Try it! I think you'll love it..it's alot of fun.
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120/120 music provoke....
- Thread starter BardMal
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Aboo
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Oh darn now you've given me reason to play with my Spellweaver and possibly add spellweaving to my bard!
Thanks for being so patient with me and answering my questions!
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Aboo
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I have a spellweaver at 102.8 I just never play her. Guess I will now.. . . @Aboo Spellweaving really seems to fit my needs for all the reasons Harlequin posted. Gift of Life is really nice to have around if your pushing your luck and going for some crazy provokes. It's life insurance.
And, of course, she isn't my bard (or at least my favorite one) and she isn't even on the same account as my favorite bard so I can't pass her spellweaving on. But don't you have to do a quest to be able to learn spellweaving? It's been so long since I did it.
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Abigail LeFay
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I remember back around 2000/2001...pre pub 16, I could kill anything in the game...as long as there were two of them
Provo has gotten much more difficult in my opinion...but I enjoy the challenge.
My template is:
115 Archery (working on 120)
110 Tactics (needs to drop to 100)
100 Anatomy
100 Healing
115 Musicianship (working on 120)
115 Provo (working on 120)
60 Chiv
I have pretty good luck with killing Greater Dragons solo. I can provo normal dragons and things onto them, and use EoO and CW, along with a good slayer bow, and they are not that bad.
However, the loot you get from them is barely worth it. I can make more killing Tsuki Wolves in a shorter period of time. But they are fun for the challenge.
Provo has gotten much more difficult in my opinion...but I enjoy the challenge.
My template is:
115 Archery (working on 120)
110 Tactics (needs to drop to 100)
100 Anatomy
100 Healing
115 Musicianship (working on 120)
115 Provo (working on 120)
60 Chiv
I have pretty good luck with killing Greater Dragons solo. I can provo normal dragons and things onto them, and use EoO and CW, along with a good slayer bow, and they are not that bad.
However, the loot you get from them is barely worth it. I can make more killing Tsuki Wolves in a shorter period of time. But they are fun for the challenge.
Yeah you have to visit Heartwood and do the quest for each character you want Spellweaving on. Aeluva in heartwood offers the Patience Quest which is probably easier than Koole the Arcanist in Sanctuary. It's well worth it in my opinion.
Abigail LeFay that makes for a very interesting PvM template. It's crazy some of these templates people dream up...fun stuff.. I love it.
Archer Tamers and Archer Bards seem to have great success in taking down their foes. I might have to start messing around with my soulstones soon.
No problem at all, it was a pleasureOh darn now you've given me reason to play with my Spellweaver and possibly add spellweaving to my bard!
Thanks for being so patient with me and answering my questions!
For max effectiveness, if you have several accounts, train at least 1 on each account. Then you can cast a stronger arcane focus to further boost the effectiveness of your spells.
eg With a lvl 5 focus, word of death starts being able to do it's massive damage when a monster is down to 30% hp. With a level 1 focus, it requires the monster hp to be brought down to 10% first.
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Aboo
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Now you did it again, you confused me. And here I thought I was through bugging you!
I understand how having more spellweavers together can cast a stronger arcane focus, but how exactly does it help to have at least 1 on each account. Do they have to all be logged in at once?
Haha, no worries. I tend to get ahead of myself
If you have multiple accounts, you can reduce the number or guildies/bank sitters you need to form a level 5 focus.
The spellweavers only have to be standing in the circle, but not actively logged in all at once. Meaning you can take advantage of the 5 minute timeout period when you are not in a house or when you have just been in combat.
So, login your spellweavers 1 by 1, go attack/kill something near, then quickly return home to stand in your arcance circle and logout. Because you aggro'd something, that char don't insta logout. Repeat for the rest of your spellweavers and you will have all 5 spellweavers in the circle using only 1 PC
Extra PCs and guildies would make this even simpler.
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Aboo
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Ah I see now! And since I have 4 computers all with access at the same time to the internet, I could actually do this without them having to be the agressor.Haha, no worries. I tend to get ahead of myself
If you have multiple accounts, you can reduce the number or guildies/bank sitters you need to form a level 5 focus.
The spellweavers only have to be standing in the circle, but not actively logged in all at once. Meaning you can take advantage of the 5 minute timeout period when you are not in a house or when you have just been in combat.
