reading your posts, in part because it takes great courage to try to function in a language that you are not comfortable with. So just keep posting. You will continue to learn, and others will learn from you, and those of us who can will try to make things easier for you.

And the trolls will be crushed... :stretcher:
 
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The confusion comes because if someone is "sanctioned" they are being penalized for breaking a sanctioned rule.
"Sanction" as a noun is to sanction (or allow) an action.
"Sanction" as a verb is to punish someone for breaking a sanction.
 

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The confusion comes because if someone is "sanctioned" they are being penalized for breaking a sanctioned rule.
"Sanction" as a noun is to sanction (or allow) an action.
"Sanction" as a verb is to punish someone for breaking a sanction.
That can go either way, actually, though using Sanction as a verb for the positive meaning is rarer. And Sanctioned is more of a descriptor, or adjective.

It really comes down to context, and the difference between

"Giving Sanction" (approving via guidelines)

and

"Imposing Sanctions" or "being sanctioned", (punishments resulting from violating the guidelines)

As noted before, context is everything - which is why many online translators fail (like the translator that kept translating a Japanese surname as river forest or forest river, or something like that).
 
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The confusion comes because if someone is "sanctioned" they are being penalized for breaking a sanctioned rule.
"Sanction" as a noun is to sanction (or allow) an action.
"Sanction" as a verb is to punish someone for breaking a sanction.
How odd.

Ivory, I have had good results with the Google translator. I don't use Italian myself but I would be interested to know your experiences.
 
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Actually I have been in meetings where Union and non are discussing company issues with the COO or CEO and the Union folks are "sanctioned" in that they are free to speak without penalty or contract violation.

Sanctions in the governmental sense (like the UN trying to establish sanctions on some country) are definitely in the same vein as Ivory notes - punishment. This example bears out your given definition of sanctioned.

Isn't the English language fun?
 
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Beer_Cayse

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Ivory, I want you to know I love reading your posts, in part because it takes great courage to try to function in a language that you are not comfortable with. So just keep posting. ...
This ... 100% agreed. Keep posting and asking Ivory. We'll help.
 
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This ... 100% agreed. Keep posting and asking Ivory. We'll help.
Agreed. I'll always help if I can. Keep posting! Sometimes I have to read your posts twice, but I do understand.

And yes... American English is horrible to learn if it was not your primary language... (Sometimes even if it is!)

Words that sound/spell the same can have different meanings.
Words that sound the same can be spelled differently with different meanings.
Totally different words can have the same meaning.
Words that are spelled the same can sound different with different meaning.

That's before you get into slang or the other variants which can make it even worse.
 

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I thank all those who have understood and accepted. It 'hard to learn English only from the forum because there are many ways to say that the dictionaries are not quite covered. Now I'm using the google translator and I write what comes out directly on the forum, to show you that it is better that I write directly on its own:)

And now it's me that write. Let me know please if i've made ( the translator) some mistakes. Sometimes i'll use it when there are things too difficult to write or read :thumbup1:
Thanks to all for explanation. I've understood :)
And thank to whom wants help me to learn more english.
Hoping to resolve the problem of the lack of understanding rolleyes:
 
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I thank all those who have understood and accepted. It 'hard to learn English only from the forum because there are many ways to say that the dictionaries are not quite covered. Now I'm using the google translator and I write what comes out directly on the forum, to show you that it is better that I write directly on its own:)

And now it's me that write. Let me know please if i've made ( the translator) some mistakes. Sometimes i'll use it when there are things too difficult to write or read :thumbup1:
Thanks to all for explanation. I've understood :)
And thank to whom wants help me to learn more english.
Hoping to resolve the problem of the lack of understanding rolleyes:
I'm impressed with your efforts, Ivory.

To help a little, if I can, I'll rewrite you're "and now it's me" part. I hope it helps, if only just a little bit.

"And now it's me that is (or "that's") writing. Please let me know if I've made any mistakes. Sometimes I'll use it when things are too difficult to write or read.
Thanks to all for the explanations. I've understood.
And thanks to whomever (or "anyone who") wants to help me learn more English.
I'm hoping to resolve the problem of my lack of understanding.

And actually, you sound quite "American", for the most part. You can see why we can easily understand you.
Well done, Ivory. You're a winner. :)
 

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I think we got it all explained, no further linguistic comments are necessary.
 
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