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Moldering Ursine

Mark Bradburn

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i got one training it up now, looks good. I opened it on Tokuno Islands just in case...
UO CAH says no overcapped skills but mine jumped to 102.8 parry on 100 wrestling..

Am going to give it AI and Bushido, so gets Whirlwind for free and hopefully with the Life Leech it acts like a mini Sampire we shall see. It should do a big leech on the single whirlwind attack?

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@Mark Bradburn Life Leech on pets does not work that way.

Life Leech (Mana Cost 5)Trains the creature in the Life Leech special ability, causing the creature to leech life from incoming damage.

Some like it on Rams. That is not the value in this pet. The high intensity is.

AI/Bushido will make a low damage output tank pet.

Copy it to TC and try some builds before you do that.
 

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It certainly is a good MOUNTABLE pet. These are the "competitors" (mountable + 5 slot) according to uo-cah:


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While I think training intensity is ok, I am not sure about the elemental damage spread. It is actually worse than the CU's (50 cold + 50 energy) because it got physical.

I also think that life leech is a disadvantage because it is draining mana so fast. I built a few "tanking" templates on TC (though not skilling them up to 120) such as LL only, LL + feint, LL + AI, but wasn't too impressed as I had to keep it healing nevertheless.

It might also be a good pet for pirate hunting, e.g. teleporting over and self healing? I am not sure where exactly its place is. I have never built a necro pet, so maybe that is something to look into.
 
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Someone suggested fww chiv ai ?
Life leech is a Special Ability so I don't think you can do that. It's not going to be able to get as many options in builds as a Triton. But, you can get an active and passive magic.
 

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necro pet
From the info I have, that would cost 1500 points plus points for scrolls.. You would have very little added HP. Necro does not work well because the spells are not working properly. Same 1500 for Necro mage and more scrolls..
 

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Life Leech (Mana Cost 5)Trains the creature in the Life Leech special ability, causing the creature to leech life from incoming damage.
I just tested it on an old grizzled mare with LL. If it is just standing still taking damage, it is not healing or losing mana. If it attacks, LL works and it is also losing mana if it is successfully landing a hit. I think they must have changed something. LL does not seem to be based on incoming but outgoing damage, or am I missing here something?
 
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I just tested it on an old grizzled mare with LL. If it is just standing still taking damage, it is not healing or losing mana. If it attacks, LL works and it is also losing mana if it is successfully landing a hit. I think they must have changed something. LL does not seem to be based on incoming but outgoing damage, or am I missing here something?
I have never been a fan of Life Leech on Rams. I never see the HP increase on mine without doing it myself.
@PlayerSkillFTW can tell us about it.
 

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This thing is a beast. It's basically a pet-vampire. Look at this possibility.
That's what I mean the intensity is the value of this pet. Closest thing is a 2 slot Reptalon, I'm not sure why players don't use Reptalons much, maybe the dragon breath.
 

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It certainly is a good MOUNTABLE pet. These are the "competitors" (mountable + 5 slot) according to uo-cah:


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While I think training intensity is ok, I am not sure about the elemental damage spread. It is actually worse than the CU's (50 cold + 50 energy) because it got physical.

I also think that life leech is a disadvantage because it is draining mana so fast. I built a few "tanking" templates on TC (though not skilling them up to 120) such as LL only, LL + feint, LL + AI, but wasn't too impressed as I had to keep it healing nevertheless.

It might also be a good pet for pirate hunting, e.g. teleporting over and self healing? I am not sure where exactly its place is. I have never built a necro pet, so maybe that is something to look into.
I never knew the Unicorns could be trained to five slot!
 

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I never knew the Unicorns could be trained to five slot!
They can but AI/chiv is a tight squeeze.

 

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Sorry wrong pet type above. Unicorns are similar, I use Kirins.
 