So, login your spellweavers 1 by 1, go attack/kill something near, then quickly return home to stand in your arcance circle and logout. Because you aggro'd something, that char don't insta logout. Repeat for the rest of your spellweavers and you will have all 5 spellweavers in the circle using only 1 PC
Extra PCs and guildies would make this even simpler.
One last question, I hope. How long does the arcane circle usually last?
Playing in group I found my tamer/bard can kill any thing i just need to have some one watch my health when the dog doesn't
120 music
120 discord
120 Provo
120 tame
120 lore
120 vet
and use a dog to keep me healed or stone the vet for 120 magery
solo it kind of hard but with group it kicks but.
120 music
120 discord
120 Provo
120 tame
120 lore
120 vet
and use a dog to keep me healed or stone the vet for 120 magery
solo it kind of hard but with group it kicks but.
Lasts around 6 hours
My template is currently:
120 Music
120 Disco
120 Prov
115 Magery
115 Med
115 Eval
Last night took Omar to doom and solo'd the dark father for the first ever time. Took about 45 minutes which I know is a long time for the dark father, but it was alot of fun.
Initially wasn't sure if it would be possible but using discordance, a demon slayer book and lots of charges on iolo's lute he finally went down.
I think thats evidence enough that bards are not underpowered! You just have to play them the right way and they can take down most of the high end stuff.
120 Music
120 Disco
120 Prov
115 Magery
115 Med
115 Eval
Last night took Omar to doom and solo'd the dark father for the first ever time. Took about 45 minutes which I know is a long time for the dark father, but it was alot of fun.
Initially wasn't sure if it would be possible but using discordance, a demon slayer book and lots of charges on iolo's lute he finally went down.
I think thats evidence enough that bards are not underpowered! You just have to play them the right way and they can take down most of the high end stuff.
Congrats! Yup, bards are not underpowered.
It just occurred to me that I have not addressed the OP's issue.
If people remember, alot of these mobs were not bardable once upon a time. Players pleaded for a chance, no matter how small. So they made almost all mobs bardable, by capping the barding difficulty at 160. currently, we still have a pretty decent chance of barding them.
As other posters have mentioned - legendary discord brings their skills down by 28%, making it alot easier to bard them. That, plus slayer instruments will give you a 30-50% chance to provoke them. Just remember that GDs are among the most powerful mobs out there, not your run of the mill dragons. If you have provoked dragons onto GDs before, you will know that GDs are several times stronger than normal dragons. So I believe the barding difficulty is fine.
I always carry 2 in case 1 breaks, for my 0 eval bard, they are very useful! But I use them sparingly due to the moderately high ash requirement. Well, unless hell hounds are around and I can loot them for the ash
They break? lol, didn't realise that, im such a newb bard.I always carry 2 in case 1 breaks, for my 0 eval bard, they are very useful! But I use them sparingly due to the moderately high ash requirement. Well, unless hell hounds are around and I can loot them for the ash
I only started using firehorn on tuesday when i looted it from a swoop. I absolutely love it! Once I find a decent 0/3 ecru I will combine this with expo/conflag pots and my damage output will be even better
Where do you get fire horns, is it only through looting them off corpses?
Yup, have to be looted of corpses. It's a random drop from most mobs (if not all), similar how slayer instruments drop. Even hire-able npcs can drop them when they are dismissed (they leave a backpack behind).They break? lol, didn't realise that, im such a newb bard.
I only started using firehorn on tuesday when i looted it from a swoop. I absolutely love it! Once I find a decent 0/3 ecru I will combine this with expo/conflag pots and my damage output will be even better
Where do you get fire horns, is it only through looting them off corpses?
Cool. I'ma have to start looting them now whenever I can!
My new favourite UO item
What about slayer firehorns? ....
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Aboo
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Thank you yet again.Lasts around 6 hours
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Seismic
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I haven't found firehorns particularly useful 1 vs. 1 on monsters - sure, crowd control they are great.
I think being hell bent on having luck on my suit has really hindered some of the power of my bard. I think I'm going to get off the "luck" bandwagon since it really doesn't seem to net me that much more. Will give a better suit a try in Doom to see if things change or not for drop rate.
I think being hell bent on having luck on my suit has really hindered some of the power of my bard. I think I'm going to get off the "luck" bandwagon since it really doesn't seem to net me that much more. Will give a better suit a try in Doom to see if things change or not for drop rate.
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BardMal
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Disco is much more effective for a tamer or an archer than it is for a provoker.
