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[General] Large BODs or small BODs?

Theron

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With this new point system in place is it worth it to make large BODs for the rewards anymore?
OR is it better to do small BODS for points and then get rewards from the points?
 

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I think you got it backwards, if you are going for points.

Smalls are near-worthless for banking points, though if you're just trying to get rid of old BODs for new ones, that's better than many of the rewards (I usually turn in a bunch of 10 point smalls for the 250-use items to top off my crafting machines that hold 5000 charges)
Iron weapon/cloth/wood Large BODs, for points, are best used for banking. Similar non-bribeable-to-better-material LBODs (cooking, alchemy, inscription) serve the same for the other skills, though with them the highest end rewards are FAR more easily gotten with one type of high end LBOD, than a thousand smalls' points.
If BODs are bribeable to special materials, the smalls and larges are usually best used bribed up and turned in for rewards, unless their highest value after bribes is still too low for a good reward.
Smalls banked for points are worth 2% of point value. That means a small 10 count that is not exceptional is worth 0.2 points. That's FIVE BODS PER ONE POINT.
Larges banked for points are worth 20% of point value. Once you get past base materials, the better larges are worth FAR more turned in for rewards.

So, banking 6 small horned ex 20 count BODs would be worth 30 points banked. (250*0.02 = FIVE points each, times 6)
Turning in the large 6-part BOD you would fill with them would be a barbed kit worth 700 points. (And if you were crazy enough to bank it, be worth 140 points). A 4-part or 5-part LBOD would be good for a Horned kit or 120 PS.

For Smith and Tinker BODs, some colored smalls can be worth up to 800 points (20 count is 50, +200 for Ex, +550 for Valorite). That's only 16 points each banked. Stuff that's not capable of being bribed to color is best turned in for banked points and new BODs, especially if large, unless you can get a POF or gold smelting talisman from the large, or really, REALLY need a low-end hammer or mining tools. The best Master Craftsman Talisman in that point range are the ones with 25 charges, and those almost never have a decent crafting bonus associated with it.

You can get rewards up the level of a 115 PS/Bronze Hammer for the smith 800 point ones (or just bribe them up to 450-475 to get POF). But, with some of them, there is not a large, so that's your choice. A pittance banked, or a low-to-mid range runic tool for smith.
Tinker rewards are similarly sparse (400 for the Gold smelting talisman, which is useful when spending an hour or two in the next 24 hours farming gold eles in Blackthorn's; talismans up to Verite that are less useful unless you haul thousands of ore home to smelt later, even less useful ore maps, and the 700 point keg for combining up to 25 POF vials). And, of course, the same issue with whether BODs are around for them. The gemmed jewelry larges are only worth up to 250 points (no exceptional, no colored metal), and are the ones best used for banking points.

Bows: Beware that some larges are bugged (I've got a Frostwood Crossbow LBOD that won't accept the last BOD - it's the LBOD, because I've tried multiple smalls from over a year on it). The ones that require the ML gems are not worth the expense - that's smalls AND larges.

Carpentry, Alchemy, Cooking, Inscription:
  • If filling wouldn't be worth the cost, toss it to the floor.
  • If it is a small that doesn't fit a large, fill it*, bank its near-worthless point value, and pull a new BOD as a replacement. (don't forget to always get all your BODs due before banking, the immediately claim the replacement BOD after each banking).
  • If it fits a large, save it for the large (unless you already have too many, then treat as above); bribe up as needed for your large.
  • If it's a large, bribe it up to 20 Count (and exceptional, if possible). Carpentry MIGHT be bribeable to colored wood; if so, bribe it to the wood point value that you feel comfortable with (or the point level of the reward you want)
  • If the large has a reward you want, turn in for the reward. Otherwise bank it.
*if a carpentry small is potentially colored but doesn't fit a large, you're better off bribing it up to a color you have excess wood for. Maybe it will become valuable enough to be worth a mid-level reward, or at least be worth multiple points instead of a fraction of a point.
 
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Theron

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Thanks, I guess to get runic hammers and other rewards it's still better to fill them up.

The point system seems good to get something out of the useless BODs.
 
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