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Am going to give it AI and Bushido, so gets Whirlwind for free and hopefully with the Life Leech it acts like a mini Sampire we shall see. It should do a big leech on the single whirlwind attack?

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You actually don't want Whirlwind on them. Every time Life Leech procs, it consumes 5 Mana. So WWing a bunch of mobs, would immediately devour a ton of Mana. Whirlwind is highly unreliable as well, the pet can be completely surrounded by mobs, and never use Whirlwind Attack. They use it more often in single target, than in AoE situations :/

@Mark Bradburn Life Leech on pets does not work that way.

Life Leech (Mana Cost 5)Trains the creature in the Life Leech special ability, causing the creature to leech life from incoming damage.

Some like it on Rams. That is not the value in this pet. The high intensity is.

AI/Bushido will make a low damage output tank pet.
Life Leech procs on outgoing damage, not incoming. The harder the pet hits, the more damage they heal when Life Leech procs. Life Leech only procs on melee hits too, and doesn't proc off of Frenzied Whirlwind ticks (Frenzied Whirlwind isn't affected by modifiers like EoO, Divine Fury, or Con Wep either). The biggest weaknesses of Life Leech healing for pets, is A) mobs that are immune to Life Leech, B) mobs that have extremely high Wrest/Parry skill, and so are difficult to land hits on, and C) taking so much damage that their Stamina drops, slowing down their swing speed and therefore self healing.

Here's how i built my Moldering Ursine. Saved Planner | uo-cah.com
Chiv+AI, for maximum single target damage output for his Life Leech to scale with. I gave him 30 Stamina Regen to keep him swinging fast even when taking heavy damage, due to his self healing scaling with his damage output. Moldering Ursines are basically superior to Ossein Rams, not only do they have higher Intensity, but they're even mountable.

The true secret power of Life Leech pets, is the fact that their Life Leech can still heal at full effectiveness through Combat Training: Berserk. Upon reaching half health, Berserk causes the pet to gain a ton of damage output, and damage resistance, but at the cost of severely reducing all incoming heals (other than Life Leech for pets). It's basically a "Kamikaze" mode for any other pet, they'll eventually die, but dish out a ****ton of damage during it. Life Leech pets can survive while Berserk, and dish out a ton of damage. For example, here's a screen of my 120 Chiv+AI Ossein Ram dealing a 436 damage AI during EoO while Berserk (that same hit, took the Ram from half health to full). I've heard of others saying they've seen 500+. That Ossein Ram was at GM Tactics, and didn't have the TP for anything higher. Moldering Ursines do have enough TP for full 120s, and so can hit even harder when Berserk, and have higher HP.
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Thoughts on skipping the HPR entirely because of the LL? Would be able to add 720 pts to mana with those 360 pts of HPR.
Either do that on TC or save those points and fight difficult things and see what happens. Rams have been out for years, how many Rams do you see while playing?
 

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Either do that on TC or save those points and fight difficult things and see what happens. Rams have been out for years, how many Rams do you see while playing?
Ossein Rams are still very much flying under the radar. Most people are unaware of how powerful they can be. Most people don't even know what Berserk does, let alone the intricacies and interactions of it. Plus, it takes a high end Ossein Ram to really get a lot of the bells & whistles, and even then they still can't fully 120 everything.
Hell, most people still use Cu Sidhes against literally everything, even when there's far better pets for what they're specifically hunting.
 

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Either do that on TC or save those points and fight difficult things and see what happens. Rams have been out for years, how many Rams do you see while playing?
ended up going chiv ai LL on mine with 10 hpr and 10 sr 30 mr. 800 hps and 990 something mana all 120s
 

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ended up going chiv ai LL on mine with 10 hpr and 10 sr 30 mr. 800 hps and 990 something mana all 120s
Yup. The most basic build will probably be the best. I'll find out how squishy these are soon. Probably a great thing you put the SR to 10.

I'll post some other build possibilities. We need 2 of these per tamer. :)
 
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