Maybe people would understand what I'm trying to say if EVERY SKILL had a 10 second delay after any monster was discorded, like provoke does. (*use skill discord* - "all kill" - you must wait before you can use another skill)
By the time my provoker can disco, and then get a provoke off, a tamer or archer will already have the target GD killed. Even with Serado, by the time I lure a hiryu, discord, then provoke, the archers and tamers get the major benifit of the discord, not my provoke actions.
The point of this thread is about how lame provokers have been treated.
Say what you want about this "champion" or that "peerless", a provoker bard has been reduced to an intermediary spawn level char.
Every positive response here validates that a provoker bard is obviously useless without 120 disco - and with the timer, 120 disco favors other skills over that of provoke.
I don't want to run around discording imps on my legendary bard. Should I just power cheat up 120 disco so I can go farm leather for my wife's BODs. For me this cheapens a char I spent two years of daily playing to get to GM provoke.
Maybe I should just wedge a macro key down and power up a disco archer. *smirk*
A greater dragon is not a peerless, or a champion - they don't have equivalent loot, and don't have equivalent difficulty for archers or tamers. It is not a fair representation to compare the skill level required for a provoker to take down a GD to that of a champion or peerless. 10 arrows (I've seen it done with less) can take down a GD; what champ or peerless goes down with 10 arrows?
I used to be able to go farm leather for my wife's tailors in a few hours every weekend on my bard. About 6 hours a weekend is what it took.
On my bard, that's not realistically possible for barbed leather anymore.
On my archer, on my tamer, heck, my pally with a dragon cleaver is more efficient farming barbed leather than my bard.
Maybe people would understand what I'm trying to say if EVERY SKILL had a 10 second delay after any monster was discorded, like provoke does. (*use skill discord* - "all kill" - you must wait before you can use another skill)
By the time my provoker can disco, and then get a provoke off, a tamer or archer will already have the target GD killed. Even with Serado, by the time I lure a hiryu, discord, then provoke, the archers and tamers get the major benifit of the discord, not my provoke actions.
The point of this thread is about how lame provokers have been treated.
Say what you want about this "champion" or that "peerless", a provoker bard has been reduced to an intermediary spawn level char.
Every positive response here validates that a provoker bard is obviously useless without 120 disco - and with the timer, 120 disco favors other skills over that of provoke.
I don't want to run around discording imps on my legendary bard. Should I just power cheat up 120 disco so I can go farm leather for my wife's BODs. For me this cheapens a char I spent two years of daily playing to get to GM provoke.
Maybe I should just wedge a macro key down and power up a disco archer. *smirk*
A greater dragon is not a peerless, or a champion - they don't have equivalent loot, and don't have equivalent difficulty for archers or tamers. It is not a fair representation to compare the skill level required for a provoker to take down a GD to that of a champion or peerless. 10 arrows (I've seen it done with less) can take down a GD; what champ or peerless goes down with 10 arrows?
I used to be able to go farm leather for my wife's tailors in a few hours every weekend on my bard. About 6 hours a weekend is what it took.
On my bard, that's not realistically possible for barbed leather anymore.
On my archer, on my tamer, heck, my pally with a dragon cleaver is more efficient farming barbed leather than my bard.
I think you have to look at it another way. Your bard isn't going to be your most efficient character for everything. Leather collection calls for a different type of character IMO.
The more I use my bard the more i'm loving it and I think that in many situations, he is immensely powerful.
Here's an example: I just gathered 1k demon bones and summoned the bone demon in doom. I dropped evs and lured the demon upward towards where you get some of the more menacing spawn (rotting corpses, lich lords...etc), within seconds I had two evs and a rotting corpse attacking the demon. I got the demon disco'd and as more spawn arrived, the mobs were provoked onto him.
Within less than 5 minutes the demon was dead. I didn't get scratched during this process.
I used to solo the Bone Demon with my dread horn solo'ing sampire last year and believe me, it was a hell of a lot rougher than this and if things got complicated, the battle could drag on for quite a while.
My point is, like every character template, there are strengths and weaknesses. Your bard wont be the best possible template in every single situation. Some situations call for a warrior or a tamer or an archer or whatever.
Bards are most definitely not underpowered
The more I use my bard the more i'm loving it and I think that in many situations, he is immensely powerful.
Here's an example: I just gathered 1k demon bones and summoned the bone demon in doom. I dropped evs and lured the demon upward towards where you get some of the more menacing spawn (rotting corpses, lich lords...etc), within seconds I had two evs and a rotting corpse attacking the demon. I got the demon disco'd and as more spawn arrived, the mobs were provoked onto him.
Within less than 5 minutes the demon was dead. I didn't get scratched during this process.
I used to solo the Bone Demon with my dread horn solo'ing sampire last year and believe me, it was a hell of a lot rougher than this and if things got complicated, the battle could drag on for quite a while.
My point is, like every character template, there are strengths and weaknesses. Your bard wont be the best possible template in every single situation. Some situations call for a warrior or a tamer or an archer or whatever.
Bards are most definitely not underpowered
Just to clarify, when I said 30%-50% to provoke GDs against each other earlier: you have at least a 20% chance to succeed without using discord (120 provoke and using slayer instruments). A 1 in 5 chance to provoke 2 GDs against each other. That's pretty decent considering you are hunting one of the most powerful mobs around.
If you discord, your provocation chance may increase another 20%-30% (could possibly be even more) depending on the GD's stats when spawned.
Oh, you don't need to discord imps. The barding difficulty is based on the stats and skills of the mob. So mobs with higher health/mana/dex/skills will be more difficult to bard. GDs have extremely high health when wild, between 1 to 2 thousand, which by itself would boost the barding difficulting several magnitudes...
See
http://uo.stratics.com/content/skills/bardingdifficulty.php
Just to check, are you legendary or GM? Even at GM provoke, without discording and using NPC-bought music instruments with no bonus, you have a 100% chance to provoke imps. But you will definitely have probs with GDs.
Yes, GDs are not peerless, if they were, the effects of legendary discord would be capped at 5% instead of 28%. Although the barding difficulty is still capped at the same level (160), even if the peerless has 20 times the HP of a GD.
From the current way barding difficulty is calculated, they can only reduce the barding difficulty if the GD's stats are reduced.
Different templates are more suited to some tasks than others.
As you said, your pally is able to farm GDs more efficiently. Mainly because your pally has a substantially higher DPS compared to a GD attacking another GD.
However, if we look at Doom, the pally would not be able to solo the DF. That's where your provoke bard shines
Even sammies have a harder time soloing the DF. Sammies hit the DF once or twice a sec, compared to your 10+ provoked rotting corpse/lich lords hitting the DF 10+ times a sec. Your DPS will actually be higher than a sammy.If you enjoy farming barbed hides with you bard, you might want to try the 2 shadow wyrms on Destard lvl 2. 90% chance of success with 120 provoke and slayer instruments. Less people to fight over them too, coz other templates can't deal as well with the other spawn. Your bard will shine there too.
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BardMal
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I farmed SWs for a long time. It's not really feasible anymore, beyond about 3 SWs, they animate too many skelly dragons, once they have SW corpses to work with. Level 2 Destard, I farm the horned, but the SWs aren't worth the trouble and insurance costs, and that is with 2 Legendary provokers working together. Give them a wide birth, or drown in animates.
A greater dragon kills a regular dragon before the skill timer wears off.
After over 20 million lost in insurance in Doom, and no artifacts at all, I don't go there anymore. I am willing to ghost along and follow to test your theory on barding onto the DF.
A ten second skill timer, 41% chance RC onto DF, 60% LL onto DF, and a DF kills either on in two hits. 10 of either one of these is hardly realistic on a DF. Comparing any Legendary dexers damage here to provokes is fantasy, honestly bro. Watch the little red 1 damage points go up and get depressed along with me.
I will make a char and follow you on your shard for an education, if you are willing to show me how your provoker rules DFs. Teach me this please.
A provoker/bard is useless in felluca without bodyguards or archery. Without room for resist or a mele defense, they might as well be miners against a pk.
In a tram spawn, tamers and archers kill the champs, or any spawn lured to provoke onto the champs before a provoker can get enough damage for anything more than minimal looting rights. Dreadhorn? - provokers are good for getting keys, then log them off and get the tamer for the island trip. Same thing with Mel, the Gauntlet in Doom, Travesty. Proxomus? The only good champ for a provoker is Shimmering, and that isn't for looting rights or damge, it's to control the brutes.
Building disco sux. At least when I was building provoke I could go hunt anything, I could "play UO". But difficulty based skill gains in barding make building bards pathetically boring.
Work my disco up from 30 doing what, if not imps, cattle?
My Legendary provoker is good for one thing, lesser hiryus onto rev lions. Other wise he is just a mage missing defensive skills, best suited to intermediate spawn levels.
All I'm saying is this - a Provoker char which requires 2 X 20+ skill scrolls to make feasible deserves more than intermediate level content and reward. And what led to this is the realization was that I can't use my favorite play style to resupply my wife's tailoring habit and barbed leather supply. Heck, since her tailoring friend died irl, why should we even bother doing BoDs or farming leather for them anyway, if all it's going to do is remind me of how little power I have, and how I'm now barely scrapping by when 5 years ago I was flourishing in a bustling economy.
The more I think about what these developers did to my favorite bard, the less I feel like logging on, and the more I think about canceling my accounts and going back to the gym.
A greater dragon kills a regular dragon before the skill timer wears off.
After over 20 million lost in insurance in Doom, and no artifacts at all, I don't go there anymore. I am willing to ghost along and follow to test your theory on barding onto the DF.
A ten second skill timer, 41% chance RC onto DF, 60% LL onto DF, and a DF kills either on in two hits. 10 of either one of these is hardly realistic on a DF. Comparing any Legendary dexers damage here to provokes is fantasy, honestly bro. Watch the little red 1 damage points go up and get depressed along with me.
I will make a char and follow you on your shard for an education, if you are willing to show me how your provoker rules DFs. Teach me this please.
A provoker/bard is useless in felluca without bodyguards or archery. Without room for resist or a mele defense, they might as well be miners against a pk.
In a tram spawn, tamers and archers kill the champs, or any spawn lured to provoke onto the champs before a provoker can get enough damage for anything more than minimal looting rights. Dreadhorn? - provokers are good for getting keys, then log them off and get the tamer for the island trip. Same thing with Mel, the Gauntlet in Doom, Travesty. Proxomus? The only good champ for a provoker is Shimmering, and that isn't for looting rights or damge, it's to control the brutes.
Building disco sux. At least when I was building provoke I could go hunt anything, I could "play UO". But difficulty based skill gains in barding make building bards pathetically boring.
Work my disco up from 30 doing what, if not imps, cattle?
My Legendary provoker is good for one thing, lesser hiryus onto rev lions. Other wise he is just a mage missing defensive skills, best suited to intermediate spawn levels.
All I'm saying is this - a Provoker char which requires 2 X 20+ skill scrolls to make feasible deserves more than intermediate level content and reward. And what led to this is the realization was that I can't use my favorite play style to resupply my wife's tailoring habit and barbed leather supply. Heck, since her tailoring friend died irl, why should we even bother doing BoDs or farming leather for them anyway, if all it's going to do is remind me of how little power I have, and how I'm now barely scrapping by when 5 years ago I was flourishing in a bustling economy.
The more I think about what these developers did to my favorite bard, the less I feel like logging on, and the more I think about canceling my accounts and going back to the gym.
This is incorrect. A Dark Father can not two-hit kill a Rotting Corpse.
My bard has soloed Dark Fathers using Rotting Corpses and Lich Lords and alot of spells. Its actually quite a fun challenge.
120 Magery
120 Meditation
120 Evaluating Intelligence
120 Resisting Spells
120 Music
120 Provocation
I used exceptional instruments and a Demon Slayer spellbook. At first I died alot. Now its extremely rare to even be in danger there.
If I can do it then so can you, just keep at it.
Have you tried after they implemented the new Doom system where you will accumulate points? I still get an average of 1 arty every 2 times I go to Doom.
For the ultimate soloing of 2 DFs with a bard, take a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJIk9M35as
True, a bard is definitely not built for PvP, they are PvM chracters.
You are right about the peerless. Provokers aren't suited for going up against the peerless since only shimmering keeps respawning minions and they get trashed pretty easily. The other peerless don't spawn enough minions to for provokers to use.
Ah, you are talking about training. I thought you were talking about provoking imps. Ok, to train discord, use non-aggro mobs. Cattle won't give you much gains, buy to 30s and start with bears and work you way up. Once you hit 90s, start on cu sidhes. Once the gains slow down, train them up so that their skills and barding difficulty goes up as well. Then resume your disco training. But it's going to take a while. Use the skill delay timer to invis yourself to break LOS and the discord effect.
Don't be disheartened. Give doom a try again. Alternatively, add discord, maybe you'll love it once you see what it can do. I know I have.
Besides my 4x legendary bard, for general mobs where pets are more useful, I also have a peace/provoke tamer. I team up with my wife, who uses a peace/discord tamer. That way, we are able to use peace/provo/discord as the situation warrants. Having a more diverse range of skills at your command is quite fulfilling.
Provocation while not the king of the bard skills anymore, is still the ultimate skill for crowd control. Like during the current town invasions. In fact, during the previous repond invasion, it was the only way I could kill the generals.
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BardMal
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In that video:
What is that big T. K. O. that pops across his screen?
I don't see him do any discording or failing provokes at all.
In spite of the lag, he sure does cast fast. Is the lag just from the video program?
What is that big T. K. O. that pops across his screen?
I don't see him do any discording or failing provokes at all.
In spite of the lag, he sure does cast fast. Is the lag just from the video program?
The TKO was manually added by him in post production editing, like subtitles. It's not part of the original video capture. TKO means Technical.Knock.Out in boxing terms - ie if you TKO your opponent, you win.
He added the letters TKO to stress as each DF was killed.
No discord used, just provoke. He casted a couple of evs to engage 1 DF, then provokes the 2nd DF to attack the evs. This is to bring them close together. DFs casts wither, if 1 DF's wither damages the 2nd, they will aggro each other.
From then on, he has all the time in the world to provoke their minions onto the DFs.
Regarding the jerkiness of the video, it's actually not lag. Either the video capture software he used was configured to skip frames, or he just used a video editing software to skip alternate frames. Reduces the size of the file substantially.
Mmmm this is an interesting video.
I've only had a stealth viewing as i'm at work but what I noticed was that he doesn't seem to be provoking the spawn on to the Dark Fathers. The only way he uses provoke is when he provokes undead spawn onto other undead spawn. Then at the very end when the 2nd DF is redlined, he provokes some spawn onto it then.
I noticed that when each DF died he didn't get the fame or karma gain message which to me would suggest he maybe didn't get credit for the kills as he didn't deal significant damage to either?
I've only had a stealth viewing as i'm at work but what I noticed was that he doesn't seem to be provoking the spawn on to the Dark Fathers. The only way he uses provoke is when he provokes undead spawn onto other undead spawn. Then at the very end when the 2nd DF is redlined, he provokes some spawn onto it then.
I noticed that when each DF died he didn't get the fame or karma gain message which to me would suggest he maybe didn't get credit for the kills as he didn't deal significant damage to either?
Yup, he kept himself invis'd as much sas possible when the 2 DFs were fighting each other. I suspect he didn't deal with the spawn so that they will chase the other players away and allow him to prove that he can solo the DFs.
If he had provoked the lesser spawn onto the DFs and thrown in a couple of EVs, it would have gone faster too.
He only started to provoke the minions onto the remaining DF after the first was dead. 1 correction to my earlier statement on discord, I just realized that while he did not use discord during the DFs' duel, he did use discord on the remaining DF at the end to make things easier. It's actually not required since he's a spellweaver and was WoD'g the DF then invis'g himself to break aggro. But hey, since he's got discord, might as well use it.
Because the DFs did the bulk of the damage to each other, he won't get fame. However, since he did most of the damage as a player (EV damage on the first, WoD on the 2nd, plus no one else attacked either of the DFs), he will get full looting rights and will be at the top (well the only one heh) of the arty drop eligibility list.
In theory, you can also use a tamer and get your pet to aggro both the DFs to bring them together and set off the wither war. But your pet will die alot. It's easiest to do this with a provoke bard and EVs.
Awesome stuff, I knew he would get the looting rights regardless but wasn't sure if he would be on the arty point list for that. Gonna need to try this out soon!
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BardMal
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According to his post, he doesn't have disco.
Magery, Med, music, provoke, resist, and spell weaving is the template he posted.
From the fame/karma point - if he doesn't solo, he won't get any credit?
This doesn't solve my leather farming challenges, but it does open up possibilities for keeping my bard.
Magery, Med, music, provoke, resist, and spell weaving is the template he posted.
From the fame/karma point - if he doesn't solo, he won't get any credit?
This doesn't solve my leather farming challenges, but it does open up possibilities for keeping my bard.
Regarding fame/karma - He didn't do enough damage to warrant a fame/karma credit. The damage he did was from the EV and for WoD'g when the 2nd DF was redlined.
If more people join in, then you can safely start provoking the RC and LL onto the DF at your leisure. Most people will be glad that there are bards around. Just be prepared to invis if you fail.
I am glad that you are keeping your bard!
If you can, try out discord as well, you can always stone it if it doesn't suit your style of playing.For the most effective leather collection in destard, stick with your warrior.
Have fun!